Most ideal bodyframe for man (just have wide clavicles and ribcage theory)

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As we know bones play huge role in facial aesthetics, but the same holds truth for the body as well.

Just look at Steve Reeves bodyframe when he was 15.


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In my opinion he has the ideal bodyframe for a male, even though in this picture he doesn't have a huge amount of muscle mass,
his naturally wide frame makes him look big. So if you have good bone structure you don`t need that muscle to look good.

Steve Reeves in motion:

 

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you can't have a wide rib cage and clavicles without your entire body being wide as well, bodies aren't custom made.

Steve Reeves just focused on training his upper part the most that's why it looks wider than the rest.
 
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you can't have a wide rib cage and clavicles without your entire body being wide as well
That's what I was talking about, but with a bad bodyframe no amount of training the upper body can give you that wide of a look that Steve has, you are ultimately pretty much limited to the width and the proportions of your bones.
Its about having wide clavicles and ribcage realitive to your wiast and hips.
Just look at this framecel for example:

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That's what I was talking about, but with a bad bodyframe no amount of training the upper body can give you that wide of a look that Steve has, you are ultimately pretty much limited to the width and the proportions of your bones.
Its about having wide clavicles and ribcage realitive to your wiast and hips.
Just look at this framecel for example:

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Twinks me
 

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That's what I was talking about, but with a bad bodyframe no amount of training the upper body can give you that wide of a look that Steve has, you are ultimately pretty much limited to the width and the proportions of your bones.
Its about having wide clavicles and ribcage realitive to your wiast and hips.
Just look at this framecel for example:

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JEEESUS CHRIST
 

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That's what I was talking about, but with a bad bodyframe no amount of training the upper body can give you that wide of a look that Steve has, you are ultimately pretty much limited to the width and the proportions of your bones.
Its about having wide clavicles and ribcage realitive to your wiast and hips.
Just look at this framecel for example:

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Dear lord Jesus Christ... thank you for my naturally 19 inch Bidelt and 12 inch waist...
 

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Out fucking standing work OP. I was going to post about the same thing actually. A big frame can give the illusion of muscle even in clothes. Gymcelling in some ways is just a way of frauding frame.
Moral of the story: If your going to get on HGH it if your growing already, maximise test and lower estrogen. Test tells the body to widen clavicles during growth whereas estrogen tells the body to widen hips. Obviously as a male the former is preferred.
 

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Out fucking standing work OP. I was going to post about the same thing actually. A big frame can give the illusion of muscle even in clothes. Gymcelling in some ways is just a way of frauding frame.
Moral of the story: If your going to get on HGH it if your growing already, maximise test and lower estrogen. Test tells the body to widen clavicles during growth whereas estrogen tells the body to widen hips. Obviously as a male the former is preferred.
Might go on ai inhib for this reason
 

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Out fucking standing work OP. I was going to post about the same thing actually. A big frame can give the illusion of muscle even in clothes. Gymcelling in some ways is just a way of frauding frame.
Yeah exactly

Me 6.5 months ago (with a pump jfl)

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Me the other day (no pump)
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subhuman lighting but you can still see shoulder to waist ratio.

I look way better in shirts. Just got on cycle recently too, in another 2 months I'll look completely different again.
 

KrissKross

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Yeah exactly

Me 6.5 months ago (with a pump jfl)

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Me the other day (no pump)
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subhuman lighting but you can still see shoulder to waist ratio.

I look way better in shirts. Just got on cycle recently too, in another 2 months I'll look completely different again.
Is that actual frame change or muscle mass giving the illusion? Looks good either way
 

SomethingOff

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That's what I was talking about, but with a bad bodyframe no amount of training the upper body can give you that wide of a look that Steve has, you are ultimately pretty much limited to the width and the proportions of your bones.
Its about having wide clavicles and ribcage realitive to your wiast and hips.
Just look at this framecel for example:

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Out fucking standing work OP. I was going to post about the same thing actually. A big frame can give the illusion of muscle even in clothes. Gymcelling in some ways is just a way of frauding frame.
Moral of the story: If your going to get on HGH it if your growing already, maximise test and lower estrogen. Test tells the body to widen clavicles during growth whereas estrogen tells the body to widen hips. Obviously as a male the former is preferred.
It´s over if you don´t fill out your clothes like this:

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Clavicles can growth up to 25 years, so HGH could do wonders even if you older.
There must be a way to affect your clavicles trough wolff's law, like mewing for the shoulder girdle.
Its obvious tbh, what isnt obvious is whats better to have - long or short torso?
I would say on the shorter side is ideal, as it gives the upper body a wider appearance and an overall better look:

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Curious0

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Yeah exactly

Me 6.5 months ago (with a pump jfl)

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Me the other day (no pump)
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subhuman lighting but you can still see shoulder to waist ratio.

I look way better in shirts. Just got on cycle recently too, in another 2 months I'll look completely different again.
Holy shit, that's impressive.
How long would it take to achieve such an improvement naturally?
 

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That's what I was talking about, but with a bad bodyframe no amount of training the upper body can give you that wide of a look that Steve has, you are ultimately pretty much limited to the width and the proportions of your bones.
Its about having wide clavicles and ribcage realitive to your wiast and hips.
Just look at this framecel for example:

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Luckily these framecels are rare, and most people have avg body proportions
 

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you can't have a wide rib cage and clavicles without your entire body being wide as well, bodies aren't custom made.

Steve Reeves just focused on training his upper part the most that's why it looks wider than the rest.
Thats pretty good method, only doing upper body and ignoring legs will give you a wider look
 

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That's what I was talking about, but with a bad bodyframe no amount of training the upper body can give you that wide of a look that Steve has, you are ultimately pretty much limited to the width and the proportions of your bones.
Its about having wide clavicles and ribcage realitive to your wiast and hips.
Just look at this framecel for example:

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yeah but who actually has a frame like that?
As we know bones play huge role in facial aesthetics, but the same holds truth for the body as well.

Just look at Steve Reeves bodyframe when he was 15.


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In my opinion he has the ideal bodyframe for a male, even though in this picture he doesn't have a huge amount of muscle mass,
his naturally wide frame makes him look big. So if you have good bone structure you don`t need that muscle to look good.

Steve Reeves in motion:

also cringing to the bone at that video, both voicefrauding
 
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I literally have similar frame as him with 21" bidelt BUT it also comes with wide hips which is inevitable, + wide hips are a good thing and look robust, jfl if you think its about having skinny legs and wide shoulders instead of Wide everything (except waist)
 

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SayNoToRotting

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I literally have similar frame as him with 21" bidelt BUT it also comes with wide hips which is inevitable, + wide hips are a good thing and look robust, jfl if you think its about having skinny legs and wide shoulders instead of Wide everything (except waist)
legit, size> proportions, even though both together is ideal.
Yeah exactly

Me 6.5 months ago (with a pump jfl)

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Me the other day (no pump)
View attachment 29486
subhuman lighting but you can still see shoulder to waist ratio.

I look way better in shirts. Just got on cycle recently too, in another 2 months I'll look completely different again.
good progress, looks a little bit unbalanced though, try working on them forearms more.
 

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