Theory Most people fall off a looks Cliff from 30 -> 40. Due to lifestyle choices, and low effort.

[jm10]

You reap what you sow

 

[TITUS]

CollagenMaxxing, imo.

Collagen maxing guide | Looksmax.me - Mens Self-Improvement Forum

I did not try to find any new research chemical just analyse the existing methods and see their effectiveness: Dermarolling: 400% increase Skin becomes thicker with greater than 400 % increase in collagen deposition and significantly more elastin . Collagen fibre bundles qualitatively...

looksmax.me

I just joined the forum for the collagenmaxing and the whole area is locked, worse than a niggerian scam. I hope that arcane knowledge worths all this shitposting and rep begging.

 

[TITUS]

Very true

These are all symptoms of underlying aging on the cellular level - and that book I mentioned talks a lot about the research on how to slow it

Essentially the main tips

- intermittent fasting, and occasional longer fasts. It is important to FEEL hunger
- nutritious diet with no processed meat, moderate protein, and complex carbs especially veggies
- resistance training and cardio
- hot/cold therapy
- resveratrol
- NMN, NAD

Also, what's your opinion on TRT?

Good luck getting bodymaxxed on fasting, veggies and moderate protein, sounds like new age vegan faggotry.

 

[Captain_Collagen]

Good luck getting bodymaxxed on fasting, veggies and moderate protein, sounds like new age vegan faggotry.

I'm not sure what you mean

Fasting is extremely good for health and body composition, many shredded gymcels do it

You don't need as much protein as gymcel culture makes out, even so there is likely a gains/health tradeoff at some point with high protein diet for muscle gain

Wtf is the problem with veggies? You're retarded if you don't eat a lot of vegetables

 

[TITUS]

Good thread so far. I wanna add a blackpill here though. We were led to believe that aging isnt really a factor for guys when it comes to fertility. I did some research into that recently and as an oldcel myself it crushed me tbh.

Fertility and the Aging Male

The Effect of Paternal Age on Offspring Intelligence and Personality when Controlling for Parental Trait Levels

Paternal age at conception has been found to predict the number of new genetic mutations. We examined the effect of father’s age at birth on offspring intelligence, head circumference and personality traits. Using the Minnesota Twin Family Study sample we tested paternal age effects while...

journals.plos.org

Paternal Age and Offspring Morbidity

D’Onofrio and coauthors examine the associations between advancing paternal age at childbearing and offspring morbidity.

jamanetwork.com

For anybody who wants kids, do it while you´re younger. Dont be me.

It does, and age is also a major factor for female attraction, posters here are just trying to cope posting stats.
Learn from the orthodox jews, the jewish breeders start pumping kids as soon as they reach adulthood, and are facilitated university nurseries and so on. The male studies Talmud, the female pumps kids and you pay the bills, if you are lucky and a good goy you will able to afford a landwhale, a mortgage and 1-2 kids in your forties. Let's not talk about all the ethnic single moms on welfare from all the corners of the subhumanworld.

When you surrender your liberties for comforts you end up with no comforts and no liberties.

 

[skooLX-aM]

You're 30 now.
Watch the next 10 years, of your same aged peers friends.
The amount of uglyness I see, due to dudes declining alot. Is sad, yet at the same time it also feel a bit good because I'm not declining at all yet. So I finally a moveing up in thsi regard, among same aged peers and womens. In my teens and 20's I was looks wise about TOP 35% - 40% range among same aged peers at best. But now at 37, I have moved up to Top 75 % at least among same aged peers. But obviously, the idea of screwing the average 37 year old woman whom now fancy me, repulses me. not attractive idea to screw someone looking like this that is same aged as you.

Fully agree on that, about 80%+ of most western women above like 35 I find completely unattractive and am barely sexually interested in them.
Fuck gews and western society for demonizing age discrepancies of older man and younger woman, basically even such small discrepancies as 5 years of age difference, let alone more than 10.

That is why in my book, the END GAME leads to SEA or EE. Id rather ltr or even marry a 22-24 years old 4/10 sea or EE foid, than a used up western gigawhore that is a 6/10 and 36 years old (which is fkn rare anyways). Even if I would be 36 yo myself, theres no chance Id ever ltr or marry a western foid above like 27 or smth. They are emotional train wrecks, without any pair bonding left after riding CC for decades (for sure if shes above like 35), brainwashed, traumatized creatures of nature.

Lets be fkn honest here, yes if a man had a chance between a 4/10 and 6+/10 woman where the character is identical and only looks differ, he would aim for the better looking one. But most men would be happy with a young 4/10 woman (even asian), that is not "complicated", not spoiled, not demanding, not brainwashed, that is able to pair bond and that is not a used up cum dumpster and had several miles of cock run through her, like most western women that are above 30 yo.

Even as a 40 yo guy, Id aim for a mid 20s sea foid that barely speaks english, than most western women above 30.

I was at a festival once with an older buddy and his gf was even slightly older than him, she was like early to mid 30s. While she looked still kinda OKish, she annoyed the fuck out of him and basically me too, I couldnt stand her spoiled and entitled nature. I wouldnt tolerate her for longer than 1 week, heck probably longer than 2 days, before Id dump her. No ammount of smashing could compensate for her retarded character, it was mentally painful to be around her.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Wtf is the problem with veggies? You're retarded if you don't eat a lot of vegetables

I read studies.
Veggies is legit for Skintone and skin quality maxxing.
Due to the beta caroteone in it. And due to the oxidants in it.

Good thread so far. I wanna add a blackpill here though. We were led to believe that aging isnt really a factor for guys when it comes to fertility. I did some research into that recently and as an oldcel myself it crushed me tbh.

Fertility and the Aging Male

The Effect of Paternal Age on Offspring Intelligence and Personality when Controlling for Parental Trait Levels

Paternal age at conception has been found to predict the number of new genetic mutations. We examined the effect of father’s age at birth on offspring intelligence, head circumference and personality traits. Using the Minnesota Twin Family Study sample we tested paternal age effects while...

journals.plos.org

Paternal Age and Offspring Morbidity

D’Onofrio and coauthors examine the associations between advancing paternal age at childbearing and offspring morbidity.

jamanetwork.com

For anybody who wants kids, do it while you´re younger. Dont be me.

Yeah, that why I wrote "fertility is LESS of an issue" for the aging man (compared to women). I was and am aware that male "fertility" and quality does go down with aging. Compartive to women though: It goes down ALOT ALOT slower. But it does generally go down, mainly the quality. I assume lifestyle still plays a massive role in it. But I don't know for sure. As aging male, more chances of retards and stuff.

I did in the Past reas Further into the studies. On partneral age.
the results were (in most studies they don't dare to say it or test it, due to women shaming). the results were; Womens older partnernal age had a much much stronger effect and risk on this menetioned things in your quoted studies, then the men his paternal age. The difference was alot, and very significant. NOT SAYING, men stay equally quality sperm genes quality wise, but it goes down slwo. And older man has MUCH MUCH less effect On these risks like getting retards and so on AS does the Female age.

So your feelings about it, are ime exegarated a bit. Because you could maybe not read yet, which effect paternall older age of women and men had on this.
I also seen plenty old dudes. And even old old dudes (see examples below) create great kids.
Like 60-something year oldTrump. Still produced a Giant kid, that's going to height Mogg us all. And will likely be the best looking boy out of all his male chilren
Actually, the kid he co-produced at 60. Seems to going to mogg all the other kids her co-produced (with the exception of Ivanka, although hard to compare boys with girls).

ALSO. Some studies on this matter. When I investigated.
Made MASSIVE MISTAKES!
For instance, this studie results. The "FORGOT" to filter out the factor of the mothers age. Because older men that have kids on average will have them with older women. So the conclusions can't be drown like thay did. Because the children of older fathers, I bet ALL my savings on it, will have had on average (much) older mothers as well.
So, that conculsion they drawed from this study, They CAN"T draw it! Because the older age of the female/mother (which I think is the case) COULD be the main driving factor. These dumb researchers didn't control for that.

Study: Older Fathers Have Less Attractive Children

They're also at risk of low IQ, autism, schizophrenia, and bipolar disorder.

www.businessinsider.com

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[eduardkoopman]

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For example from a study:
"There is ongoing debate in the literature regarding the contribution of paternal age to trisomies in the offspring.
A study of 3419 offspring with trisomies showed a paternal age effect only when the maternal [MATERNAL = MOTHERS AGE) age was ≥ 35 years. This effect was strongest when maternal [THUS MOTHERS AGE] age was > 40 years. When maternal (FEMALE] age was > 40 years, the paternal contribution to Down syndrome [AKA RETARDATION RUNNING IN THAT DUDE HIS FAMILY] was as important as the maternal. age effect"
So a chick at 40 having kids from a healthy "bloodline" can cause as much a retard, as a man coming from a family filled with mongoloids. While thay can't really proof I found, that older dudes dreate more mongoloids due to his age. Even with his sperm have more less quality seeds in them, there are usually still plenty good quality seeds in his ejeculation which should outperform these lesser sperm seeds that are lower quality easily in the pretty difficult swimming race towards the egg. If they start doing IVF, wll then it gets tricky. But IVF people shouldn't have kids anyways.

Overall I had to conclude. That the research states/shows that:
* men produce les sperm with ageing
* men produce in the sperm less good ones (although since much release with ejeculation, the good ones should outperform the lesser sperm easily)
So male quiality does go down over time. BUT much much slower then Females. Alot slower. The age of the female shows to have much much more effect on the quality of the child, then the age factor of the man.
That was/is my conclusion from studiying this subject matter in the past.