Testing RU58841 as a stand-alone anti-androgen.

[SOS-Sonic]

I have been on fin/min for 7 month now and I have seen great results (NW 3.5 to NW 2) without ANY side effects. For the last 2 month I haven been using RU58841 sparingly on my hairline (25mg/day). However I want to test if RU58841 can impede the mighty Norwood Reaper by itself without finasteride. As an experiment I will drop fin for now and increase my dosage of RU58841 to 75mg/day or even 100mg/day to test the waters.

I started balding at 16 and became NW 3.5 at 20, so if still manage to hold on to my hair it will prove that RU58841 can fight against even the worst cases of male pattern baldness and hopefully give pussy-bois who are afraid of finasteride a less "scary" alternative. (finasteride is safe and yummy but fear mongering by miserable baldcels ruined the its reputation).

I give an update in a few months.

 

[SOS-Sonic]

On a side note, I am considering getting RU58841 from Alibaba. Does anyone have experience with that site? And are there things I should do to help my delivery get past customs (I live in Canada)?

 

[Deleted member 1751]

All the best. Tag me when you post update

 

[kubo]

tag me on updates please.

i've heard and read a lot of good things about RU and it's always good to hear more.
(just be careful if you feel like you're experiencing sides with it as the few that did get them talked about chest tightness and heart pain.)

 

[grimy]

Interesting. I am nw3 and take fin daily but skeptical on minox for the skin aging. Where have you bought your RU so far? I see so many sketchy sources online.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

How come you have no sides?

 

[Deleted member 10551]

I’m interested. Please tag me with the results.

 

[SOS-Sonic]

Interesting. I am nw3 and take fin daily but skeptical on minox for the skin aging. Where have you bought your RU so far? I see so many sketchy sources online.

I got mine from chemdelights (USA), but it recently shut down and I am now considering other suppliers.

And there is no evidence that says min ages your skin, its all BS. I literally couldn't find any studies hinting that.

 

[SOS-Sonic]

How come you have no sides?

Because I have a healthy brain and don't fall for placebo that easily. Some people get sides but its very rare.

 

[grimy]

I got mine from chemdelights (USA), but it recently shut down and I am now considering other suppliers.

Just did some searching while awaiting your response and multiple people are buying from "moreplatesmoredates" website. He's a popular youtuber who takes it as well.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Because I have a healthy brain and don't fall for placebo that easily. Some people get sides but its very rare.

What qualifies as healthy brain? Will it fuck me cuz I'm depressed

 

[SOS-Sonic]

Just did some searching while awaiting your response and multiple people are buying from "moreplatesmoredates" website. He's a popular youtuber who takes it as well.

Yeah bro, but its kinda expensive on his site. I kinda wanna get a big batch of at least 10g for a cheaper price. I'm looking at Alibaba rn and hope its legit.

 

[SOS-Sonic]

What qualifies as healthy brain? Will it fuck me cuz I'm depressed

I noticed that people who get side are usually somewhat paranoid if you know what I mean. How old r u?

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

I noticed that people who get side are usually somewhat paranoid if you know what I mean. How old r u?

19

 

[Entschuldigung]

Holy shit nw3.5 at 20
good luck bro

 

[SOS-Sonic]

19

Well I started when I just turned 20. At 19 you could still grow in rare cases so it might hinder your grow by a little if you are a very late bloomer. Suppressing DHT will not affect skeletal and muscle mass, so your height and muscles will not be affected even if you take it as a teen as suprsing as it sounds. However, DHT suppression during development can hinder penis, voice and beard growth. So at 19 you could potentially stunt your penile length by a little bit IF you are a VERY late bloomer.

If you want to go into detail about effects if DHT suppresion just message me, or better yet watch the entirety Derek's latest video. You will know all you need to know.

 

[SOS-Sonic]

Holy shit nw3.5 at 20
good luck bro

NW 2 rn after intense battle.

 

[grimy]

NW 2 rn after intense battle.

Hate to be that guy but do you have any progress pics? Hair is the only looksmax I'm really interested in. Going to order RU once I decide on a vendor (prob gonna be the one I mentioned.)

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

How come you have no sides?

lol

people need to stop thinking sides are common

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

lol

people need to stop thinking sides are common

I'm pretty sure most experience t loss

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

I'm pretty sure most experience t loss

where'd you read that? the amount of misinformation being spread about fin is nuts ngl

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

where'd you read that?

Anecdotes

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Anecdotes

mentalcels

chances are someone could've put fin in your oatmeal every morning and you wouldn't have noticed anything

even independent studies from ching chong countries prove long term safety

edit:
and I'm not saying fin is ideal or anything, far from it. but the studies speak for themselves.

 

[NorwoodMilitant]

I want to try this for myself as I don't like the idea of finasteride. I've been on it for 2 years and everything is fine but it's still not ideal

Keep us posted brother, if this shit works for you i'll do it too - i started balding at like 16-17 too

 

[SOS-Sonic]

I'm pretty sure most experience t loss

Hah! Well you clearly haven't done ANY research. Finasteride increases T because it stops it from from converting into DHT.

I dont really blame youe because lots of people fear monger. But saying finasteride reduces T is like saying drinking coffee will make you shorter. This misinformation need to stop.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Tag me when you post update

#metoo
please tagg me when you update

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Hah! Well you clearly haven't done ANY research. Finasteride increases T because it stops it from from converting into DHT.

I dont really blame youe because lots of people fear monger. But saying finasteride reduces T is like saying drinking coffee will make you shorter. This misinformation need to stop.

No I meant it as androgen loss
And dht is way more androgenic than testosterone

 

[SOS-Sonic]

Hate to be that guy but do you have any progress pics? Hair is the only looksmax I'm really interested in. Going to order RU once I decide on a vendor (prob gonna be the one I mentioned.)

Mannnnnnn I wasn't planning on posting rn because I want to get more progress before I post. But here is a 7 month progress.

Hairline moved up by roughly 2 cm and thinning on the crown completely stopped.

 

[SOS-Sonic]

No I meant it as androgen loss
And dht is way more androgenic than testosterone

Only during development. After you can suppress is without damaging your physiology. Dude what that video i showed you lmao.

 

[Oueyy]

Mannnnnnn I wasn't planning on posting rn because I want to get more progress before I post. But here is a 7 month progress.

Hairline moved up by roughly 2 cm and thinning on the crown completely stopped.

Holy shit what an insane result gj bro plus considering you got no sides.

Do you attribute it mostly on fin or minox ?

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Asians and latinos seem go bald less but great progress!!

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Do you have balding in your family?

 

[jfcage]

RU works great for 6 months especially if you have diffuse thinning. But after 6 months you have to increase the dose and no one knows how safe it is since RU wasn't tested in the long term. It will go systemic and some people get sides like chest pain, heart palpitations.

The biggest mystery about hair loss prevention is why RU was completely abandoned by the pharmaceutical industry when it is proven that stuff works.

 

[SOS-Sonic]

Do you have balding in your family?

Yes, both grandpas

 

[SOS-Sonic]

RU works great for 6 months especially if you have diffuse thinning. But after 6 months you have to increase the dose and no one knows how safe it is since RU wasn't tested in the long term. It will go systemic and some people get sides like chest pain, heart palpitations.

The biggest mystery about hair loss prevention is why RU was completely abandoned by the pharmaceutical industry when it is proven that stuff works.

That is interesting, but I will be careful and control the dosage. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Yes, both grandpas

How bout your dad?

 

[jfcage]

That is interesting, but I will be careful and control the dosage. Thanks for the heads up.

To be frank I would rather try topical finasteride instead of RU. Topical finasteride will go systemic as well, but long term sides are more well known. I would only try RU if finasteride stopped working or the sides are unbearable.

But in theory, the ultimate stock against hair loss is minox + fin / dut + RU. Fin blocks 70% of DHT but also raises testosterone levels which affect the scalp. Here comes RU in play, because it blocks testosterone on the scalp more effectively than how it blocks DHT.

 

[SOS-Sonic]

How bout your dad?

He started in his 40s so I didn't see it coming lol.

 

[RIPPED IRL]

I think its cheaper if you use fin+ru instead of ru because u will need mega dosage of ru

 

[DatNibba11]

Best of luck brother.

 

[stewiegriffin]

To be frank I would rather try topical finasteride instead of RU. Topical finasteride will go systemic as well, but long term sides are more well known. I would only try RU if finasteride stopped working or the sides are unbearable.

But in theory, the ultimate stock against hair loss is minox + fin / dut + RU. Fin blocks 70% of DHT but also raises testosterone levels which affect the scalp. Here comes RU in play, because it blocks testosterone on the scalp more effectively than how it blocks DHT.

what does test do the the scalp?

 

[jfcage]

what does test do the the scalp?

Testosterone is androgenic and can miniaturize hair follicles as well. Fin doesn't protect you from that.
RU on the other hand blocks the actions of androgens at the androgen receptor.

 

[beyourself]

Subscribed. Hope you won't norwood 7 in the meantime

 

[stewiegriffin]

Testosterone is androgenic and can miniaturize hair follicles as well. Fin doesn't protect you from that.
RU on the other hand blocks the actions of androgens at the androgen receptor.

so in theory how can one still bald if they are on dut and RU. that prob can stop like 99% of peoples MPB right

 

[Autism]

Heart attack incoming
also ive heard ppl are buying from anageninc

 

[jfcage]

so in theory how can one still bald if they are on dut and RU. that prob can stop like 99% of peoples MPB right

In theory dut and RU effectively prevent you from losing hair. Regrowth is also possible at diffuse thinning.
But these stuff don't work forever. They will lose effectiveness over time. But you can be safe for additional 15 years.
Btw. I would rather try topical dutasteride. Oral dut will castrate you.

 

[Tall]

Heart>hair

 

[stewiegriffin]

In theory dut and RU effectively prevent you from losing hair. Regrowth is also possible at diffuse thinning.
But these stuff don't work forever. They will lose effectiveness over time. But you can be safe for additional 15 years.
Btw. I would rather try topical dutasteride. Oral dut will castrate you.

I don't understand the whole "loses effectiveness". would I be bald after 15 years of dut or would I lose like 1 stage on the Norwood scale. (talking most likely obviously its different for everyone)

 

[grimy]

Mannnnnnn I wasn't planning on posting rn because I want to get more progress before I post. But here is a 7 month progress.

Hairline moved up by roughly 2 cm and thinning on the crown completely stopped.

Nice I definitely see progress. Now, to confirm, have you regrown follicles that were otherwise invisible or miniaturized on the temples? Because I know from seeing 1000’s of progress pics on reddit, a lot of people didnt actually regrow their temples, their hair just grew LONGER and covered the temples more.

 

[SOS-Sonic]

I don't understand the whole "loses effectiveness". would I be bald after 15 years of dut or would I lose like 1 stage on the Norwood scale. (talking most likely obviously its different for everyone)

I honestly don't even think its possible to suffer from androgenic alopecia if dutasteride is used with significant amounts of RU. And the drugs don't lose effectiveness, its just as we get older our hair follicles get more sensitive to androgens.