The fact leftist males hate the blackpill/lookismpill means they are fake af

[disillusioned]

Leftist progressive ideology is all about female liberation and choice, so in theory, there is actually no reason why leftist males would hate the blackpill. The blackpill is simply the notion that women don't care about stuff like status, money, wealth, etc but rather only want purely material things like looks/attractiveness. This does not contradict leftism and in fact is arguably more consistent with leftism than conservatism.

And yet, 99% of male leftists (especially cucks on places like reddit) will absolutely lose their shit if you bring the topic up. They will call you incel, misogynist, etc.

What this tells us, is that their supposed support for women's rights is a fake larp. They don't care. They just think that by virtue signaling to women, they are more likely to stay in their good graces. It's all cynical and fake af.

 

[Deleted member 32285]

FUCK BETA MALES!

 

[Danish_Retard]

Because of the implication

Leftists want to redistribute resources towards "fairness"

When imagine what their minds think when you show sex can be viewed as a resource, and it's hugely unequal. Obviously, such a resource should be controlled, it's the only way that works in that worldview, but OH NO, now you're in a conflict with feminism, and their mind breaks.

So obviously you're evil for showing them this, and your arguments must be discarded, not thought about.

 

[disillusioned]

Because of the implication

Leftists want to redistribute resources towards "fairness"

When imagine what their minds thinks when you show sex can be viewed as a resource, and it's huge unequal.

It's not even that complicated. They are just legit fake as shit. They don't care about women's rights or anybody's rights. They're just tossers who know they can't get laid by being attractive/masculine, so they cope by becoming soybots.

But you are correct in that ideas like socialism become unworkable if you accept the blackpill is fact. How can you have a truly equal and harmonious social order when 90% the males are incels that women hate?

 

[Deleted member 21345]

The subhuman vaush came close to admitting this

He actually said he thinks promoting lgbt and polamory or whatever will make it easier for subhumans to slay, and women's attraction to chad is because of the patriarchy or some such nonsense

 

[khvirgin]

what benefit would they reap?
They advocate for the women’s right to choose and be liberated, not for the blackpill
That would mean being a “good person” would give you no benefits in the dating market, because if a “right wing chud” can get laid even if he’s a bad person, why would I be a good person?

Thinking that some tall masculine chad can get everything he wants dismantles their ideas about toxic masculinity

 

[alien]

Women absolutely do care about status, money and wealth. I would argue that above 21-23 years old, women care more about money and wealth than looks and sex by a long shot. Whereas when girls and women are in their teens and early twenties and have few responsibilities in life, that's when they give more weighting to looks and sex.

If women craved Chad penis as much as this forum homoerotically fantasizes about Chad penis, why is it that almost all of the prostitution out there is men paying for it and very few women paying for it?

 

[MoggerGaston]

Because of the implication

Leftists want to redistribute resources towards "fairness"

When imagine what their minds think when you show sex can be viewed as a resource, and it's hugely unequal. Obviously, such a resource should be controlled, it's the only way that works in that worldview, but OH NO, now you're in a conflict with feminism, and their mind breaks.

So obviously you're evil for showing them this, and your arguments must be discarded, not thought about.

The more resources are distributed based on 'fairness' and who 'deserves or needs it most', the more resources go to women.

Since they hold the empathy/sympathy privilege.

Men should always fight against society, against government, since it's a net negative to men in general, and a net positive to women. Especially in the modern world where some retards thought it would be good to give women (political) power. Cagefuel.

 

[alien]

The subhuman vaush came close to admitting this

He actually said he thinks promoting lgbt and polamory or whatever will make it easier for subhumans to slay, and women's attraction to chad is because of the patriarchy or some such nonsense

Do you have a link to the clip where Vaush said this? I haven't listened to his youtube channel in awhile.

 

[MoggerGaston]

If women craved Chad penis as much as this forum homoerotically fantasizes about Chad penis, why is it that almost all of the prostitution out there is men paying for it and very few women paying for it?

only retards claim that.

women have almost no libido compared to men. There's an insane amount of studies that prove it.

 

[Deleted member 21345]

Do you have a link to the clip where Vaush said this? I haven't listened to his youtube channel in awhile.

It's in his debate with wheat waffles

 

[alien]

only retards claim that.

women have almost no libido compared to men. There's an insane amount of studies that prove it.

That makes sense considering that men have like what? 15x 20x the testosterone of women?
I had an Asian trans ex-FWB. And she used to want sex all the time when we first met. But then she became a lot less interested in sex later on. And I wonder if its due to the hormones she takes.

 

[disillusioned]

Women absolutely do care about status, money and wealth.

lol no they don't.

The meme about the trophy wives cheating on their husbands with the sexy pool boys or whatever is more than just a meme. It's literally how this works.

Marriage is 100% about cucking betabucker men into giving money to women so they can go cheat with Chad.

 

[NationalWarrior]

most leftists are ugly so

 

[TUSSELEIF]

Because women only caring about genetics still implies they are superficial, which feminists (and male feminists) are staunchly against. Feminists are opposed to women being superficial in any way because to them women are pure and innocent who only care about your person

 

[datboijj]

Because of the implication

Leftists want to redistribute resources towards "fairness"

When imagine what their minds think when you show sex can be viewed as a resource, and it's hugely unequal. Obviously, such a resource should be controlled, it's the only way that works in that worldview, but OH NO, now you're in a conflict with feminism, and their mind breaks.

So obviously you're evil for showing them this, and your arguments must be discarded, not thought about.

and the black pill is very eugenics based
which the left tries so hard to discard and discredit

 

[IBlamePhaggots]

Leftist progressive ideology is all about female liberation and choice, so in theory, there is actually no reason why leftist males would hate the blackpill. The blackpill is simply the notion that women don't care about stuff like status, money, wealth, etc but rather only want purely material things like looks/attractiveness. This does not contradict leftism and in fact is arguably more consistent with leftism than conservatism.

And yet, 99% of male leftists (especially cucks on places like reddit) will absolutely lose their shit if you bring the topic up. They will call you incel, misogynist, etc.

What this tells us, is that their supposed support for women's rights is a fake larp. They don't care. They just think that by virtue signaling to women, they are more likely to stay in their good graces. It's all cynical and fake af.

Its white knighting to try and get pity pussy

 

[infini]

Leftist progressive ideology is all about female liberation and choice, so in theory, there is actually no reason why leftist males would hate the blackpill. The blackpill is simply the notion that women don't care about stuff like status, money, wealth, etc but rather only want purely material things like looks/attractiveness. This does not contradict leftism and in fact is arguably more consistent with leftism than conservatism.

And yet, 99% of male leftists (especially cucks on places like reddit) will absolutely lose their shit if you bring the topic up. They will call you incel, misogynist, etc.

What this tells us, is that their supposed support for women's rights is a fake larp. They don't care. They just think that by virtue signaling to women, they are more likely to stay in their good graces. It's all cynical and fake af.

The white knights. Couldn't happen to better people. They are the ones who are eager to shout at incels and the ideologies yet are ironically incels in denial.

No differrent to normies who think they are safe in numbers keeping in line on a website and making any dare to think outside for themselves and make a dare.

 

[disillusioned]

which the left tries so hard to discard and discredit

The funny thing is that they don't even reject eugenics, they just reject the right-wing version of it. They call Trump supporters monkeys, unevolved, primitives, etc. And it's the same for basically anybody that isn't a leftist soybot like them. They actually fucking hate most of the demographics they once pretend to champion.

 

[Aladin]

The funny thing is that they don't even reject eugenics, they just reject the right-wing version of it. They call Trump supporters monkeys, unevolved, primitives, etc. And it's the same for basically anybody that isn't a leftist soybot like them. They actually fucking hate most of the demographics they once pretend to champion.

They hate Asians and Indians but love niggers sandniggers and spics

 

[disillusioned]

They hate Asians and Indians but love niggers sandniggers and spics

Both of those demographics are overwhelmingly leftist.

And they don't 'love' blacks or spics. They just see them as useful idiots to lower wages whilst importing a voting block.

 

[Aladin]

Both of those demographics are overwhelmingly leftist.

Leftists still hate them.

 

[disillusioned]

Leftists still hate them.

Elab.

 

[Arminius]

Woman dont care about looks once they settle down

 

[Aladin]

Affirmative action was a good example. Taking away from Asian and Indians to enable niggers and spics to get into high quality universities than merited.

Elab.

 

[HumidVent]

I'm a Marxist and I agree, however over the years I have found a handful of other blackpilled Marxists, but we are an extremely small percentage of leftists. And even then we all know to keep our mouths shut whenever the topic of sex or dating comes up.
Despite most Marxists believing they have critical thinking abilities the truth is the vast majority of them just have issues with capitalism and find marxism as some sort of confirmation bias without truly understanding what a materialist analysis looks like.

 

[disillusioned]

Affirmative action was a good example. Taking away from Asian and Indians to enable niggers and spics to get into high quality universities than merited.

I've often wondered if affirmative action is actually a secret white conspiracy to keep Asians under control. The idea is that the number of Asians is limited artificially and meanwhile the blacks/brownies can be kept under control because of their lower competence.

 

[disillusioned]

 

[alriodai]

need to make the difference between leftits and liberal cucks, stop putting them in the same bracket
second, conservatism, edgy alt-right and fascism ideologies, alongside basic bigotry (racism, homophobia blabla) is super attached to the blackpill and incel community, rare to see actual leftists supporting that
although, there is leftists here that hold women accountable and admit and know that women have an advantage over men, me included and lord_arthur previously

tbh i feel like you're just a victim of rage-baiting from the liberals, there is alot of leftists i met online that acknoledge the blackpill but hate the community (which is true)

 

[Mastermind]

They simply cannot accept the fact that the average college-educated, 9-to-5 working, money-adjusted woman has no reason whatsoever to settle down with an unremarkable man and will rather stay single and have sex with her dogs than give unexceptional average or below men a chance.

 

[klip11]

Leftist progressive ideology is all about female liberation and choice, so in theory, there is actually no reason why leftist males would hate the blackpill. The blackpill is simply the notion that women don't care about stuff like status, money, wealth, etc but rather only want purely material things like looks/attractiveness. This does not contradict leftism and in fact is arguably more consistent with leftism than conservatism.

And yet, 99% of male leftists (especially cucks on places like reddit) will absolutely lose their shit if you bring the topic up. They will call you incel, misogynist, etc.

What this tells us, is that their supposed support for women's rights is a fake larp. They don't care. They just think that by virtue signaling to women, they are more likely to stay in their good graces. It's all cynical and fake af.

Agreed but disagree about women not caring about status and money. While you have a little bit of control over those things unlike your bone structure, those things are still difficult to control.

Most men are not going to be millionaires unless born into a wealthy family or win the lottery. Status can also be difficult to obtain

 

[klip11]

That makes sense considering that men have like what? 15x 20x the testosterone of women?
I had an Asian trans ex-FWB. And she used to want sex all the time when we first met. But then she became a lot less interested in sex later on. And I wonder if its due to the hormones she takes.

Why are you a faggot

 

[klip11]

Women absolutely do care about status, money and wealth. I would argue that above 21-23 years old, women care more about money and wealth than looks and sex by a long shot. Whereas when girls and women are in their teens and early twenties and have few responsibilities in life, that's when they give more weighting to looks and sex.

If women craved Chad penis as much as this forum homoerotically fantasizes about Chad penis, why is it that almost all of the prostitution out there is men paying for it and very few women paying for it?

True. Even a good looking man would have difficulty getting young, attractive women to pay for sex with him. Even male prostitutes have almost 100 percent male clients. And women who do pay for sex from attractive men tend to be middle aged, out of shape landwhales .

 

[disillusioned]

Agreed but disagree about women not caring about status and money. While you have a little bit of control over those things unlike your bone structure, those things are still difficult to control.

Most men are not going to be millionaires unless born into a wealthy family or win the lottery. Status can also be difficult to obtain

I'll paraphrase my original argument.

Women don't find power attractive except as a means to an end.

Even if an incel had billions of dollars, even if some gold digger foid was willing to marry him, there still wouldn't be any actual attraction and she would most certainly cheat with poorer but more attractive men.

Most men don't understand that women have historically valued status/money primarily because until recently they just didn't have any choice on the matter. Now, they do.

 

[Mr Test]

 

[ElTruecel]

Yea I’ve never met a progressive leftist incel. Most leftist or commie cels are usually tankies or the usual social right left wing economically.

 

[alien]

Why are you a faggot

Having sex with a transwoman who passes is better than not having sex at all.
I also fell in love with my Asian trans ex-FWB. But then I soon realized that she was no different personality wise from every other cis foid and was just finessing me for free stuff and attention. There are lots of men who are fucking evil in this world too. Not just women. But I think the estrogen, testosterone blockers and whatever she takes makes her behave more and more like a foid. She hangs out with lots of foid friends too. I wonder if she is a transbian in denial and is only sexually attracted to women but copes by becoming trans to have sex with "straight" men like me instead.

 

[disillusioned]

Yea I’ve never met a progressive leftist incel.

Are you serious they're literally the default now a days.

 

[ElTruecel]

Are you serious they're literally the default now a days.

No they aren’t Im on .is and all of us are extremely farther to the right. You can see a clear difference between .org and .is in terms of which group is more vicious towards certain pandered to groups.

Lol .org is full of a political or leftist users while us on .is are really purely just far right in every aspect of the definition.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Leftist progressive ideology is all about female liberation and choice, so in theory, there is actually no reason why leftist males would hate the blackpill. The blackpill is simply the notion that women don't care about stuff like status, money, wealth, etc but rather only want purely material things like looks/attractiveness. This does not contradict leftism and in fact is arguably more consistent with leftism than conservatism.

And yet, 99% of male leftists (especially cucks on places like reddit) will absolutely lose their shit if you bring the topic up. They will call you incel, misogynist, etc.

What this tells us, is that their supposed support for women's rights is a fake larp. They don't care. They just think that by virtue signaling to women, they are more likely to stay in their good graces. It's all cynical and fake af.

Inceltears types exist because they are very insecure about their place. Most of these men are borderline incel oofy doofys. People hate what they are close to thats why nerds always pick on the biggest loser humans always want to find something inferior to them but they don't want to admit they are closer to incels then a well adjusted chad

 

[radicalrationalist]

Yea I’ve never met a progressive leftist incel. Most leftist or commie cels are usually tankies or the usual social right left wing economically.

uglies who fuck uglies are still incel

 

[Krakowski]

Just ignore reality and it goes away theory

That's what they want to happen

 

[ElTruecel]

uglies who fuck uglies are still incel

I meant self identified

 

[LevantinePsycho]

water

 

[thecel]

The subhuman vaush came close to admitting this

He actually said he thinks promoting lgbt and polamory or whatever will make it easier for subhumans to slay, and women's attraction to chad is because of the patriarchy or some such nonsense

Low-IQ post. You misunderstood Vaush’s argument. His point is legitimate. However, I’d say that its significance is quite small.

The strength of lookism varies between individuals. Some women are more lookist than others.

Social pressures incentivize the not-so-lookist women to behave more lookist because they want to make themselves look better and have higher social status.

Women select for tall men mainly because of biology and a little bit because of social standards. Say there’s a woman somewhere who finds a man shorter than her attractive, but she still rejects him because she’s concerned about how others will judge her, especially when she wears heels.

Lookist culture makes less-lookist people behave more lookist. Applies to men too. Men are sometimes attracted to women whom they wouldn’t want to be seen in public with. A fatphobic culture leads fat-admiring men to act against their desires.

A more obvious example is race. In a culture where interracial marriage is frowned upon, people refrain from dating people of other ethnicities, including ones whom they find attractive.

Vaush says, if the social pressures went away, people would feel free to select partners solely based on their own preferences without having to care what society would think.

I’d argue that social pressures for height and universally attractive facial features can’t be gotten rid of, but social pressures for race can and have been gotten rid of.

 

[Deleted member 21345]

Low-IQ post. You misunderstood Vaush’s argument. His point is legitimate. However, I’d say that its significance is quite small.

The strength of lookism varies between individuals. Some women are more lookist than others.

Social pressures incentivize the not-so-lookist women to behave more lookist because they want to make themselves look better and have higher social status.

Women select for tall men mainly because of biology and a little bit because of social standards. Say there’s a woman somewhere who finds a man shorter than her attractive, but she still rejects him because she’s concerned about how others will judge her, especially when she wears heels.

Lookist culture makes less-lookist people behave more lookist. Applies to men too. Men are sometimes attracted to women whom they wouldn’t want to be seen in public with. A fatphobic culture leads fat-admiring men to act against their desires.

A more obvious example is race. In a culture where interracial marriage is frowned upon, people refrain from dating people of other ethnicities, including ones whom they find attractive.

Vaush says, if the social pressures went away, people would feel free to select partners solely based on their own preferences without having to care what society would think.

I’d argue that social pressures for height and universally attractive facial features can’t be gotten rid of, but social pressures for race can and have been gotten rid of.

If that's what he meant you made his point better than he did ig

 

[Deleted member 21345]

But as you say the significance is small. It sounded like he was presenting it as a catch all solution and that it would even the playing fields

I'm not going to give vaush much benefit of the doubt, I've seen his priors. I think he believes things like the 80/20 rule can be mostly handwaved away by his solutions

As you say, people would choose their preferences without caring what society thinks. Vaush suggests that oofy doofy subhumans will have an easy time if the societal barriers are removed

Those preferences are still gonna be for chad, just means rice or curry chad will have somewhat easier time. It won't have any meaningful impact on the incel thing at large. Vaush suggests it will

@thecel

 

[thecel]

This does not contradict leftism

Blackpill doesn’t contradict leftism directly, but blackpill has strong roots in essentialism, which most leftists don’t believe is true.

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When it comes to differences between the sexes, essentialists hold that there is an inherent, inalienable, 'essential' difference between men and women. Constructivism holds that the differences between men and women (and or behaviour) are constructed by society. In short: this is the nature nurture debate. Constructivism lends itself well to progressive political ideologies because there is no 'human nature' that can stand in the way of societal change. Contrarily, essentialism is useful to conservative political views because it justifies the status quo with reference to human nature. In the case of sexism, for example, an essentialist might argue "Men cannot help but be violent, sex-obsessed and power hungry: we can never expect men to completely deny their essential nature." Whereas a progressive thinker might point to social influences (such as rape culture and gender roles in the media), claiming that male behaviour is the product of society and could be socialised to be more socially useful. Edit: I assume the person who messaged you is extremely progressive and dislikes the idea of an essential human nature that might stand in the way of their utopian vision.

@Aloha @Krakowski Thoughts?

 

[thecel]

But I think the estrogen, testosterone blockers and whatever she takes makes her behave more and more like a foid. She hangs out with lots of foid friends too.

Dream lifestyle. I tried to make female friends and failed.

I wonder if she is a transbian in denial and is only sexually attracted to women but copes by becoming trans to have sex with "straight" men like me instead.

Do you think I’m coping like this?

 

[Deleted member 18522]

I'm a Stalinist