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It's the blue pill in disguise. I'm living proof that it's wrong. Normies don't give a fuck if you're one of them. All they care about are your connections via social circles and your leverage within them and the greater society. Women control which men are allowed into the desirable social circles. If you're ugly, they won't let you in.

NT pillers like to use autism as undeniable proof of behaviour determinism because autistics can't properly socialise. They then point at this forums significantly large autistic user base as proof. I am going to refute this. Autism is a highly heritable behavioral trait that is a marker of genetic load. Because the mind is 80% of the genome, mutations of the mind will most certainly be visible on the outward phenotype.

So, said markers of mutation are deviations from the optimal reference genotype e.g 'chad.' Markers of genetic load are the following, protruding ears, male pattern baldness, recessed maxilla, obesity, short height, very tall height, unibrow, little to no muscle, narrow shoulders, recessed chin, etc. So, autistics are uglier on average and this is the reason they are abused and hated by everyone, including their family members. It has nothing to do with their behaviour. Neurotypicality helps with getting more exposure to women via social circles. But once you're in the social circle. The women will judge you and pick the men who're attractive. If they have no attractive men to pick from, they'll use you as a place holder until they find an attractive partner and that's when they'll mate switch. Neurotypicality is synonymous with lower mutational load. So, on average neurotypicals are better looking and thus have an easier time getting into social circles.

If you're ugly. It's over, unless you locationmax.
 
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No one wants to be friends or make connections with an austist who will likely not have those things, they want to make friends with someone neurotypical who has a good social life and connections.
 
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Normies care if you provide value to them if they associate with you. In the context of friendships that value usually takes the form of companionship, emotional support, ability to entertain each other, share interests and hobbies, social validation (i.e. they feel confident in their friendship with you, they don't wonder about whether you're a weirdo who society would disapprove of and who makes them look weird to others) etc., and you need to be NT for that.
 
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No one wants to be friends or make connections with an austist who will likely not have those things, they want to make friends with someone neurotypical who has a good social life and connections.
I had loads of friends throughout school despite being autistic. So, you are wrong. No one wants ugly people around them. There's no social circle for your face.
 
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I had loads of friends throughout school despite being autistic. So, you are wrong. No one wants ugly people around them. There's no social circle for your face.
Are you diagnosed autistic? Did you have multiple social circles and good connections? Even if the answer to both is yes it doesn't matter, as your individual experience does not create a good argument for the entire population
 
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Normies care if you provide value to them if they associate with you. In the context of friendships that value usually takes the form of companionship, emotional support, ability to entertain each other, share interests and hobbies, social validation (i.e. they feel confident in their friendship with you, they don't wonder about whether you're a weirdo who society would disapprove of and who makes them look weird to others) etc., and you need to be NT for that.

Good looks attract women and thus normies will see you as a valuable person to be around If women like you. So, normies will associate with said guys because every guy wants pussy and pussy magnets help with this. If a guy has no friends and is incel. It's because he's ugly. Autistics can learn social cues and how to socialise. But their ugliness prevents them from getting into social circles and learning them and it becomes a downwards cycle from then on.
 
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Are you diagnosed autistic? Did you have multiple social circles and good connections? Even if the answer to both is yes it doesn't matter, as your individual experience does not create a good argument for the entire population
I have proven using the facts of biology that autistics are uglier on average. It is the primary reason for their social exclusion. Women don't like ugliness because it signals low fitness and less survivability for their offspring.

My anecdotal experience is further proof that it's all looks.
 
I have proven using the facts of biology that autistics are uglier on average. It is the primary reason for their social exclusion.

My anecdotal experience is further proof that it's all looks.
Using your anecdotal experience makes you no different than bluepillers who say: "I know this one guy who's ugly and short and has an attractive girlfriend!" You can be ugly and still get friends and connections, you will just have to work harder and be disrespected more.
 
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Using your anecdotal experience makes you no different than bluepillers who say: "I know this one guy who's ugly and short and has an attractive girlfriend!" You can be ugly and still get friends and connections, you will just have to work harder and be disrespected more.
Quit strawmaning. I have proven using biology that autism is a marker of bad genetics. Unless you can refute it, you have no argument.

My anecdotal experiences are the cherry on top.
 
Quit strawmaning. I have proven using biology that autism is a marker of bad genetics. Unless you can refute it, you have no argument.

My anecdotal experiences are the cherry on top.
Autism = trouble socializing = trouble creating relationships = trouble finding social groups and connections. If you want me to link some stuff for you I can but this is like saying the sky is blue and the grass is green. Yes being ugly hinders you, but social skills can land you a friend group and connections.

Also my anecdote is the complete opposite and I know of autistic ATTRACTIVE people that have struggled
 
Autism = trouble socializing = trouble creating relationships = trouble finding social groups and connections. If you want me to link some stuff for you I can but this is like saying the sky is blue and the grass is green. Yes being ugly hinders you, but social skills can land you a friend group and connections.

Also my anecdote is the complete opposite and I know of autistic ATTRACTIVE people that have struggled
Autistics have trouble socialising because they are uglier on average. You can't develop social skills if no one wants to socialise with you. Being ugly isn't just a hindrance, it's a social death sentence.

The autistics you know who you believe are attractive aren't attractive, hence their struggling with the opposite sex.

I have been both attractive and ugly at different stages in my life. And being ugly is pure and utter hell. You have no idea normie.
 
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Autistics have trouble socialising because they are uglier on average. You can't develop social skills if no one wants to socialise with you. Being ugly isn't just a hindrance, it's a social death sentence.

The autistics you know who you believe are attractive aren't attractive, hence their struggle with the opposite sex.
I understand your though process, and I would have agreed with you when I first joined but it's too tunnel vision on looks and disregarding the social aspect of autism. Ugly men can still make connections and friendships, it's just that it will be difficult for them to do so and women will want them six feet under.
 
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I understand your though process, and I would have agreed with you when I first joined but it's too tunnel vision on looks and disregarding the social aspect of autism. Ugly men can still make connections and friendships, it's just that it will be difficult for them to do so and women will want them six feet under. I do think that the halo of being a chad can outweigh the negative aspects of autism but that's it
Women want attractive men regardless if they're NT or neurotypical. Neurotypicals are better looking hence their easier time getting into social circles and getting relationships.

I never denied that ugly men can make friends with each other, its possible but it won't happen most of the time because all relationships are transaction. If there's no benefit, no association shall take place.

The reason autistics struggle is solely down to their weird and ugly looks that have prevented them from acquiring the necessary social skills. An ugly neurotypical is just as fucked because they couldn't have acquired the necessary social skills during their formative years, 0 to 20. I know this from life experience and the genetic data doesn't lie.
 
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Women want attractive men regardless if they're NT or neurotypical. Neurotypicals are better looking hence their easy time getting into social circles and getting relationships.

I never denied that ugly men can make friends with each other, its possible but it won't happen most of the time because all relationships are transaction. If there's no benefit, no association shall take place.

The reason autistics struggle is solely down to their weird and ugly looks that have prevented them from acquiring the necessary social skills. I know this from life experience and the genetic data doesn't lie.
Autistic peoples neurodevelopment differs from neurotypical people
 
Autistic peoples neurodevelopment differs from neurotypical people
Their physical genetic abnormalities outway their mental abnormalities. Forced loneliness amplifies autistic tendencies. Autistics can learn to mimic if given the opportunity to socialise.

'Impacts of child trauma exposure on neurodevelopment
In a recent meta-analysis of structural MRI studies [37], childhood trauma was associated with reduced gray matter in the hippocampus and dorsolateral (dl)PFC, regions implicated in the contextual regulation of threat and emotion regulation, respectively.

Adolescents are at a unique period in their lives when the social environment is important for crucial functions in brain development, self-concept construction, and mental health. Rodent studies show substantial and potentially long-term effects of social deprivation and isolation in adolescence on neurochemistry, structural brain development, and behaviours associated with mental health problems.'
 
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It's the blue pill in disguise. I'm living proof that it's wrong. Normies don't give a fuck if you're one of them. All they care about are your connections via social circles and your leverage within them and the greater society. Women control which men are allowed into the desirable social circles. If you're ugly, they won't let you in.

NT pillers like to use autism as undeniable proof of behaviour determinism because autistics can't properly socialise. They then point at this forums significantly large autistic user base as proof. I am going to refute this. Autism is a highly heritable behavioral trait that is a marker of genetic load. Because the mind is 80% of the genome, mutations of the mind will most certainly be visible on the outward phenotype.

So, said markers of mutation are deviations from the optimal reference genotype e.g 'chad.' Markers of genetic load are the following, protruding ears, male pattern baldness, recessed maxilla, obesity, short height, very tall height, unibrow, little to no muscle, narrow shoulders, recessed chin, etc. So, autistics are uglier on average and this is the reason they are abused and hated by everyone, including their family members. It has nothing to do with their behaviour. Neurotypicality helps with getting more exposure to women via social circles. But once you're in the social circle. The women will judge you and pick the men who're attractive. If they have no attractive men to pick from, they'll use you as a place holder until they find an attractive partner and that's when they'll mate switch. Neurotypicality is synonymous with lower mutational load. So, on average neurotypicals are better looking and thus have an easier time getting into social circles.

If you're ugly. It's over, unless you locationmax.
Nigger one of my classmates is mtn range and giga non nt no one wants to be friend with him
 
nt = boring life, 0 risk
dark triad = fun life, high risk

just be chad
 
Their physical genetic abnormalities outway their mental abnormalities.

'Impacts of child trauma exposure on neurodevelopment
In a recent meta-analysis of structural MRI studies [37], childhood trauma was associated with reduced gray matter in the hippocampus and dorsolateral (dl)PFC, regions implicated in the contextual regulation of threat and emotion regulation, respectively.

Adolescents are at a unique period in their lives when the social environment is important for crucial functions in brain development, self-concept construction, and mental health. Rodent studies show substantial and potentially long-term effects of social deprivation and isolation in adolescence on neurochemistry, structural brain development, and behaviours associated with mental health problems.'
Yes and that trauma can be caused by abnormal brain development affecting your ability to socialize. If you are socialized correctly by your parents you will likely not have that trauma as people will connect with you
 
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Imagine being so dense that you unironically believe looks are the only part of the equation.
 
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Nigger one of my classmates is mtn range and giga non nt no one wants to be friend with him
Nigger? Watch your mouth, boy. Guys rating other guys is giga cringe. Autistics will look 'off' due to their differing genetic make up compared to neurotypicals.
 
Being NT may not get you laid but being low status is number 1 incel trait. Maybe not nowadays cuz tinder/dating apps. But in past 100%, cuz low status = u wont be able to get access to social circle, to be close proximity to female
 
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Yes and that trauma can be caused by abnormal brain development affecting your ability to socialize. If you are socialized correctly by your opinions you will likely not have that trauma as people will connect with you
No, you don't even understand what the definition of trauma even means. Trauma is external damage upon an individual which has affect their brain development.

In order to be socialized correctly and be treated with respect from a young age, a child must have at least average looks from a young age. Autistics don't have average looks, they are massively below average on average because autism is tied with physical abnormalities.
 
Being NT may not get you laid but being low status is number 1 incel trait. Maybe not nowadays cuz tinder/dating apps. But in past 100%, cuz low status = u wont be able to get access to social circle, to be close proximity to female
Women determine who is allowed in their social circles. So, NT behaviourism is irrelevant because they won't allow guys they deem unattractive in their social circle and thus, said rejected guys are low status. There are unattractive NTs and attractive autistics. Women will always pick the attractive guy over the less attractive guy. Attractive to girls begins at HTN with a few MTN exceptions because of the perquinity factor related to early bonding through family or forced socialisation in school type environments.
 
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No, you don't even understand what the definition of trauma even means. Trauma is external damage upon an individual which has affect their brain development.

In order to be socialized correctly and be treated with respect from a young age, a child must have at least average looks from a young age. Autistics don't have average looks, they are massively below average on average because autism is tied with physical abnormalities.
Yes by that definition, which I already knew, I am correct. And again I disagree but that's fine I'm not invested in this topic enough to continue discussing this.
 
It's the blue pill in disguise. I'm living proof that it's wrong. Normies don't give a fuck if you're one of them. All they care about are your connections via social circles and your leverage within them and the greater society. Women control which men are allowed into the desirable social circles. If you're ugly, they won't let you in.

NT pillers like to use autism as undeniable proof of behaviour determinism because autistics can't properly socialise. They then point at this forums significantly large autistic user base as proof. I am going to refute this. Autism is a highly heritable behavioral trait that is a marker of genetic load. Because the mind is 80% of the genome, mutations of the mind will most certainly be visible on the outward phenotype.

So, said markers of mutation are deviations from the optimal reference genotype e.g 'chad.' Markers of genetic load are the following, protruding ears, male pattern baldness, recessed maxilla, obesity, short height, very tall height, unibrow, little to no muscle, narrow shoulders, recessed chin, etc. So, autistics are uglier on average and this is the reason they are abused and hated by everyone, including their family members. It has nothing to do with their behaviour. Neurotypicality helps with getting more exposure to women via social circles. But once you're in the social circle. The women will judge you and pick the men who're attractive. If they have no attractive men to pick from, they'll use you as a place holder until they find an attractive partner and that's when they'll mate switch. Neurotypicality is synonymous with lower mutational load. So, on average neurotypicals are better looking and thus have an easier time getting into social circles.

If you're ugly. It's over, unless you locationmax.
Agree. Lower mutational load can mean you're just not very evolved tbh. Which makes you into a bland normie. Which would be just meh.
 
Yes and that trauma can be caused by abnormal brain development affecting your ability to socialize. If you are socialized correctly by your parents you will likely not have that trauma as people will connect with you
How well parents treat their child is correlated to how good looking and healthy he/she is. So, the poor brain development and social impairment starts at day 1 for the majority of autistic.
 
Yes by that definition, which I already knew, I am correct. And again I disagree but that's fine I'm not invested in this topic enough to continue discussing this.
Nope. You specifically implied that the impairment was entirely internal from genes. It is not. It is primarily enviornmentally induced the lack of social skills because you can't force someone to like or desire to socialise with you.
 
Nope. You specifically implied that the impairment was entirely internal from genes. It is not. It is primarily enviornmentally induced the lack of social skills because you can't force someone to like or desire to socialise with you.
If you felt that was what I was implying it's not the case. I said it can be caused by it, not that it's the only cause. And the reason I brought up the parent thing was me implying that if the child has an average environment and isn't socially impaired by autism, they have a good chance of finding friends even when ugly, just not extremely subhuman
 
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If you felt that was what I was implying it's not the case. I said it can be caused by it, not that it's the only cause. And the reason I brought up the parent thing was me implying that if the child has an average environment and isn't socially impaired by autism, they have a good chance of finding friends even when ugly, just extremely subhuman
This is where you get it wrong. Autism is the result of adversity and it's deleterious affects on brain devolopement. So, ugly babies all the way up until adulthood, will be mistreated by EVERYONE because they are genetic dead ends.

The only legit cases of autism that are solely the result of genetics are the individuals who're drolling retards and who can't wipe their own arses. 'Autistics' who can function without a care taker, weren't born with social impairments, it was through traumatization and social exclusion that their brain developed to be socially impaired. Their subpar genetics are the root cause which resulted in the development of autistic like behaviour.
 
Women determine who is allowed in their social circles. So, NT behaviourism is irrelevant because they won't allow guys they deem unattractive in their social circle and thus, said rejected guys are low status. There are unattractive NTs and attractive autistics. Women will always pick the attractive guy over the less attractive guy. Attractive to girls begins at HTN with a few MTN exceptions because of the perquinity factor related to early bonding through family or forced socialisation in school type environments.
There are not surplus of attractive men for female to pick from and allow into the social circle. They have to settle for some social utility. Ugly guy with social utility will be invited too.

FYI, social circle setting, guys are lot more brutal vs female in allowing social failo guy in the circle.
 
If you felt that was what I was implying it's not the case. I said it can be caused by it, not that it's the only cause. And the reason I brought up the parent thing was me implying that if the child has an average environment and isn't socially impaired by autism, they have a good chance of finding friends even when ugly, just extremely subhuman
'Several studies have suggested that emotional neglect may increase the risk of autism. One study published in the Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders found that children who experienced emotional neglect were more likely to have autism spectrum disorder (ASD) than children who did not experience emotional neglect.

Another study published in the Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry found that children with ASD were more likely to have experienced emotional neglect than children without ASD.'
There are not surplus of attractive men for female to pick from and allow into the social circle. They have to settle for some social utility. Ugly guy with social utility will be invited too.

FYI, social circle setting, guys are lot more brutal vs female in allowing social failo guy in the circle.
There doesn't need to be a surplus of attractive men because women share the same guys. Social utility is synonymous with the genetic value of the individual.

Ugly guy with social utility will be invited too.
This is a complete and utter lie. Ugly guys will never get invited to house parties or other types of social venues by females. Out of chance, if ugly guys managed to make friends with attractive males and the attractive male friend brought the ugly guy to the party unannounced, he'd get third wheeled and ignored by all of the females at the party.
 
This is where you get it wrong. Autism is the result of adversity and it's deleterious affects on brain devolopement. So, ugly babies all the way up until adulthood, will be mistreated by EVERYONE because they are genetic dead ends.

The only legit cases of autism that are solely the result of genetics are the individuals who're drolling retards and who can't wipe their own arses. 'Autistics' who can function without a care taker, weren't born with social impairments, it was through traumatization and social exclusion that their brain developed to be socially impaired. Their subpar genetics are the root cause which resulted in the development of autistic like behaviour.
We for the most part have the same opinion on that, just to varying degrees. And I'd just replace the word autism in that sentence with being socially retarded/inept compared to the kids that are actually autistic.
 
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We for the most part have the same opinion, just to varying degrees. And I'd just replace the word autism in that sentence with being socially retarded/inept compared to the kids that struggle with normal function
No, we don't. You failed to comprehend what i'm saying. The social retardation 'autism' is the consequences of being ugly and excluded resulting in faulty neurological development, hence their inability to pick up on social cues. This is the 'autistics' who dont require a carer.
 
No, we don't. You failed to comprehend what i'm saying. The social retardation 'autism' is the consequences of being ugly and excluded resulting in faulty neurological development.
Yes I understood what you said
 
We both think that being ugly affects social skills and environment can cause autism/social retardation, but I think there also exists autism that's genetic caused by brain development

To clarify my original post was not referring to autism caused solely by brain development, I just used autism as a term for people with poor social skills, I believe people would want to be friends with people with poor social skills less than people with good social skills (excluding looks). And I think that despite being ugly, someone can still has the potential to make friends and connections but they will struggle more than an attractive person and it's less likely to occur

Overall it's about having the entire package: people would rather be friends with a good looking and social guy than a good looking introverted guy. That's essentially all I was saying before it started derailing
 
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I have proven using the facts of biology that autistics are uglier on average. It is the primary reason for their social exclusion. Women don't like ugliness because it signals low fitness and less survivability for their offspring.

My anecdotal experience is further proof that it's all looks.
I would say there's balance.

For example. Lookswise I am included, but sometimes i become aspie and people flame me for it.

I see uglier people with a lot more social success than me. But i wont deny that many people used to give me preference for being young looking and smily.
 
There doesn't need to be a surplus of attractive men because women share the same guys. Social utility is synonymous with the genetic value of the individual.


This is a complete and utter lie. Ugly guys will never get invited to house parties or other types of social venues by females. Out of chance, if ugly guys managed to make friends with attractive males and the attractive male friend brought the ugly guy to the party unannounced, he'd get third wheeled and ignored by all of the females at the party.
You are delusional. Guy who get girls is not gonna jump through hoops(of going to parties) like you are saying so. In reality, many guys have their own parties, which include ugly guys and lots of girls too.

Generally it works through social utility ugly guy befriending the guy who can bring girls
 
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We both think that being ugly affects social skills and environment can cause autism/social retardation, but I think there also exists autism that's genetic caused by brain development
The genetic variance of autism is expressed via the inability of the sufferer to take care of themselves, because of genetic malfunctions, that have made the brain develope in an damaged and non functional way, hence autistic like behaviour existing from birth.


To clarify my original post was not referring to autism caused solely by brain development, I just used autism as a term for people with poor social skills, I believe people would want to be friends with people with poor social skills less than people with good social skills (excluding looks). And I think that despite being ugly, someone can still has the potential to make friends and connections but they will struggle more than an attractive person and it's less likely to occur
I agree to disagree. The sole reason they have impaired social skills is down to their ugliness and its ramifications. This is known as the negative feedback loop. Once impairment takes places, it's near impossible for the person to socially connect with other people nor do people want to connect with low tier LMS people. Even other incels will reject fellow ugly men because 'lookism' is so hardwired that even ugly guys laugh at the suffering of other ugly people. Like how DBDR made a video laughing at other sub humans. The only way out of this, I believe, is for said person to drastically improve their physical attractiveness, take psychedelics and go to acting class. Anything outside of this is cope. Ugly men get used for their money and status. Meanwhile, broke good looking men get to pair bond with attractive women.
 
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The genetic variance of autism is expressed via the inability of the sufferer to take care of themselves, because of genetic malfunctions, that have made the brain develope in an damaged and non functional way, hence autistic like behaviour existing from birth.



I agree to disagree. The sole reason they have impaired social skills is down to their ugliness and its ramifications. This is known as the negative feedback loop. Once impairment takes places, it's near impossible for the person to socially connect with other people. And they won't want to connect with a person who's low in LMS. Even other incels will reject fellow ugly men because 'lookism' is so hardwired that even ugly guys laugh at the suffering of other ugly people. Like how DBDR made a video laughing at other sub humans. The only way out of this, I believe, is for said person to drastically improve their physical attractiveness, take psychedelics and go to acting class. Anything outside of this is cope. Ugly men get used for their money and status. Meanwhile, broke good looking men get to pair bond with attractive women.
I agree with surgeries and drugs, I don't think it's worth socializing if you're ugly. I have just seen ugly people irl put in high effort socially and get something out of it, not much but social circles and connections at least which makes me think its possible but unlikely. Some people can just push through being physically undesirable given certain circumstances, maybe the main person I'm think of being 6'1 is the factor that pushes him into that group, but that's only a few inches above average
 
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You are delusional. Guy who get girls is not gonna jump through hoops(of going to parties) like you are saying so.
You've completely misread what I said. Parties = opportunities to score with high tier chicks. The attractive males being invited to the parties shows that they aren't jumping through hoops.


Generally it works through social utility ugly guy befriending the guy who can bring girls
Social utility is measured by looks, money and status of the person.
 
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Nigger? Watch your mouth, boy. Guys rating other guys is giga cringe. Autistics will look 'off' due to their differing genetic make up compared to neurotypicals.
You are not getting what im saying. The guy is autistic MENTALLY not physically.
 
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Friendships and social connections are 100% based on how you look. If you're ugly you can only associate with other ugly people and social outcasts, you'll never break into the popular social circle (or even the normal ones)
 
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You are not getting what im saying. The guys is autistic MENTALLY not physically.


Nope. Ugliness causes neglect and abuse, consequently, the person develops autistic like tendencies. A good looking guy who's a social retard because of being ugly and abused during early childhood, will not be excluded socially when his looks change for the better during puberty despite his autistic tendancies.
 
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'This is especially true with childhood PTSD. Awareness of PTSD in children has been fairly limited until recently, which means symptoms can sometimes be mistaken for more familiar childhood diagnoses. For example, a child’s response to trauma can sometimes mirror the signs of Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). What look like typical autistic traits, such as repetitive play, difficulty communicating with others, or outbursts of anger or frustration, might actually be the child’s way of dealing with intrusive thoughts and feelings after trauma.'

Ugliness = abused = PTSD = autistic like tendancies but without actually being born autistic = social withdrawal because of being ugly = false autism diagnosis. Ugliness was the root cause. It has nothing to do with 'muh autism' being born.

Legitimately born autistics who become attractive will be socially accepted if they become attractive during puberty. Their autistic behaviour will not stop them from being socially accepted due to the halo affect.

 
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The genetic variance of autism is expressed via the inability of the sufferer to take care of themselves, because of genetic malfunctions, that have made the brain develope in an damaged and non functional way,
Therefore, it is crucial to selectively choose genes to avoid it. You can't predict the specific psychotic traits they might have, and moreover, they may not be concerned about how their psychopathic tendencies could harm those around them.
 
Normies care if you provide value to them if they associate with you. In the context of friendships that value usually takes the form of companionship, emotional support, ability to entertain each other, social validation (i.e. they feel confident in their friendship with you, they don't wonder about whether you're a weirdo who society would disapprove of and who makes them look weird to others) etc., and you need to be NT for that.
all of those are important, but they are more of female traits than male traits

share interests and hobbies,
this is the main aspect that drives male friendships: common activities, goals and leisure
 
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