There Could Be Tiers To The Blackpill

[enchanted_elixir]

Not going to write a large essay on the interesting rat experiments since this can easily be explained by this video.


TLDR.

Areas with high population density (many people in an area) and high interaction (something as simple as seeing someone, even online or on a newspaper counts as an interaction, independent of if they know them or not) creates inequality. The more dense and the more interactions, the worse the inequality.

This is because, if there's a group of 5 people, things are more equal in every domain compared to if there were 500, or 5 million or 5 billion. The more people, the more outliers there are. These outliers create inequality (economic, dating, etc.)

The population density allows people to see the gap of their situation to their outliers. This outlier affects the normie.

High population creates outliers.
High population density allows people to be aware of the outliers.

These environments created what John B. Calhoun called "behavioral sinks". Basically, a behavioral sink is a collapse in productive social behavior, where increased negative emotions, disrupted social structures, and abnormal behaviors prevail.

The rats formed social and dating hierarchies, Chads got the women and the non-Chads usually either...

• Developed non-straight sexualities
• Became timid, weak, apathetic, withdrawn asexual hikikomoris/neets (adolescents and young adults who become recluses in their parents' homes, isolated from society)
• Or desperate, erratic and unsuccessful (pickup autists and redpill roaches)

Chads became aggressive, and since the non-Chads were all withdrawn from society and responsibility, the women had to fend for themselves and protect Chad's children (with humans, it's either the cucked normie's child or she's childless, since Chad doesn't want to reproduce with her, only sex). The female rats became aggressive, neglectful of their children, and non-motherly.

Infant mortality rose due to neglect, male and female rats gave up on dating due to discontent and negative emotions, birth rates dropped, and the new and smaller children grew up to be asexual since they never really learned sexual behaviors due to their parents giving up on mating. The rat society aged to death due to population collapse and low birth rates.

Of course, this isn't perfectly applicable to humans, remember that. For humans, economic, and other kinds of inequalities also play a major role in behavioral sinks, but if if the trajectory of society keeps going where it's going, we could very well get a comparable result as human beings to what the rats got. Birth rates are plummeting and our societies are mentally ill, just like the rats.

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Anyways, Why am I showing you all of this?

Because dating environments differ in blackpill severities. Due to population density and population count.
There could be "tiers" to the blackpill.

Basically, in some dating environments, you'll need to literally be perfect, in other environments, you have to be HTN at least.
Also, consider that the fact that dating environments men and women have been in the past also can influence their mating decisions.

So here's the chart I created explaining this theory

You probably should download that image, so you can have it for yourself.

This thread doesn't imply that blackpill only exists in broken societies. Blackpill will always exist, and has always existed.
It is just that new dating environments have been created that are characterized by terrifying sexual-romantic inequality (the Internet)

 

[schizo echochamber]

Truthpilled, there’s no way this severe blackpill level is sustainable long term and it will eventually end badly on a hard reset. Good thread boyo.

 

[schizo echochamber]

Inb4 dnrd fags

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Truthpilled, there’s no way this severe blackpill level is sustainable long term and it will eventually end badly on a hard reset. Good thread boyo.

Thank you, appreciate it!

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Truthpilled, there’s no way this severe blackpill level is sustainable long term and it will eventually end badly on a hard reset. Good thread boyo.

When you mean severe, do you mean Blackpill Level 5? Level 4?

 

[GabachoCopium]

dnr

 

[Latens Deitas]

tldr: proceeds to write an essay, anyways will read later

 

[enchanted_elixir]

dnr

There's a good likelihood you skimmed the whole thing, and I know it.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

tldr: proceeds to write an essay, anyways will read later

That isn't an essay, my guides are essays though lol

 

[GabachoCopium]

There's a good likelihood you skimmed the whole thing, and I know it.

i just read the picture of the bottom that’s it, i’m too faded right now to read a whole book you feel me mane

 

[schizo echochamber]

When you mean severe, do you mean Blackpill Level 5? Level 4?

4-5, as the internet reaches every single and last rural towns in the world, making it basically impossible to date and recurring to AI or like japan (mainly big cities like Tokyo level 4-5), paying for girlfriends en masse.

 

[dreamcake1mo]

This is perfectly applicable to humans. Very good thread

 

[SA7]

tldr: fuck this world

 

[Latens Deitas]

we are the rats on the 3rd group, over for us

 

[enchanted_elixir]

4-5, as the internet reaches every single and last rural towns in the world, making it basically impossible to date and recurring to AI or like japan (mainly big cities like Tokyo level 4-5), paying for girlfriends en masse.

Yeah, on top of that, the internet isn't going anywhere.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

we are the rats on the 3rd group, over for us

Only looksmaxing is our escape.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

tldr: fuck this world

I did feel that way to be honest.

 

[Banasura]

Certain societal factors also play into the overall experience and market, for example, western countries or those that are becoming more autisticly liberalized use dating and sex/romance to enforce conformity and preferred types of assimilation, inceldom is often used as a punishment of sorts in highly manipulated dating scenes or circles, this is also extremely important.

 

[Deleted member 30979]

This is why sexually liberal societies never survive, meanwhile the Amish population:

 

[Matheus]

Looksmaxxing is the most logical option right now but everyone should be aware that it's playing into the behavioral sink of a collapsing and ill society.

The true long term collective solution is not looksmaxxing. If everyone looksmaxes then you get the top 20% will be even more genetics based and out of reach. The true long term solution is for society to fucking collapse at this point, so we can start fresh.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

This thread doesn't imply that blackpill only exists in broken societies. Blackpill will always exist, and has always existed.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Looksmaxxing is the most logical option right now but everyone should be aware that it's playing into the behavioral sink of a collapsing and ill society.

The true long term collective solution is not looksmaxxing. If everyone looksmaxes then you get the top 20% will be even more genetics based and out of reach. The true long term solution is for society to fucking collapse at this point, so we can start fresh.

And the cycle will repeat over and over again JFL.

 

[Kamui]

Great thread OP

 

[Matheus]

And the cycle will repeat over and over again JFL.

Such is life. Do you know that before the french revolution the aristocrats were extremely focused on their looks, wore makup, wigs, etc?

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Great thread OP

I appreciate it! What made it insightful?

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Such is life. Do you know that before the french revolution the aristocrats were extremely focused on their looks, wore makup, wigs, etc?

Interesting.
Cycles exist because we're collectively flawed and keep creating the conditions for our demise over and over again.

 

[Matheus]

Interesting.
Cycles exist because we're collectively flawed and keep creating the conditions for our demise over and over again.

Yes and no. It's mainly inherited comfort. The first generation of a new society and a new paradigm are pioneers and work their asses off to build something great. The next few generations share this vision and build upon that. At some point the generation of pioneers becomes too far removed and people forget the hard work that gave us comfort, security and purpose so over time they become critical of the founding values of their own society and slowly destroy it.

There's other factors as well, mainly economic cycles, especially interest lending (usury) and geopolitical factors like reserve currencies.
Check out "Sir John Glubb on the Fate of Empires", Spengler or Ray Dalio for info on that. It's pretty interesting, and it's the reason why I always tell people to looksmax sure, but more importantly to build and/or join offline communities.

 

[kanderior]

Yeah, the black pill (of this level), women's increasingly dysfunctional and entitled behavior, men's declining masculinity, etc. are all symptoms of civilizational collapse. Life has become too comfortable and our brains haven't evolved for it.

 

[kanderior]

Yes and no. It's mainly inherited comfort. The first generation of a new society and a new paradigm are pioneers and work their asses off to build something great. The next few generations share this vision and build upon that. At some point the generation of pioneers becomes too far removed and people forget the hard work that gave us comfort, security and purpose so over time they become critical of the founding values of their own society and slowly destroy it.

There's other factors as well, mainly economic cycles, especially interest lending (usury) and geopolitical factors like reserve currencies.
Check out "Sir John Glubb on the Fate of Empires", Spengler or Ray Dalio for info on that. It's pretty interesting, and it's the reason why I always tell people to looksmax sure, but more importantly to build and/or join offline communities.

It's the same with dynasties, and why they never last. Look at the difference in masculinity and toughness between for example Clovis, the first king of France, a badass, rugged and violent man, more like a warlord or tribal chief than a king, raping and pillaging across savage and chaotic post-Roman western Europe, and his successor 1300 years later, King Louis XVI, a soft, weak and chubby low-T man cucked by his wife raised in absolute luxury and comfort in a much more civilized and comfortable world. It's that whole adage about hard times creating strong men, strong men creating good times etc.

 

[FutureSlayer]

Looksmaxxing is the most logical option right now but everyone should be aware that it's playing into the behavioral sink of a collapsing and ill society.

The true long term collective solution is not looksmaxxing. If everyone looksmaxes then you get the top 20% will be even more genetics based and out of reach. The true long term solution is for society to fucking collapse at this point, so we can start fresh.

Never gonna happen in our lifetime sadly

 

[Matheus]

Never gonna happen in our lifetime sadly

I wouldn't be so sure of that
On top of looksmaxxing everyone should be communitymaxxing

 

[FutureSlayer]

I wouldn't be so sure of that
On top of looksmaxxing everyone should be communitymaxxing

where

 

[kanderior]

Looksmaxxing is the most logical option right now but everyone should be aware that it's playing into the behavioral sink of a collapsing and ill society.

The true long term collective solution is not looksmaxxing. If everyone looksmaxes then you get the top 20% will be even more genetics based and out of reach. The true long term solution is for society to fucking collapse at this point, so we can start fresh.

There's always the option of reversing liberalism and returning to traditional structures. It happened in Iran, Afghanistan, Rome after the fall of the Republic, France after the Revolution etc. Very rare, but there are examples of societies rejecting or resisting modernity and going from liberal to more conservative cultures.

 

[Matheus]

where

Anywhere. I can't say for me obv as I won't dox myself. Where do you live (ie city, small town...)?

 

[FutureSlayer]

Anywhere. I can't say for me obv as I won't dox myself. Where do you live (ie city, small town...)?

city

 

[Matheus]

There's always the option of reversing liberalism and returning to traditional structures. It happened in Iran, Afghanistan, Rome after the fall of the Republic, France after the Revolution etc. Very rare, but there are examples of societies rejecting or resisting modernity and going from liberal to more conservative cultures.

There are some exceptional circumstances where it can happen. Right now it's 100% impossible for the West, too many variables have been skewed and can't be turned back. We need a full reset with a new vision that's more sustainable and healthy

 

[Matheus]

city

Europe or US? Exact country would help too

 

[FutureSlayer]

Europe or US? Exact country would help too

italy

 

[Matheus]

italy

Join Casapound JFL
I say JFL but it's probably a decent option tbh. Usually in cities political communities are the best and most useful

 

[ezio6]

Not going to write a large essay on the interesting rat experiments since this can easily be explained by this video.


TLDR.

Areas with high population density (many people in an area) and high interaction (something as simple as seeing someone, even online or on a newspaper counts as an interaction, independent of if they know them or not) creates inequality. The more dense and the more interactions, the worse the inequality.

This is because, if there's a group of 5 people, things are more equal in every domain compared to if there were 500, or 5 million or 5 billion. The more people, the more outliers there are. These outliers create inequality (economic, dating, etc.)

The population density allows people to see the gap of their situation to their outliers. This outlier affects the normie.

High population creates outliers.
High population density allows people to be aware of the outliers.

These environments created what John B. Calhoun called "behavioral sinks". Basically, a behavioral sink is a collapse in productive social behavior, where increased negative emotions, disrupted social structures, and abnormal behaviors prevail.

The rats formed social and dating hierarchies, Chads got the women and the non-Chads usually either...

• Developed non-straight sexualities
• Became timid, weak, apathetic, withdrawn asexual hikikomoris/neets (adolescents and young adults who become recluses in their parents' homes, isolated from society)
• Or desperate, erratic and unsuccessful (pickup autists and redpill roaches)

Chads became aggressive, and since the non-Chads were all withdrawn from society and responsibility, the women had to fend for themselves and protect Chad's children (with humans, it's either the cucked normie's child or she's childless, since Chad doesn't want to reproduce with her, only sex). The female rats became aggressive, neglectful of their children, and non-motherly.

Infant mortality rose due to neglect, male and female rats gave up on dating due to discontent and negative emotions, birth rates dropped, and the new and smaller children grew up to be asexual since they never really learned sexual behaviors due to their parents giving up on mating. The rat society aged to death due to population collapse and low birth rates.

Of course, this isn't perfectly applicable to humans, remember that. For humans, economic, and other kinds of inequalities also play a major role in behavioral sinks, but if if the trajectory of society keeps going where it's going, we could very well get a comparable result as human beings to what the rats got. Birth rates are plummeting and our societies are mentally ill, just like the rats.

---

Anyways, Why am I showing you all of this?

Because dating environments differ in blackpill severities. Due to population density and population count.
There could be "tiers" to the blackpill.

Basically, in some dating environments, you'll need to literally be perfect, in other environments, you have to be HTN at least.
Also, consider that the fact that dating environments men and women have been in the past also can influence their mating decisions.

So here's the chart I created explaining this theory

View attachment 2550624

You probably should download that image, so you can have it for yourself.

This thread doesn't imply that blackpill only exists in broken societies. Blackpill will always exist, and has always existed.
It is just that new dating environments have been created that are characterized by terrifying sexual-romantic inequality (the Internet)

Bro just explained why passportbros were right all along with "muh science"

 

[Matheus]

It's the same with dynasties, and why they never last. Look at the difference in masculinity and toughness between for example Clovis, the first king of France, a badass, rugged and violent man, more like a warlord or tribal chief than a king, raping and pillaging across savage and chaotic post-Roman western Europe, and his successor 1300 years later, King Louis XVI, a soft, weak and chubby low-T man cucked by his wife raised in absolute luxury and comfort in a much more civilized and comfortable world. It's that whole adage about hard times creating strong men, strong men creating good times etc.

Yes exactly, although Clovis and Louis XVI are of two different dynasties
Funnily enough French dynasties correlate very well with the 250 years (10 generations) that John Glubb spoke about

 

[FutureSlayer]

Join Casapound JFL
I say JFL but it's probably a decent option tbh. Usually in cities political communities are the best and most useful

low iq boomers rednecks, what should I do there lmao

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Bro just explained why passportbros were right all along with "muh science"

What do you mean?

 

[Matheus]

low iq boomers rednecks, what should I do there lmao

Political communities in cities are among the best bc of increased kinship and alternative worldview. My point is that useful communities are ones that either expect or are built to withstand societal collapse. Casapound does social stuff IIRC which is prob among the most useful stuff you can do in cities, and they're not leftist.
If you lived in a smaller town or rural area I would say anti-globalization communities are best. They also have this idea of alternative worldview and are often intertwined with farmer cooperatives and alternative means of food procurement.

 

[tombradylover]

Good thread but online it’s all about ur facial attractiveness. Irl body and height become more apparent

 

[Deleted member 43403]

What do you mean?

I believe @ezio6 is talking about Geomaxxing.

 

[blatonslatt]

bullshit

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Good thread but online it’s all about ur facial attractiveness. Irl body and height become more apparent

As if people are taking mugshots on Tinder.
If you don't have your height, women will estimate your height before swiping right or they'll ask you.
Women won't be making dating decisions without such crucial info.
And women will be able to see and judge your body from your pictures.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

I believe @ezio6 is talking about Geomaxxing.

Geomaxing is for losers. The locals know this. Plus, it's still like blackpill level 3 or 4 unless haloed.

 

[bimaxenthusiast]

repeating what I posted in another somewhat relevant thread

High IQ thread, you've explained something I've felt for while.

I'd even go far enough to argue that it's not just dating, and that capitalism is a key contributor to this phenomenon since in a perfect world, higher population density shouldn't be a problem since more people = more opportunities/consumption, but we all know thats not true since trickle down theory is the biggest fucking kek of the 21st century.

So if increases in population density aren't yielding an equivalent number of opportunities, then competition for that limited pool of opportunities will only increase more and more over time, which brings us to where we are today.

Ignoring the Internet and looking at highly blackpilled societies like Korea, you can see what happens when the rich (Chaebols) get control over more and more opportunities until they basically can run the entire society by drip feeding access to resources to whoever they want. Korea is a country where its fucking over if you don't get a job at Samsung JFL.

Imagine a society getting so competitive that everyone has to fucking surgerymax as a minimum to have a chance at being a wageslave because there's no other way to differentiate yourself. Or maybe don't, because that's where the rest of the world is headed towards right now as well - Asia just did it a lot faster than the rest of the world due to their high population density.