This Marketing & Sales video. Has almost 1-on-1 resemblance with Dating & chatting up women

[eduardkoopman]

Great video, about Marketing and Sales. Which alsmost totally also apllies for dating.

Marketing in dating is: Making yourself most attractive product, and putting it out there (people know you (what you do, soical contact-circle, etc..), online pressence, etc...
Sales in dating is: ways you meet new women, whom you try to bring in your pipeline/marketing/"sales funnel".

1. Buyers in heat in dating: is a chick that likes your looks and is horny and wants you asap. (rare if you're not a Chad)
2. Buyers in power in dating: is a chick that is interested but has more similar options like you and they are shopping around, so you try to make yourself the best option she has.
3 (LuckyLose) Tyre kickers in dating: is a chick that is not interested in you but is there for other reasons. Like she is loking for attention that she doesn't get from her boyfriend, or free meals, or free attention, or etc.. Biggest time waisters (most friendzone-stories are women that are this type).
4. Mistakes in dating: is a chick that is not interested in you, and she lets it know.
Imo, any time spend on number 3 and 4 type of women is a waiste. You gotta be looking for numer 1 and 2 type of women.
I find guys that say you should never appraoch women, they basically only accept buyers for you that are the number 1 type (and women that has the balls to do that)


The salesfunnel for dating is, imo: weed out the uninterested, and the ones that vain interest in you for reasons like wanting free-meals. Then you have hopefully left: the women that are very hot for you, and want you asap (rare for normies to see happen). And the women that are interested in you, but also have other options so they are not in hurry to choice to go with you and they are playing the field (i gues this is when "game" matters).

When you try to date. You are basically trying to Market and sell yourself. Now if you're a shitty product (aka ugly and stuff) it's going to be a hard thing to sell.

It's good to think about, how you are going to market yourself. And what the sales-funnel is you have for yourself. Ideally, your looks does all the work, that would be most easy.
This video also shows, nd talks about. How randomly chatting up women or other ways you try to meet women, is just an extra way to try to get women into the sales-funnel where you "sell" yourself. So, I don't see the dogging on randonly chatting up women. It's the hardest way to get women into your sales-funnel. But it's still okay if you can get them in your sales funnel.


The best marketing for the youngsters nowadays, is likely to have a massive online/soical media following and pressence. That can be the best marketing of yourself. That Dan Balzerian dude had it down perfectly, he likely had a massive online pressence on instagram or whatever; with all kinds ofawesome videos/pictures selling himself.



Often great sales people and marketers, have little problem in dating.

Because they know, they have to try to make themself into a good/decent product.
Then they know, they have to create a way, to market or present themselfes in goo way.
And then they know, how to meet enough women and bring the good ones into their "pipeline".

 

[Selfahate]

High iq
Life is all about genetics and the people and experiences you have. In your school

 

[ElliotRodgerJr]

Autism

 

[Deleted member 4209]

tfw oneitis is the 4th option

 

[Deleted member 4804]

High iq but its over.

 

[eduardkoopman]

tfw oneitis is the 4th option

whatever it is, 4th or 3rd option. Both 4th and 3rd option, needs to be gotten rid off asap. Dumped, out of life and mind. Every second spend on that, is a second waisted.

Autism

Autists usually 100% suck at marketing and selling themselfes. Even if they have a decent "product", as in that they look well.

High iq but its over.

True, if you are a shit product. Which in dating means, you look ugly. Because then there are no buyers for you, no buyers in heat and no buyers in power. There are then only "tyre kickers" and blantently uninterested women.

 

[eduardkoopman]

A great video about buyers in power, aka women that are okay with the idea of you fucking her. But she also needs other positives and make sure certain negatives are not there, before she does such a thing. And about, how this is also based on a famel her personality.
This is where most interested women are at ime, for normies. They need to be sold a bit on the idea of you.
This video also is imo 100% applicable to dating (this guy in the video is good ime. And often sales/marketing people give better (hidden) dating advice then dating coaches). It's maybe just, that most guys don't dare to see thimselfes as a product/service, to sell to women.



His basic advice here.
women whom are interested in your (really), but not in a hurry and in power. You gotta focus on, if you try to sell yourself to her.
1. what she wants/likes (hopefully you figured that out already, or can see it, or generally know); and waht she dislikes. Then you try to communicate those good sides, and take away objections she might have.
2. you need to figure out, what type of person she is. does she needs alot of good reasons before she goes with a guy, or will she run away with 1 negative reason already. If she's overly picky, aim to gently steer her away from that concept of pickiness, and paint for example a good picture about the adventurous lifestyle of going with postives instead of focussing on problems. etc.. whatever a dude wants to try, to seetp get her on board.

 

[Enlil]

interesting.

 

[Chadelite]

Great video, about Marketing and Sales. Which alsmost totally also apllies for dating.

Marketing in dating is: Making yourself most attractive product, and putting it out there (people know you (what you do, soical contact-circle, etc..), online pressence, etc...
Sales in dating is: ways you meet new women, whom you try to bring in your pipeline/marketing/"sales funnel".

1. Buyers in heat in dating: is a chick that likes your looks and is horny and wants you asap. (rare if you're not a Chad)
2. Buyers in power in dating: is a chick that is interested but has more similar options like you and they are shopping around, so you try to make yourself the best option she has.
3 (LuckyLose) Tyre kickers in dating: is a chick that is not interested in you but is there for other reasons. Like she is loking for attention that she doesn't get from her boyfriend, or free meals, or free attention, or etc.. Biggest time waisters (most friendzone-stories are women that are this type).
4. Mistakes in dating: is a chick that is not interested in you, and she lets it know.
Imo, any time spend on number 3 and 4 type of women is a waiste. You gotta be looking for numer 1 and 2 type of women.
I find guys that say you should never appraoch women, they basically only accept buyers for you that are the number 1 type (and women that has the balls to do that)


The salesfunnel for dating is, imo: weed out the uninterested, and the ones that vain interest in you for reasons like wanting free-meals. Then you have hopefully left: the women that are very hot for you, and want you asap (rare for normies to see happen). And the women that are interested in you, but also have other options so they are not in hurry to choice to go with you and they are playing the field (i gues this is when "game" matters).

When you try to date. You are basically trying to Market and sell yourself. Now if you're a shitty product (aka ugly and stuff) it's going to be a hard thing to sell.

It's good to think about, how you are going to market yourself. And what the sales-funnel is you have for yourself. Ideally, your looks does all the work, that would be most easy.
This video also shows, nd talks about. How randomly chatting up women or other ways you try to meet women, is just an extra way to try to get women into the sales-funnel where you "sell" yourself. So, I don't see the dogging on randonly chatting up women. It's the hardest way to get women into your sales-funnel. But it's still okay if you can get them in your sales funnel.


The best marketing for the youngsters nowadays, is likely to have a massive online/soical media following and pressence. That can be the best marketing of yourself. That Dan Balzerian dude had it down perfectly, he likely had a massive online pressence on instagram or whatever; with all kinds ofawesome videos/pictures selling himself.



Often great sales people and marketers, have little problem in dating.

Because they know, they have to try to make themself into a good/decent product.
Then they know, they have to create a way, to market or present themselfes in goo way.
And then they know, how to meet enough women and bring the good ones into their "pipeline".

so basically

be chad

 

[eduardkoopman]

interesting.

You might need marketing skill, when you want to and can sell your arts in the future.

so basically

be chad

That's the best obviously.
Having Chad looks, is like having an awesome product.


But marketing and selling yourself, is a necesairy or good skill for anyone below Chad looks to get some actions. Chad is like 5% of the population or something? Maybe 15% if being generous. And like 35% of men are really ugly orso.
Well the 50% of men in between those 2 extremes, that's when marketing and selling skills matter. Because 50+% of the dating world is nromie-range men competing with each other for women in the bottom 75% orso.

Fucking low iq shit always.
Wiht the answer to everything being: "be chad"; "only looks matter, be Chad"; "Chad doesn't have to, so cope". Like asif people can't grasp concepts, that are longer then 1 sentence. And can't see grey area's, and only the (simple) extreme ends.

 

[eduardkoopman]

How to go about selling someting = knowing how to go about dating for your situation (aka your "product" quality level).

intro
Plenty people can't be rational, and pragmatic. When it comes to go about dating. Due to ego, and feeling. Hence they come up with all kinds of cope ways off going about dating, to avoid admitting the are selling a shitty product (aka they are low value SMV person)

That's why. I enjoyed typing out the scenario where one own 1 car, and one tries to sell it. And in each scenario, the car one tries to sell, basically represents one SMV value to women.

This also shows. Why 1 strategy off going about dating, is dumb as shit concept. Because the product quality matters alot in the factor on hwo to go about selling it. That's also why normies looks levels dudes here are wrong, when they adopt the dating strategy that fitts a Chad (for example: Chad can do nothing and women go up to him, so that's why I stay passive maxxed also).

Basic sales process of a car.
For example selling 1 car.

* Step 1: assess someone actually wants a or another car, or not at all!
A. chat with randoms if they want another car, high change thay aren’t.
B. if they contact you first about it, 99% they are looking for another car.
C. if at a cars show, dealership, car trade shop, or in a social setting the car comes up, 50/50 they are wanting to buy something


* Step 2. Assess what type of car someone wants, and if your car fits that.

* Step 3. objections, problems, hurdles management.
Taking them issues away, concerns they have causing them to not buy. identify their issues, why not wanna buy yet. Take time and effort to solve the objections, take 2 steps back, go back to their original want for another car, negotiate about stuff, come to terms with each other

Step 4. close

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NOW.
How does on go about selling:
A. Ferrari for a cheap/great price
B. BMW 2017 for a cheap/great price
C. Toyota 2010 in decent shape, for a cheap/great price
D. Hyundai 2000 in very used shape, for a hceap/great price
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A. Ferrari for cheap/great deal.
Everyone wants a Ferrari for cheap. Easy to sell.

* In step 1 option A. Even people NOT looking for another car will appriciate the random offer, and may even change their mind on the spot.
* In step 1, option B. may happen more/a lot. People come up to you. if put in online a full inbox
* In step 1 option C. Most people will want

* Step 2, everyone wants a Ferrari it always fits all people. for use or for quick flipping.

* Step 3, limited objections
* Step 4, easy close

Conclusion. GO Whichever way about it, one likes. It will work and sell. each way has it's pros and cons.

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B. BMW 2017 in good shape, for cheap/great deal.
Mostwants a BMW for cheap. Easy to sell.

* In step 1 option A. Most people NOT looking for another car will appriciate the random offer, and a few may even change their mind on the spot.
* In step 1, option B. may happen some times. People come up to you. if put in online, a well filled inbox.
* In step 1 option C. A good portion of people will want

* Step 2, some may reject, because the BMW is not fitting for their lifestyle, wants, etc.. Not everyone is into that type of car, though most are

* Step 3, some objections
* Step 4, should still be kinda easy to close

Conclusion. GO Whichever way about it, one likes. It will work and sell. each way has it's pros and cons.
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C. Toyota 2010 in decent shape, for cheap/great deal.
Some people want a Toyota in decent shape for cheap. Not easy to sell, but should sell at some point.

* In step 1 option A. Most people NOT looking for another car will NOT appriciate the random offer, and maybe a few may be willing to take a short look if it's any decent but they will be likely very unmotivated. it's not a car that is bought with feeling/passion, but for practical reasons.
* In step 1, option B. almost NEVER People come up to you. if put in online, a few messages should hit the inbox. Most messages are probably low effort lowballs.
* In step 1 option C. Most people will not want, but a percentage will be willig to take a look.

* Step 2, most will reject, because the Toyota is not fitting for their lifestyle, wants, ridiculous lowball offer, etc..
* Step 3, alot of objections, and problems are thrown in. they bitch about the scratch, they want the history of maintenance, they botch about fuel consumption, they want know customer reviews of this model, etc... One needs to be able to deal with plenty objections managements
* Step 4, should be able to sell at some point. But it's been an annoying process.

Conclusion. How to go about it?
Option A = Giga time inefficient and high rejection, so don't do that way.
Option B = Putting some online, but stay low effort and limit time. mostly online one will get time waisting replies. Randoms will obviously never approach you about your car.
Option C = Best option, as in you will be able to find the best quality wise buyers. It's still annoying, but you have some room with some occassionally to work the objections and move towards a close.

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D. Hyundai 2000 in very used shape.
No one wants a Hyundai 2010 in very used shape, not even for for cheap. Not easy to sell, giving it away for free won't even work most of the time.

* In step 1 option A. Most people will NOT appriciate the random offer, Plnety will be offended thinking how you dare to think they are thus broke/poor that they would need to drive such a car. A very few random broke n** may be willing to take a short look tbut they will be likely very unmotivated. They probably offer 50 cents.
* In step 1, option B. NEVER People come up to you. if put in online, a very few messages should hit the inbox. All messages are probably low effort lowballs.
* In step 1 option C. 99+% people will not want, but a small perceantge of broke n** maybe will be willig to take a look and offer you nothing or 1 dollah.

* Step 2, most will reject and be disgusted, they reject becaus not fitting for their lifestyle, wants,, etc..
* Step 3, alot of objections, and problems are thrown in.
* Step 4, celibrate if a sale happens. it's been an GIGA annoying process.

Conclusion. How to go about it?
It's over, basically. Best option is having a thick skin. And if one lucks out, hold on to that lucky shot as long as possible

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In dating.

What car are you???

A difference in dating and car sales.
You are not the product, when you sell a car. You are the salesman and than there is the product
But when it comes to dating. You are the product and the salesman in One.
A woman thus immideately assess the product, in dating!

For the rest, it's kinda the same. imo.

I think from above exmaples with cars.
One can translate to: How to go about dating in the practical sense.

Sales concepts, has much better ideas and concepts, than dating coach concepts.

 

[The Dude Abides]

Good stuff. Very practical advice.