Ultimate jaw implant material = titanium or Peek/resin ?

Wich is better ?

  • Titanium

  • Peek/resin


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Wich is the best and why ?

Titanium seems to be the most expensive, but claims to have the best definition

Peek is also praised but idk why

can someone explain in details the pro coins of each ?
 
just apply hydrogen fucking fluoride
 
i thought titanium was the best material cause it was the closest to real bone structure and end up fusionate with it.
Also titanium is the strongest so can provide the best definition

yet some people claims that peek is better than titanium but without proving anything
 
i thought titanium was the best material cause it was the closest to real bone structure and end up fusionate with it.
Also titanium is the strongest so can provide the best definition

yet some people claims that peek is better than titanium but without proving anything
Both are good.
Titanium is more expensive which is the determining factor for me tbf.
 
Both are good.
Titanium is more expensive which is the determining factor for me tbf.
yeah, but why more exepensive ?

what are pro ans cons for peek and titanium ?
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yeah, but why more exepensive ?

what are pro ans cons for peek and titanium ?
ty

Pros:

  1. Biocompatibility: Titanium is highly biocompatible, meaning it is well-tolerated by the human body. It forms a strong bond with the surrounding bone, promoting osseointegration, which allows the implant to become a permanent part of the body.
  2. Corrosion-resistant: Titanium implants are resistant to corrosion and do not react with bodily fluids or tissues. This property ensures the long-term stability and durability of the implant.
  3. High strength-to-weight ratio: Titanium is a lightweight yet exceptionally strong metal. This characteristic makes it ideal for load-bearing applications, such as in joint replacements, as it can withstand mechanical stress without being too heavy.
  4. Low allergenic potential: Titanium has a low allergenic potential, making it suitable for most patients, including those with metal allergies.
  5. Longevity: Titanium implants are known for their long-term success rates, with many lasting for decades without complications.
Cons:

  1. Cost: Titanium implants can be more expensive than other materials used in medical devices, which may affect the overall cost of the procedure.
  2. Difficulty in removal: Once integrated with the bone, titanium implants can be challenging to remove if necessary. This could present a challenge in cases of implant failure or revision surgery.
  3. Poor visibility on X-rays: Titanium is less radiopaque than other metals, making it slightly more difficult to visualize on X-rays. However, this issue can be managed with proper imaging techniques.
  4. Potential for galvanic corrosion: If a titanium implant comes into contact with another metal implant in the body, there is a slight risk of galvanic corrosion, which occurs due to the electrical potential difference between the metals. However, proper implant selection and placement can minimize this risk.
  5. Thermal conductivity: Titanium has a relatively high thermal conductivity, which can cause temperature changes around the implant during certain medical procedures.

Overall go with Titanium, but in reality surgeries are meaningless unless you are absolutely deformed
 
Pros:

  1. Biocompatibility: Titanium is highly biocompatible, meaning it is well-tolerated by the human body. It forms a strong bond with the surrounding bone, promoting osseointegration, which allows the implant to become a permanent part of the body.
  2. Corrosion-resistant: Titanium implants are resistant to corrosion and do not react with bodily fluids or tissues. This property ensures the long-term stability and durability of the implant.
  3. High strength-to-weight ratio: Titanium is a lightweight yet exceptionally strong metal. This characteristic makes it ideal for load-bearing applications, such as in joint replacements, as it can withstand mechanical stress without being too heavy.
  4. Low allergenic potential: Titanium has a low allergenic potential, making it suitable for most patients, including those with metal allergies.
  5. Longevity: Titanium implants are known for their long-term success rates, with many lasting for decades without complications.
Cons:

  1. Cost: Titanium implants can be more expensive than other materials used in medical devices, which may affect the overall cost of the procedure.
  2. Difficulty in removal: Once integrated with the bone, titanium implants can be challenging to remove if necessary. This could present a challenge in cases of implant failure or revision surgery.
  3. Poor visibility on X-rays: Titanium is less radiopaque than other metals, making it slightly more difficult to visualize on X-rays. However, this issue can be managed with proper imaging techniques.
  4. Potential for galvanic corrosion: If a titanium implant comes into contact with another metal implant in the body, there is a slight risk of galvanic corrosion, which occurs due to the electrical potential difference between the metals. However, proper implant selection and placement can minimize this risk.
  5. Thermal conductivity: Titanium has a relatively high thermal conductivity, which can cause temperature changes around the implant during certain medical procedures.

Overall go with Titanium, but in reality surgeries are meaningless unless you are absolutely deformed
thanks a lot man
wtf is the 4th cons ? how can jaw implant come into contact with another

and pros/cons of peek ?
 
Wich is the best and why ?

Titanium seems to be the most expensive, but claims to have the best definition

Peek is also praised but idk why

can someone explain in details the pro coins of each ?
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thanks a lot man
wtf is the 4th cons ? how can jaw implant come into contact with another

and pros/cons of peek ?

  1. Multiple Titanium Implants in the Same Jaw: It is common for patients to receive multiple titanium implants in the same jaw to support dental prosthetics like crowns, bridges, or dentures. Since these implants are made of the same material (titanium), they can come into contact with one another without any adverse effects. Titanium is biocompatible and does not cause any significant reactions or corrosion when in contact with itself.
  2. Titanium Implants in Different Jaws: In cases where a patient has titanium implants in both the upper and lower jaws, there may be some minimal contact between the upper and lower jaw implants. However, the contact is limited to the areas where the jaws come close together during normal jaw movement or biting, and it is generally not a cause for concern. Titanium implants are highly corrosion-resistant and do not undergo significant degradation even when in contact with other titanium components.
 
Pros:

  1. Biocompatibility: Titanium is highly biocompatible, meaning it is well-tolerated by the human body. It forms a strong bond with the surrounding bone, promoting osseointegration, which allows the implant to become a permanent part of the body.
  2. Corrosion-resistant: Titanium implants are resistant to corrosion and do not react with bodily fluids or tissues. This property ensures the long-term stability and durability of the implant.
  3. High strength-to-weight ratio: Titanium is a lightweight yet exceptionally strong metal. This characteristic makes it ideal for load-bearing applications, such as in joint replacements, as it can withstand mechanical stress without being too heavy.
  4. Low allergenic potential: Titanium has a low allergenic potential, making it suitable for most patients, including those with metal allergies.
  5. Longevity: Titanium implants are known for their long-term success rates, with many lasting for decades without complications.
Cons:

  1. Cost: Titanium implants can be more expensive than other materials used in medical devices, which may affect the overall cost of the procedure.
  2. Difficulty in removal: Once integrated with the bone, titanium implants can be challenging to remove if necessary. This could present a challenge in cases of implant failure or revision surgery.
  3. Poor visibility on X-rays: Titanium is less radiopaque than other metals, making it slightly more difficult to visualize on X-rays. However, this issue can be managed with proper imaging techniques.
  4. Potential for galvanic corrosion: If a titanium implant comes into contact with another metal implant in the body, there is a slight risk of galvanic corrosion, which occurs due to the electrical potential difference between the metals. However, proper implant selection and placement can minimize this risk.
  5. Thermal conductivity: Titanium has a relatively high thermal conductivity, which can cause temperature changes around the implant during certain medical procedures.

Overall go with Titanium, but in reality surgeries are meaningless unless you are absolutely deformed
Cons : You can't tweak titanium intra operatively.
 
  1. Multiple Titanium Implants in the Same Jaw: It is common for patients to receive multiple titanium implants in the same jaw to support dental prosthetics like crowns, bridges, or dentures. Since these implants are made of the same material (titanium), they can come into contact with one another without any adverse effects. Titanium is biocompatible and does not cause any significant reactions or corrosion when in contact with itself.
  2. Titanium Implants in Different Jaws: In cases where a patient has titanium implants in both the upper and lower jaws, there may be some minimal contact between the upper and lower jaw implants. However, the contact is limited to the areas where the jaws come close together during normal jaw movement or biting, and it is generally not a cause for concern. Titanium implants are highly corrosion-resistant and do not undergo significant degradation even when in contact with other titanium components.
Ok thanks a lot

so peek has no advantage except the cost ?
 
so peek has no advantage except the cost ?
 
PEEK mogs because it doesn't integrate with bone. Imagine wanting a revision 2-3 years after because you changed your mind about how you want to look, just to find out that the titanium implants can't be removed because they integrated too much with the bone.
Titanium implants can also cause sensitivity to cold...imagine being in a place with a cold, humid climate (maybe you want to fuck some nordic stacies there, idk) and feeling pain in your entire face continuosly...doesn't happen with PEEK.

The only benefit that titanium has is that since it is harder, the implant can be made thinner because it doesn't need the extra mass to support the screws, but this is a small difference as PEEK is already a very hard material (we ain't talking about silicone here). It is worth it for a very small, subtle change (glabella-nasion probably or very small jaw angle implants), but chances are that someone wanting an implant wants/need a more noticeable difference/larger implant, and PEEK suffices perfectly for that without any drawback.
 
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titanium is roughly half the price in Turkey, according to my surgeon
 
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PEEK mogs because it doesn't integrate with bone. Imagine wanting a revision 2-3 years after because you changed your mind about how you want to look, just to find out that the titanium implants can't be removed because they integrated too much with the bone.
Titanium implants can also cause sensitivity to cold...imagine being in a place with a cold, humid climate (maybe you want to fuck some nordic stacies there, idk) and feeling pain in your entire face continuosly...doesn't happen with PEEK.

The only benefit that titanium has is that since it is harder, the implant can be made thinner because it doesn't need the extra mass to support the screws, but this is a small difference as PEEK is already a very hard material (we ain't talking about silicone here). It is worth it for a very small, subtle change (glabella-nasion probably or very small jaw angle implants), but chances are that someone wanting an implant wants/need a more noticeable difference/larger implant, and PEEK suffices perfectly for that without any drawback.
Thanks
 

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