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There's a reason anyone who hops on TRT never hops off.
Natty in 2023 isn't even natty. It's being low testosterone.
In the hypercompetitive world of 2023 men need to be better than ever with every disadvantage against them to succeed.
Personally? I think it's totally done for in the west. We have no morals and it's the worst hypergamy the world has ever seen and the worst sense of community and belonging, men are committing suicide at rates absolutely unacceptable considering how much technology and "social" media you would think would be improving the world (it's made things worse for literally everyone).
That's my argument against being natural. I thought I needed additional androgens so I did. It's not like anyone offered me an alternative. Nobody gives a fuck if you live or die as an average male. So do what you will, you're free to die and free to live, you're irrelevant.
I personally stick with around 160mg test. Dutasteride and RU58841 year round. Actually regrew my temples despite being higher T. The main benefit isn't even physique though, it's mental state.
I always feel high T even if im tired. I have a higher quality of life and I imagine men in the past felt like this all the time.
You can certainly blast to death and get huge but you'll lose hair and it's not good for your heart.
What kind of cycles have you run? Hair is a big deal for me so I personally stick with TRT and the occasional oral turinabol for pumps and it's hair safe as well
Natty in 2023 isn't even natty. It's being low testosterone.
Testosterone levels show steady decrease among young US men
The decline in total testosterone was observed even among men with normal body mass index.
www.urologytimes.com
In the hypercompetitive world of 2023 men need to be better than ever with every disadvantage against them to succeed.
Personally? I think it's totally done for in the west. We have no morals and it's the worst hypergamy the world has ever seen and the worst sense of community and belonging, men are committing suicide at rates absolutely unacceptable considering how much technology and "social" media you would think would be improving the world (it's made things worse for literally everyone).
That's my argument against being natural. I thought I needed additional androgens so I did. It's not like anyone offered me an alternative. Nobody gives a fuck if you live or die as an average male. So do what you will, you're free to die and free to live, you're irrelevant.
I personally stick with around 160mg test. Dutasteride and RU58841 year round. Actually regrew my temples despite being higher T. The main benefit isn't even physique though, it's mental state.
I always feel high T even if im tired. I have a higher quality of life and I imagine men in the past felt like this all the time.
You can certainly blast to death and get huge but you'll lose hair and it's not good for your heart.
What kind of cycles have you run? Hair is a big deal for me so I personally stick with TRT and the occasional oral turinabol for pumps and it's hair safe as well