Why Dont More People Get MSE Despite Its Various Benefits?

[fentmaxxer289]

Ive heard MSE gives wider maxilla (duh), makes cheekbones more prominent and higher due to expansion, helps breathing, gives the mogger wide palate. so why arent people on this sub doing it. i have a slightly narrow palate (6 teeth smile), and i feel getting MSE with custom jaw implants can ascend me and almost anyone.
heres an example of the custom implant: click , his looks kinda unnatural because of his rhino, fillers etc. but i strongly believe this path has a relatively easier recovery compared to bimax

 

[mvp2v1]

Ive heard MSE gives wider maxilla (duh), makes cheekbones more prominent and higher due to expansion, helps breathing, gives the mogger wide palate. so why arent people on this sub doing it. i have a slightly narrow palate (6 teeth smile), and i feel getting MSE with custom jaw implants can ascend me and almost anyone.
heres an example of the custom implant: click , his looks kinda unnatural because of his rhino, fillers etc. but i strongly believe this path has a relatively easier recovery compared to bimax

Go out and find me 5 before and afters of people doing MSE. (6mm+) then post them here…

 

[fentmaxxer289]

CLEARLY AS SEEN IN THE LAST IMAGE THERES A HUGE IMPROVEMENT IN THE PROMINENCE OF THE ZYGOS AND IMPROEVMENT OF EYE AREA

 

[mvp2v1]

Myofunctional therapy.

 

[IndraBC]

Myofunctional therapy.

Look at the other ones tho. Especially the first guy

 

[mvp2v1]

Look at the other ones tho. Especially the first guy

First one was MSE + msdo, second one looks frauded.

And the last one looks like a mild improvement. Just bc he looks more masculine and before he looks soyboy. But idk if it’s MSE same with the second example. All the examples I have ever seen of MSE look bad.

 

[Futuresalludon]

First one was MSE + msdo, second one looks frauded.

And the last one looks like a mild improvement. Just bc he looks more masculine and before he looks soyboy. But idk if it’s MSE same with the second example. All the examples I have ever seen of MSE look bad.

what about the last one

 

[MA_ascender]

can you get this without really needing it

 

[arabirdcel]

Ive heard MSE gives wider maxilla (duh), makes cheekbones more prominent and higher due to expansion, helps breathing, gives the mogger wide palate. so why arent people on this sub doing it. i have a slightly narrow palate (6 teeth smile), and i feel getting MSE with custom jaw implants can ascend me and almost anyone.
heres an example of the custom implant: click , his looks kinda unnatural because of his rhino, fillers etc. but i strongly believe this path has a relatively easier recovery compared to bimax

I got MSE last year and the breathing benefits alone made it worth it. Aesthetically my smile is a lot better now but I had very narrow smile before. Also improved my eye area but it might be because of better sleep and head posture.

 

[fentmaxxer289]

I got MSE last year and the breathing benefits alone made it worth it. Aesthetically my smile is a lot better now but I had very narrow smile before. Also improved my eye area but it might be because of better sleep and head posture.

what were the minor changes you noticed? im still scared to get due to the asymmetry issues with the appliance.

 

[arabirdcel]

what were the minor changes you noticed? im still scared to get due to the asymmetry issues with the appliance.

Cheekbones got a little wider and I have less dark circles under my eyes, lips also looks better now. However there was definitely some asymmetry my right side expanded more and now my nose points a little to the right. Also fixing occlusion after expansion with invisalign is taking time even though I only expanded like 6mm and had crossbite before.

 

[fentmaxxer289]

Cheekbones got a little wider and I have less dark circles under my eyes, lips also looks better now. However there was definitely some asymmetry my right side expanded more and now my nose points a little to the right. Also fixing occlusion after expansion with invisalign is taking time even though I only expanded like 6mm and had crossbite before.

did your nose get wider?

 

[arabirdcel]

did your nose get wider?

I'm not sure but I do feel it got a little bit wider, especially when smiling

 

[Maalik]

I got MSE last year and the breathing benefits alone made it worth it. Aesthetically my smile is a lot better now but I had very narrow smile before. Also improved my eye area but it might be because of better sleep and head posture.

Can one patient get both MSE and bimax?

Also how is your midfacial fat?
I assume MSE should spread your fat more evenly along the midface, reducing signs of nasolabial sag.

 

[LongForgotten]

Cheekbones got a little wider and I have less dark circles under my eyes, lips also looks better now. However there was definitely some asymmetry my right side expanded more and now my nose points a little to the right. Also fixing occlusion after expansion with invisalign is taking time even though I only expanded like 6mm and had crossbite before.

How long will it take to fix your occlusion?

 

[xeqri]

I have the widest palate in the world

 

[arabirdcel]

Can one patient get both MSE and bimax?

Also how is your midfacial fat?
I assume MSE should spread your fat more evenly along the midface, reducing signs of nasolabial sag.

Yes you can get bimax after MSE. I will probably get it sometime in the future since MSE on its own doesn't help with forward growth.
I think your assumption is right about the fat spread thing I do notice some kind improvement and I look leaner despite gaining weight.

How long will it take to fix your occlusion?

about 18 months. Got to close the teeth gap, fix the tilted upper molars where the MSE was attached and upright the lower teeth to dentally widen the lower palate.

 

[LongForgotten]

Yes you can get bimax after MSE. I will probably get it sometime in the future since MSE on its own doesn't help with forward growth.
I think your assumption is right about the fat spread thing I do notice some kind improvement and I look leaner despite gaining weight.


about 18 months. Got to close the teeth gap, fix the tilted upper molars where the MSE was attached and upright the lower teeth to dentally widen the lower palate.

Would it still take that long if you just fixed the tooth rap? I'm probably not using dental attachments

 

[LongForgotten]

Yes you can get bimax after MSE. I will probably get it sometime in the future since MSE on its own doesn't help with forward growth.
I think your assumption is right about the fat spread thing I do notice some kind improvement and I look leaner despite gaining weight.


about 18 months. Got to close the teeth gap, fix the tilted upper molars where the MSE was attached and upright the lower teeth to dentally widen the lower palate.

Would it still take that long if you just fixed the tooth rap? I'm probably not using dental attachments

Yes you can get bimax after MSE. I will probably get it sometime in the future since MSE on its own doesn't help with forward growth.
I think your assumption is right about the fat spread thing I do notice some kind improvement and I look leaner despite gaining weight.


about 18 months. Got to close the teeth gap, fix the tilted upper molars where the MSE was attached and upright the lower teeth to dentally widen the lower palate.

Also, how did you do anything to make sure the lower palate would still fit along? I want mse but will probably have to do MSDO along, as my bite is already good. You said you are uprighting the lower teeth, but os that really enough to make the occlusion proper again?

 

[arabirdcel]

Would it still take that long if you just fixed the tooth rap? I'm probably not using dental attachments

Also, how did you do anything to make sure the lower palate would still fit along? I want mse but will probably have to do MSDO along, as my bite is already good. You said you are uprighting the lower teeth, but os that really enough to make the occlusion proper again?

Closing the teeth gap takes about 3-4 months of invisalign. You still need to wait to at least 6 months after MSE for the bone to heal if you want to do bimax.
I think even if you already have good bite you can still achieve up to 6mm expansion with just lower teeth uprighting. Beyond that you'll probably need some kind of surgery like MSDO.

 

[LongForgotten]

Closing the teeth gap takes about 3-4 months of invisalign. You still need to wait to at least 6 months after MSE for the bone to heal if you want to do bimax.
I think even if you already have good bite you can still achieve up to 6mm expansion with just lower teeth uprighting. Beyond that you'll probably need some kind of surgery like MSDO.

What if my lower teeth are already up properly?

 

[LongForgotten]

What if my lower teeth are already up properly?

Actually nevermind lol they're inwards bent

 

[slice]

Yes you can get bimax after MSE. I will probably get it sometime in the future since MSE on its own doesn't help with forward growth.
I think your assumption is right about the fat spread thing I do notice some kind improvement and I look leaner despite gaining weight.


about 18 months. Got to close the teeth gap, fix the tilted upper molars where the MSE was attached and upright the lower teeth to dentally widen the lower palate.

do you know if you can get mse after bimax or is it better to get it before?

 

[arabirdcel]

do you know if you can get mse after bimax or is it better to get it before?

It is possible to to do it after bimax but it will probably be harder with the plates from the surgery.