About fasting for height growth(water)

[vampmaxxer]

So, as you might know intermittent fasting increases hgh which could in turn increase your height (if your growth plates aren't closed). But fasting also decreases igf-1 which is crucial for growth. To combat this, YOU NEED TO EAT HIGH GI FOODS when not fasting. I haven't seen anyone talk about this before even though I think it's water. Ideally you would fast 16-18 hours and in the time period you have to eat, eat foods like white bread, white potatoes, white rice, rice crackers and so on, BUT don't only eat these types of foods you still need to have a balanced diet.

 

[moggr2009]

just cause certain foods have protein structures that can become hormones (tryptophan to 5-htp) doesnt mean they will become the hormone
your better off injecting igf-1+ hgh to grow

increases hgh which could in turn increase your height

just because you raise hgh doesnt always cause an increase in height
its a complex process with many hormones and other chemicals that any possibly height gain from fasting is close to 0
thats why sprinting doesnt actually make you taller via the gH pathways.

 

[Maalik]

just cause certain foods have protein structures that can become hormones (tryptophan to 5-htp) doesnt mean they will become the hormone
your better off injecting igf-1+ hgh to grow

just because you raise hgh doesnt always cause an increase in height
its a complex process with many hormones and other chemicals that any possibly height gain from fasting is close to 0
thats why sprinting doesnt actually make you taller via the gH pathways.

future BOTB poster detected

 

[Donkeyballs]

Yeah when you are starving your body releases growth hormone because it wants to grow in height! And definitely not for preserving your muscle mass, enhancing fat metabolism, supporting glucose homeostasis and Facilitating tissue repair and regeneration because your are not eating.

 

[Maalik]

Yeah when you are starving your body releases growth hormone because it wants to grow in height! And definitely not for preserving your muscle mass, enhancing fat metabolism, supporting glucose homeostasis and Facilitating tissue repair and regeneration because your are not eating.

That makes perfect sense

"Hmm. It seems there is no food. Now's the perfect time to double energy expenditure by turning this manlet into a 6,5 tank!"
- Our intelligently designed bodies apparently

 

[Braindeadautist]

Yeah when you are starving your body releases growth hormone because it wants to grow in height! And definitely not for preserving your muscle mass, enhancing fat metabolism, supporting glucose homeostasis and Facilitating tissue repair and regeneration because your are not eating.

knew this shit sounded like cope from the beginning. fasting is just starvation fuck these niggas

 

[moggr2009]

BOTB

sorry new to the forum what does botb mean



People hear growth hormone and they get a hard-on for it thinking its gonna ascend them to the skies.
But really, its a hormone for:
Regulating blood sugar (literally the main purpose)
Helping perserve muscle mass
Helping the brain grow
Sometimes as a stress hormone (released like one) when in starvation for:
Making sure you dont die
Making sure your body does not eat your muscle

In high enough dosages and if your a lucky ass manlet, you can gain an inch or so in 4 months, but that requires your body to be panicking: youd get diabetes, acromegaly if used for extended periods, and bone & blood cancer risk can increase.

gH isnt the main growth hormone, there is no main growth hormone.
growth is influenced by many hormones, some we havent even discovered.
This is why tall people arent diabetic with a fat ass schnozer.

here are the currently known lists of hormones:

Estrogen (regulates plate closure and pubertal onset)
Testeosterone (regulates plate closure and pubertal onset)
igf-1
gH
thyroid hormone
estraidol
cortisol

and a bunch of other hormones that are negligible.
it adds up.


but yes, growth hormone does have an affect on height growth, but youd need a shit ton of it.

you wanna grow?
you have to take a shit ton of it, 8ius of it, and take aromatase inhibitors.
its not a miracle hormone, its just a hormone that plays a role in your body for regulation purposes, that also has an effect on your eiphyseal plate system

 

[Rigged]

sorry new to the forum what does botb mean



People hear growth hormone and they get a hard-on for it thinking its gonna ascend them to the skies.
But really, its a hormone for:
Regulating blood sugar (literally the main purpose)
Helping perserve muscle mass
Helping the brain grow
Sometimes as a stress hormone (released like one) when in starvation for:
Making sure you dont die
Making sure your body does not eat your muscle

In high enough dosages and if your a lucky ass manlet, you can gain an inch or so in 4 months, but that requires your body to be panicking: youd get diabetes, acromegaly if used for extended periods, and bone & blood cancer risk can increase.

gH isnt the main growth hormone, there is no main growth hormone.
growth is influenced by many hormones, some we havent even discovered.
This is why tall people arent diabetic with a fat ass schnozer.

here are the currently known lists of hormones:

Estrogen (regulates plate closure and pubertal onset)
Testeosterone (regulates plate closure and pubertal onset)
igf-1
gH
thyroid hormone
estraidol
cortisol

and a bunch of other hormones that are negligible.
it adds up.


but yes, growth hormone does have an affect on height growth, but youd need a shit ton of it.

you wanna grow?
you have to take a shit ton of it, 8ius of it, and take aromatase inhibitors.
its not a miracle hormone, its just a hormone that plays a role in your body for regulation purposes, that also has an effect on your eiphyseal plate system

Nah thats js not true, u can grow way more than an inch in 4 months, also 8iu is od 5iu is good enough with other stuff like directly injecting igf + peptides like hexarelin modgrf ghrp 6/2, ipamorelin, etc. u can get insane gh increases also the affect from fasting is not worth it, people who recommend fasting are retards wether its intermitent fasting or not, there is a main growth hormone it is igf this is a known thing all the other hormones affect height not incredibly, most hormones only affect height if ur defficient, botb means best of the best or the top posts on this forum, ur unlikely to get on it as most of it is just shit stuff that the jew mods enjoyed, it is a miracle hormone, also gh isnt the only wat to grow height, im not gonna leak it but theres a few gatekept theorys on here, as height doesnt have to be influenced from the inside through gh it can be brute forced from the outside im not gonna say how

 

[moggr2009]

Nah thats js not true, u can grow way more than an inch in 4 months, also 8iu is od

i gave a baseline number, the average guranteed for most people who run hgh.
5ius is a little on the lower side but still can give results, and especially as you said with igf-1.
dont take peptides with hgh, take it after or before, you could mess up your body regulation system of endogenous vs. exogenous hgh.

there is a main growth hormone it is igf

INSULIN growth factor 1 is another insulin & blood sugar regulating hormone, similar to hgh. while it has affects on bone-density and longitudal height growth, it is still not the primary.
This is seen in taller people, who do not suffer from the affects of elevated gH because its not as elevated as injecting 8iu of gH every morning. This is because they have other hormones and sensitivity changes in there eiphyseal plates.

miracle hormone

ages you + causes diabetes and cancer.
not a mircale hormone

https://www.ceu.ox.ac.uk/news/study-of-almost-400-000-confirms-that-higher-blood-levels-of-igf-1-are-a-risk-factor-for-several-types-of-cancer

it can be brute forced from the outside im not gonna say how

pm?
i doubt it works that way. (if its like one of those cope non-scientific manifesting bullshit)

 

[Rigged]

i gave a baseline number, the average guranteed for most people who run hgh.
5ius is a little on the lower side but still can give results, and especially as you said with igf-1.
dont take peptides with hgh, take it after or before, you could mess up your body regulation system of endogenous vs. exogenous hgh.

Anything over can increasing cause soft tissue growth which with our goal for this forum which is “looksmaxing” we want to avoid any soft tissue growth, several people on this forum use hgh and peptides at the same time with no issues anectodaly, now sure there is a risk with it but its extremely rare, and 0 cases of it happening on this forum as far as i am aware

INSULIN growth factor 1 is another insulin & blood sugar regulating hormone, similar to hgh. while it has affects on bone-density and longitudal height growth, it is still not the primary.

It is the primary, ur genetically predetermined for ur height sure there is probably more things we arent aware of but as of now the primary growth factor is igf

This is seen in taller people, who do not suffer from the affects of elevated gH because its not as elevated as injecting 8iu of gH every morning. This is because they have other hormones and sensitivity changes in there eiphyseal plates.

Sure genetics>igf, ive writen a theory on gha genetic height augmentation but thats currently impossible and just theoretical

ages you + causes diabetes and cancer.
not a mircale hormone

https://www.ceu.ox.ac.uk/news/study-of-almost-400-000-confirms-that-higher-blood-levels-of-igf-1-are-a-risk-factor-for-several-types-of-cancer

Only if u already have cancer cells in ur body igf speeds it up, it doesnt age u it grows soft tissue which can make u appear older gh stimulates collagen type I so actually it gives u more collagen which would make u appear younger the issue with the aging is when u go above 4-5iu when soft tissue growth increase exponentially, it is a miracle hormone, also prediabetes can be managed as almost every gh producer causes pre diabetes, u can manage it extremely with supplements e.g. berberin

pm?
i doubt it works that way. (if its like one of those cope non-scientific manifesting bullshit)

Its not cope i know 3 methods one of them im helping someone research, so far each one has resulted with around 2 inches of growth all unrelated to the others, of course they are theoretical, but there is evidence to them to some extent and its not non scientific manifesting bs, im not a broscientist ppl here including me want to see height methods develop further

 

[Maalik]

ages you + causes diabetes and cancer.
not a mircale hormone

Actors literally take it for Anti Ageing, the diabetes part is just due to the similarity of IGF-1 to Insulin and can be mitigated, and the cancer part actually proves it does Grow human tissues.
Obviously due to the nature of cancer, anything that grows human tissue in general wil end up growing cancer too since cancer is just human cells. this is a non argument against HGH.

 

[moggr2009]

Actors literally take it for Anti Ageing

it works when your older. not when ur 17 and what to grow half an inch.

mitigated

cancer part actually proves it does Grow human tissues.

it speed up replication rate of cancerous cells, aswell as organ cells and biological functions.
It can be somewhat mitigated through dosage control, but only to a certain extent.

Anything over can increasing cause soft tissue growth which with our goal for this forum which is “looksmaxing” we want to avoid any soft tissue growth

hgh no matter what will cause soft tissue growth.
Your bones start off as soft-tissue (cartilidge), which are then replaced with calcium by depositing it.
It might be less for ears and nose, but thats genetic-based.

It is the primary, ur genetically predetermined for ur height sure there is probably more things we arent aware of but as of now the primary growth factor is igf

igf-1 has many regulating properties. The main growth protein is named "Sclerostin". This protein is essential (inverse) for bone growth.


Parathyroid hormone (PTH) increases fibroblast growth factor 23 (FGF23), which are mediated by protein kinase A (PKA) and Wnt signaling. Neither of these involve igf-1.

Scelorstin through inverse signaling (less means more growth) increases height growth.
FGF23 is also an inverse signaler it has to be in perfect balance to allow height growth, since it mediates phosphate levels in chondrocytes and fibroblasts.
PTH (Parathyroid hormone) is essential for bone growth through indirectly (again, to my point that the body has no direct growth hormone for bone calcite growth), which also has to be in perfect harmony with igf-1 and FGF23.

Thryoxine is another hormone that influences the speed of growth.

Bone growth is not as simple as
Increase IGF-1 and you grow!!!

Its more like:
Signal fgf23 release, reduce sclerostin inhibition to avoid excess growth, increase thyroxine to mediate growth, release somatatotropin to grow, increase insulin to avoid diabetes. Increase collagen in eiphyseal plates to feed chondrocytes, etc.

all these functions are controlled by your DNA.

yes, igf-1 is more important that gH, however your body needs a balance. changing one thing will destroy everything.
yes, you can grow with igf-1, but its not as efficent as it could possibly be.

"genetically predetermined for ur height", yes but can be altered with drugs.


Indian hedgehog protein (Ihh), parathyroid hormone-related peptide (PTHrP), fibroblast growth factors (FGFs), and bone morphogenetic proteins (BMPs) produced by chondrocytes are all examples of proteins, growth factors, peptides that increase height.


run gH, run igf-1, but your nose will almost always grow. This is why taller people dont have these issues. Its all DNA.

nly if u already have cancer cells in ur body igf speeds it up

your body always has cancer cells in it.

gh stimulates collagen type I so actually it gives u more collagen which would make u appear younger

It increases collagen in the bones.
"Growth hormone stimulates the collagen synthesis in human tendon and skeletal muscle without affecting myofibrillar protein synthesis "
from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2821728/

4-5iu when soft tissue growth increase exponentially,

study? exponential growth at that rate could be plausible.

Research should be done tho.

u can manage it extremely with supplements e.g. berberin

You can manage it, but your still at risk.

it has risks. It will always have risks.
Organ growth, heart growth in certain valves that cause strain, etc.

Its not cope i know 3 methods one of them im helping someone research, so far each one has resulted with around 2 inches of growth all unrelated to the others, of course they are theoretical, but there is evidence to them to some extent and its not non scientific manifesting bs, im not a broscientist ppl here including me want to see height methods develop further

I'd love to take a look, im short myself might provide me some new hope.

I would also love to see height methods develop, but they must be safe, we only have one chance at life, dont wanna fuck it up.

 

[Maalik]

im short myself might provide me some new hope.

Lol being short turned you into a PhD in endocrinology
what height?

 

[moggr2009]

Lol being short turned you into a PhD in endocrinology

real
5'9.25
i grew about an inch and half in the past few months since i got hyperthyroidism (unrelated, gramps had it too when he was 15)
i have hope since im 15 maybe i can reach 5'11 and fraud six foot.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

just cause certain foods have protein structures that can become hormones (tryptophan to 5-htp) doesnt mean they will become the hormone
your better off injecting igf-1+ hgh to grow

just because you raise hgh doesnt always cause an increase in height
its a complex process with many hormones and other chemicals that any possibly height gain from fasting is close to 0
thats why sprinting doesnt actually make you taller via the gH pathways.

That makes perfect sense

"Hmm. It seems there is no food. Now's the perfect time to double energy expenditure by turning this manlet into a 6,5 tank!"
- Our intelligently designed bodies apparently

Finally SOMEONE WITH COMMON SENSE

FASTING DISTURB GROWTH SEVERLY

ACTIVITY"S TO SPIKE HGH LIKE SPRINTINF OR FASTING WILL NOT CAUSE HEIGHT GROWTH, THE SAME IS APPLIED TO INJECTING HGH

INJECTING HGH = NO HEIGHT GROWTG

THE HUMANS BODY IS VERY COMPLEX, ITS NOT THAT SIMPLE
STOP COPING

 

[Rigged]

it works when your older. not when ur 17 and what to grow half an inch.

Thats just wrong some plates r still open and u can grow and someone people grow even when plates are closed

it speed up replication rate of cancerous cells, aswell as organ cells and biological functions.
It can be somewhat mitigated through dosage control, but only to a certain extent.

HGH can accelerate cell replication potentially cancerous cells but it varies with dosage like u said and individual differences

hgh no matter what will cause soft tissue growth.

Hgh does not universally cause soft tissue growth

Your bones start off as soft-tissue (cartilidge), which are then replaced with calcium by depositing it.

Your are partly right bones do develop from cartilage through endochondral ossification. However HGH mainly affects bone lengthening and density, not the direct conversion of cartilage to bone

It might be less for ears and nose, but thats genetic-based.

That's true Growth in cartilaginous tissues like ears and nose can be affected by genetics while HGH might affect these areas, the affect varies significantly as u said

igf-1 has many regulating properties. The main growth protein is named "Sclerostin". This protein is essential (inverse) for bone growth.

Your mixing a few concepts IGF-1 regulates growth, but Sclerostin inhibits bone formation, acting inversely to decrease bone growth, But there's a difference. IGF-1 does regulate growth, but it's not directly linked to Sclerostin. Sclerostin actually inhibits bone growth, which means it works in opposition to processes that promote bone formation. Saying Sclerostin is a "main growth protein" is misleading it's more accurate to call it a growth-inhibiting protein

Parathyroid hormone (PTH) increases fibroblast growth factor 23 (FGF23), which are mediated by protein kinase A (PKA) and Wnt signaling. Neither of these involve igf-1.

You're right—PTH increases FGF23 via PKA and Wnt signaling pathways, which are separate from the IGF-1 pathway

Scelorstin through inverse signaling (less means more growth) increases height growth.

Your right Less sclerostin means more bone growth, potentially increasing height

FGF23 is also an inverse signaler it has to be in perfect balance to allow height growth, since it mediates phosphate levels in chondrocytes and fibroblasts.

Also correct FGF23's balance is crucial for height growth

PTH (Parathyroid hormone) is essential for bone growth through indirectly (again, to my point that the body has no direct growth hormone for bone calcite growth), which also has to be in perfect harmony with igf-1 and FGF23.

Thryoxine is another hormone that influences the speed of growth.

Bone growth is not as simple as
Increase IGF-1 and you grow!!!

i mean it is sure its not as simple if u want to maximize it but it is as simple as that if u want some growth

Its more like:
Signal fgf23 release, reduce sclerostin inhibition to avoid excess growth, increase thyroxine to mediate growth, release somatatotropin to grow, increase insulin to avoid diabetes. Increase collagen in eiphyseal plates to feed chondrocytes, etc.

all these functions are controlled by your DNA.

yes, igf-1 is more important that gH, however your body needs a balance. changing one thing will destroy everything.
yes, you can grow with igf-1, but its not as efficent as it could possibly be.

"genetically predetermined for ur height", yes but can be altered with drugs.

Indian hedgehog protein (Ihh), parathyroid hormone-related peptide (PTHrP), fibroblast growth factors (FGFs), and bone morphogenetic proteins (BMPs) produced by chondrocytes are all examples of proteins, growth factors, peptides that increase height.

run gH, run igf-1, but your nose will almost always grow. This is why taller people dont have these issues. Its all DNA.

Yeh its usually not significant growth

your body always has cancer cells in it.

our immune system usually eliminates these cells before they become a problem

It increases collagen in the bones.
"Growth hormone stimulates the collagen synthesis in human tendon and skeletal muscle without affecting myofibrillar protein synthesis "
from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2821728/

growth hormone can induce collagen synthesis in the face, but its less pronounced compared to its effects on collagen synthesis in other tissues like bones

study? exponential growth at that rate could be plausible.

Not a study just a theory

Research should be done tho.

Probably

You can manage it, but your still at risk.

Extremely low risk

it has risks. It will always have risks.
Organ growth, heart growth in certain valves that cause strain, etc.

Organ growth is rare at low doses ull only see organ growth at like 15iu if u run it for years sure u can get it at lower doses earlier but its rare

I'd love to take a look, im short myself might provide me some new hope.

Im not gonna leak them as there r people testing them rn but if u search up @heightquest on instagram hes well known u probably already know him but if u dont he just has interesting stuff u could check out

I would also love to see height methods develop, but they must be safe, we only have one chance at life, dont wanna fuck it up.

This forums more of a if u dont reach a certain point then ur lifes meaningless anyways so ur mindset is different than most ppls here but id say its pretty 50/50

Tbh ur not giving me much to reply ur kinda just trying to give me definitions im aware how everythings work all the stuff u said is extremely known and common knowledge on this forum alot of people on this forum are phds and extremely smart and dedicated to “looksmaxing” sadly alot of people here are trolls and dumb the knowledgable people usually dont post or talk often

 

[Rigged]

Finally SOMEONE WITH COMMON SENSE

FASTING DISTURB GROWTH SEVERLY

ACTIVITY"S TO SPIKE HGH LIKE SPRINTINF OR FASTING WILL NOT CAUSE HEIGHT GROWTH, THE SAME IS APPLIED TO INJECTING HGH

INJECTING HGH = NO HEIGHT GROWTG

THE HUMANS BODY IS VERY COMPLEX, ITS NOT THAT SIMPLE
STOP COPING

Everything here is water except hgh, hgh injecting hgh will make u taller even if its insignificant and usually if u do it properly itll be signifcant

 

[Rigged]

real
5'9.25
i grew about an inch and half in the past few months since i got hyperthyroidism (unrelated, gramps had it too when he was 15)
i have hope since im 15 maybe i can reach 5'11 and fraud six foot.

Im 5’5 same age as u over for me

 

[Rigged]

Lol being short turned you into a PhD in endocrinology
what height?

Phd is crazy he seems smart but he just threw out definitions and just named some hormones and what they do

 

[moggr2009]

Thats just wrong some plates r still open and u can grow and someone people grow even when plates are closed

reread what i said
you cant grow feasibe amounts when plates are closed, thats def cope.

Hgh does not universally cause soft tissue growth...

Your are partly right bones do develop from cartilage through endochondral ossification. However HGH mainly affects bone lengthening and density, not the direct conversion of cartilage to bone

it works by increasing chondrocyte proliferation...
bones are made from soft tissue

Your mixing a few concepts IGF-1 regulates growth, but Sclerostin inhibits bone formation, acting inversely to decrease bone growth, But there's a difference. IGF-1 does regulate growth, but it's not directly linked to Sclerostin. Sclerostin actually inhibits bone growth, which means it works in opposition to processes that promote bone formation. Saying Sclerostin is a "main growth protein" is misleading it's more accurate to call it a growth-inhibiting protein

yes, I said sclerostin inhibs bone formation reverse pathways....
i didnt link it to sclerostin.. however it still can link to sclerostin as it affects the way chondrocytes act, including inhibiting sclerostin.
"is misleading it's more accurate to call it a growth-inhibiting protein" thats exactly what i said lmao

our immune system usually eliminates these cells before they become a problem

if you increase the speed at which the replicate they become a bigger problem that are immune system cant always handle.

growth hormone can induce collagen synthesis in the face, but its less pronounced compared to its effects on collagen synthesis in other tissues like bones

Collagen type I is a common matrix compound in a large number of connective tissues its probably only 10% that enters the skin lmao

your right on most things just needs a little tweaking

 

[Rigged]

reread what i said
you cant grow feasibe amounts when plates are closed, thats def cope.

U can, one of the theorys im looking into is brute forcing height growth outside of hormones its not cope

it works by increasing chondrocyte proliferation...
bones are made from soft tissue

This site is weird since i cant see what i said before the reply and i have a bad memory

Ur partially correct growth hormone helps bone growth by boosting chondrocyte proliferation. But bones form through a process where cartilage becomes bone, and growth hormone mainly affects later bone growth stages like elongation and density, not the initial conversion

yes, I said sclerostin inhibs bone formation reverse pathways....

Yeh i was just repeating what u said didnt realize u were just gonna throw out google definitions at me thats why i stopped doi my that for every single part u said

i didnt link it to sclerostin.. however it still can link to sclerostin as it affects the way chondrocytes act, including inhibiting sclerostin.

I dont remember what i said before this

"is misleading it's more accurate to call it a growth-inhibiting protein" thats exactly what i said lmao

Thats deadass not what u said?

if you increase the speed at which the replicate they become a bigger problem that are immune system cant always handle.

Thats more of a risk than a guarantee sometimes u have to take risks everything on this forum has risks even when their rare for example pfs is 1% someone will end up with it and be cucked one day

Collagen type I is a common matrix compound in a large number of connective tissues its probably only 10% that enters the skin lmao

Collagen is collagen

your right on most things just needs a little tweaking

I didnt say anything wrong im just summarizing things since im not gonna write a thesis on something u most likely wont fully be able to understand
Anyways ur new to this forum so i wont blame u for not knowing everything everyone has to start somewhere

 

[moggr2009]

Ur partially correct growth hormone helps bone growth by boosting chondrocyte proliferation. But bones form through a process where cartilage becomes bone, and growth hormone mainly affects later bone growth stages like elongation and density, not the initial conversion

it tells chondrocytes to increase the production
it tells calcium to enter the bones to increase density
bones can not become more bone its all made from cartilage

Thats deadass not what u said?

deadass is lmao

This protein is essential (inverse) for bone growth.

Anyways ur new to this forum so i wont blame u for not knowing everything everyone has to start somewher

yep, your probs more knowledgeble so take what I say with a grain of salt

 

[Rigged]

it tells chondrocytes to increase the production

it tells calcium to enter the bones to increase density

bones can not become more bone its all made from cartilage

I didnt say that

deadass is lmao

Nah

yep, your probs more knowledgeble so take what I say with a grain of salt

I think were in a situation where were just translating each others shit into our own words even tho their the same shit and saying “nah ur wrong”

What a predicament

 

[moggr2009]

I think were in a situation where were just translating each others shit into our own words even tho their the same shit and saying “nah ur wrong”

yeah LOL

 

[horizontallytall]

That makes perfect sense

"Hmm. It seems there is no food. Now's the perfect time to double energy expenditure by turning this manlet into a 6,5 tank!"
- Our intelligently designed bodies apparently

Never caged so had brah