Chemicel
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Shut up racist, I haven't seen anyone get shit from heightmaxxing.Nice arguments greycel
Then why haven't I see anyone talk about any gains, if there are please show me. I'm 17 and my plates are open.its cope if ur are 19 yrs and you havent checked your plates
you just throwin money away
if ur plates are open its legit
u are fucking retardedThen why haven't I see anyone talk about any gains, if there are please show me. I'm 17 and my plates are open.
Then what's the best way to increase nigga since you know everythingu are fucking retarded
growth hormone and igf 1 is the main reason that you are growing taller
after 17 its decreases
Hgh,Then what's the best way to increase nigga since you know everything
Any good threads with no bullshit stackeHgh,
gh secretagogues
Do your own research jflAny good threads with no bullshit stacke
Well can you help me out privately at least? I don't trust them either man.Do your own research jfl
I did my own thats why i dont trust these retard aspie scientist here
Prove me wrong.
What did your research show?Do your own research jfl
I did my own thats why i dont trust these retard aspie scientist here
in terms of what?What did your research show?
calling proven stuff cope damn bruIt's cope
Who tf is heightmaxxing even forcalling proven stuff cope damn bru
stop being a defeatist thats such an incel trait bru long as your growth plates are open you can heightmaxWho tf is heightmaxxing even for
Fuck this I'm just gonna LDAR
also as long as youre not below 5'8 dont kysstop being a defeatist thats such an incel trait bru long as your growth plates are open you can heightmax
Where the fuck are you fromTry being 5'9 for a day, it's fucking suifel when middle school girls are your height.
Does it matter how much of the macronutrients I eat? Or does only the calorie surplus matter?I think most people seem to think that GH alone will give them some height, it doesn't work like that, injecting growth hormone will cause an insane increase in the production of IGF-1, that extra IGF-1 will signal the body to create more IGFBP's, specifically IGFBP3 which will bind up the IGF-1 and prevent it from attaching to the IGFR1-2, essentially a good chunk of that GH is going to waste. Keep in mind GH is only one growth factor out of a dozen, the most important thing whilst in puberty is to constantly be activating the mTORC1-2/Pi3k/ATK pathways, eating in a calorie surplus and consuming foods regularly, ensuring that your pancreas is constantly secreting insulin, in turn, insulin binds to an available receptor and produces a cascade anabolic pathway signaling. Making sure that you've constantly got insulin bound to these receptors is vital, these pathways, particularly the pi3k pathway signal the body to proliferate cells, induce hyperplasia, increase protein synthesis and hypertrophy, these pathways need to be constantly spiked, essentially you need to be in a constant state of anabolism, insulin being one of the most anabolic hormones within the body. Injecting GH ensures that these pathways will be active at all time, IGF-1 stimulates the activity of mTOR/pi3k/ATK. That leads me to my next statement, GH and IGF-1 are needed together, the usage of IGF-1 Lr3 is great because this particular exogenous polypeptide has a low affinity to bind to IGFBP3, meaning majority of the peptide is bioavailable to the IGFR1-2. The injection of both GH and IGF-1 will ensure that you're reaping all the positive effects of IGF-1 but also stimulating the activity of the mTOR/pi3k pathways due to GH's effect on insulin. There are actually chemicals on the market that can be injected that have potent stimulatory effects on the pi3k pathway, inducing insane cell proliferative effects, I don't recommend the usage, cancer is basically a guarantee.
basically,to grow you're gonna need atleast 7.5iu's of quality growth hormone along with atleast 50mcg of IGF-1Lr3 daily. But mainly you're going to need to be eating in a major calorie surplus, you need to ensure that your pancreas is producing substantial amounts of insulin to keep the anabolic pathways active, this is why I don't condone fasting during puberty, contrary to popular belief, fasting actually has a negative effect on growth, the reason why GH can get up to 3000% higher is due to the fact that insulin agonizes GH, and when you're fasting you aren't producing insulin as you're not eating. Without insulin circulating the blood and the liver, GH cannot be converted to IGF-1 as it needs both somatropin, insulin, and glucose to do so. Without insulin, you're not activating these pathways, which is anti-anabolic and pro-catabolic.
just eat food, inject growth hormone, and pray.
yes, it does, eat up to atleast 300-400g of carbohydrates daily, this'll ensure that there will always be adequate amounts of insulin downstream binding to the receptors and activating the cascade of anabolic signaling.Does it matter how much of the macronutrients I eat? Or does only the calorie surplus matter?
Okay, thank you! I appreciate your knowledge.yes, it does, eat up to atleast 300-400g of carbohydrates daily, this'll ensure that there will always be adequate amounts of insulin downstream binding to the receptors and activating the cascade of anabolic signaling.
Things that you discovered that were different from the "aspies"s opinionsin terms of what?
Jesus christ man all your interventions are extremely high IQI think most people seem to think that GH alone will give them some height, it doesn't work like that, injecting growth hormone will cause an insane increase in the production of IGF-1, that extra IGF-1 will signal the body to create more IGFBP's, specifically IGFBP3 which will bind up the IGF-1 and prevent it from attaching to the IGFR1-2, essentially a good chunk of that GH is going to waste. Keep in mind GH is only one growth factor out of a dozen, the most important thing whilst in puberty is to constantly be activating the mTORC1-2/Pi3k/ATK pathways, eating in a calorie surplus and consuming foods regularly, ensuring that your pancreas is constantly secreting insulin, in turn, insulin binds to an available receptor and produces a cascade anabolic pathway signaling. Making sure that you've constantly got insulin bound to these receptors is vital, these pathways, particularly the pi3k pathway signal the body to proliferate cells, induce hyperplasia, increase protein synthesis and hypertrophy, these pathways need to be constantly spiked, essentially you need to be in a constant state of anabolism, insulin being one of the most anabolic hormones within the body. Injecting GH ensures that these pathways will be active at all time, IGF-1 stimulates the activity of mTOR/pi3k/ATK. That leads me to my next statement, GH and IGF-1 are needed together, the usage of IGF-1 Lr3 is great because this particular exogenous polypeptide has a low affinity to bind to IGFBP3, meaning majority of the peptide is bioavailable to the IGFR1-2. The injection of both GH and IGF-1 will ensure that you're reaping all the positive effects of IGF-1 but also stimulating the activity of the mTOR/pi3k pathways due to GH's effect on insulin. There are actually chemicals on the market that can be injected that have potent stimulatory effects on the pi3k pathway, inducing insane cell proliferative effects, I don't recommend the usage, cancer is basically a guarantee.
basically,to grow you're gonna need atleast 7.5iu's of quality growth hormone along with atleast 50mcg of IGF-1Lr3 daily. But mainly you're going to need to be eating in a major calorie surplus, you need to ensure that your pancreas is producing substantial amounts of insulin to keep the anabolic pathways active, this is why I don't condone fasting during puberty, contrary to popular belief, fasting actually has a negative effect on growth, the reason why GH can get up to 3000% higher is due to the fact that insulin agonizes GH, and when you're fasting you aren't producing insulin as you're not eating. Without insulin circulating the blood and the liver, GH cannot be converted to IGF-1 as it needs both somatropin, insulin, and glucose to do so. Without insulin, you're not activating these pathways, which is anti-anabolic and pro-catabolic.
just eat food, inject growth hormone, and pray.
he's 5'5 hahahahahTry being 5'9 for a day, it's fucking suifel when middle school girls are your height.
Is it bad if I eat more than that amount of carbohydrates daily? Also I eat a lot of protein. I mainly focus on protein and carbohydrates intake.yes, it does, eat up to atleast 300-400g of carbohydrates daily, this'll ensure that there will always be adequate amounts of insulin downstream binding to the receptors and activating the cascade of anabolic signaling.
yeah well,both secrete insulin. It doesn't matter, basically whatever you put in your mouth is gonna secrete insulin.Is it bad if I eat more than that amount of carbohydrates daily? Also I eat a lot of protein. I mainly focus on protein and carbohydrates intake.
Just be fat in puberty theory. No, but seriously, I think I could've been a lot taller if I ate more when I was 12-15. I was almost anorexic at this time. I'm now 16 (17 in a week) and I'm starting to eat a lot, especially because I'm hitting the gym daily.yeah well,both secrete insulin. It doesn't matter, basically whatever you put in your mouth is gonna secrete insulin.
he's 5'5 hahahahah
So where exactly does the anabolic effect of peptides (ghrps and ghrhs) come from? Should you actually eat something after getting a GH spike from them, so the GH is met with insulin?I think most people seem to think that GH alone will give them some height, it doesn't work like that, injecting growth hormone will cause an insane increase in the production of IGF-1, that extra IGF-1 will signal the body to create more IGFBP's, specifically IGFBP3 which will bind up the IGF-1 and prevent it from attaching to the IGFR1-2, essentially a good chunk of that GH is going to waste. Keep in mind GH is only one growth factor out of a dozen, the most important thing whilst in puberty is to constantly be activating the mTORC1-2/Pi3k/ATK pathways, eating in a calorie surplus and consuming foods regularly, ensuring that your pancreas is constantly secreting insulin, in turn, insulin binds to an available receptor and produces a cascade anabolic pathway signaling. Making sure that you've constantly got insulin bound to these receptors is vital, these pathways, particularly the pi3k pathway signal the body to proliferate cells, induce hyperplasia, increase protein synthesis and hypertrophy, these pathways need to be constantly spiked, essentially you need to be in a constant state of anabolism, insulin being one of the most anabolic hormones within the body. Injecting GH ensures that these pathways will be active at all time, IGF-1 stimulates the activity of mTOR/pi3k/ATK. That leads me to my next statement, GH and IGF-1 are needed together, the usage of IGF-1 Lr3 is great because this particular exogenous polypeptide has a low affinity to bind to IGFBP3, meaning majority of the peptide is bioavailable to the IGFR1-2. The injection of both GH and IGF-1 will ensure that you're reaping all the positive effects of IGF-1 but also stimulating the activity of the mTOR/pi3k pathways due to GH's effect on insulin. There are actually chemicals on the market that can be injected that have potent stimulatory effects on the pi3k pathway, inducing insane cell proliferative effects, I don't recommend the usage, cancer is basically a guarantee.
basically,to grow you're gonna need atleast 7.5iu's of quality growth hormone along with atleast 50mcg of IGF-1Lr3 daily. But mainly you're going to need to be eating in a major calorie surplus, you need to ensure that your pancreas is producing substantial amounts of insulin to keep the anabolic pathways active, this is why I don't condone fasting during puberty, contrary to popular belief, fasting actually has a negative effect on growth, the reason why GH can get up to 3000% higher is due to the fact that insulin agonizes GH, and when you're fasting you aren't producing insulin as you're not eating. Without insulin circulating the blood and the liver, GH cannot be converted to IGF-1 as it needs both somatropin, insulin, and glucose to do so. Without insulin, you're not activating these pathways, which is anti-anabolic and pro-catabolic.
just eat food, inject growth hormone, and pray.
Cant we just inject it?Without insulin circulating the blood and the liver, GH cannot be converted to IGF-1 as it needs both somatropin, insulin, and glucose to do so.
The more I learn about this, the more I realize that peptides probably wont do anything for meI think most people seem to think that GH alone will give them some height, it doesn't work like that, injecting growth hormone will cause an insane increase in the production of IGF-1, that extra IGF-1 will signal the body to create more IGFBP's, specifically IGFBP3 which will bind up the IGF-1 and prevent it from attaching to the IGFR1-2, essentially a good chunk of that GH is going to waste. Keep in mind GH is only one growth factor out of a dozen, the most important thing whilst in puberty is to constantly be activating the mTORC1-2/Pi3k/ATK pathways, eating in a calorie surplus and consuming foods regularly, ensuring that your pancreas is constantly secreting insulin, in turn, insulin binds to an available receptor and produces a cascade anabolic pathway signaling. Making sure that you've constantly got insulin bound to these receptors is vital, these pathways, particularly the pi3k pathway signal the body to proliferate cells, induce hyperplasia, increase protein synthesis and hypertrophy, these pathways need to be constantly spiked, essentially you need to be in a constant state of anabolism, insulin being one of the most anabolic hormones within the body. Injecting GH ensures that these pathways will be active at all time, IGF-1 stimulates the activity of mTOR/pi3k/ATK. That leads me to my next statement, GH and IGF-1 are needed together, the usage of IGF-1 Lr3 is great because this particular exogenous polypeptide has a low affinity to bind to IGFBP3, meaning majority of the peptide is bioavailable to the IGFR1-2. The injection of both GH and IGF-1 will ensure that you're reaping all the positive effects of IGF-1 but also stimulating the activity of the mTOR/pi3k pathways due to GH's effect on insulin. There are actually chemicals on the market that can be injected that have potent stimulatory effects on the pi3k pathway, inducing insane cell proliferative effects, I don't recommend the usage, cancer is basically a guarantee.
basically,to grow you're gonna need atleast 7.5iu's of quality growth hormone along with atleast 50mcg of IGF-1Lr3 daily. But mainly you're going to need to be eating in a major calorie surplus, you need to ensure that your pancreas is producing substantial amounts of insulin to keep the anabolic pathways active, this is why I don't condone fasting during puberty, contrary to popular belief, fasting actually has a negative effect on growth, the reason why GH can get up to 3000% higher is due to the fact that insulin agonizes GH, and when you're fasting you aren't producing insulin as you're not eating. Without insulin circulating the blood and the liver, GH cannot be converted to IGF-1 as it needs both somatropin, insulin, and glucose to do so. Without insulin, you're not activating these pathways, which is anti-anabolic and pro-catabolic.
just eat food, inject growth hormone, and pray.
peptides are good.The more I learn about this, the more I realize that peptides probably wont do anything for me
GH or death
hexarelin activates the pi3k-akt pathway just like what he was describing https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/146/11/4665/2499763The more I learn about this, the more I realize that peptides probably wont do anything for me
GH or death
i can only afford two peptides so i was planning to buy cjc no dac (mod grf) and GHRP-2, but does this mean I should switch the cjc out for hexarelin?hexarelin activates the pi3k-akt pathway just like what he was describing https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/146/11/4665/2499763
Extra chromosomes threads were also right that Glucosamine and chondroitin while u take all this HGH and IGF-1 shit will amplify the effect they have, specifically to the chondrocytes and cell proliferation will happen faster, aromatase inhibitor will make sure your growth plates can't fuse more faster and you'll remain at a delayed bone age because there is a study that in teens close to end of puberty, every SINGLE INCH they grow is closing their growth plates, the AI won't let that happen and you'll still have the open growth plates for much longer, you'll grow massive amount from the HGH/peptide,IGF-1LR3,AI,Glucosamine,Chondritin. And then there is MSM and SAM-E https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/76/5/1151S/4824259 will ensure that your chondroctyes as soon as the IGF-1 binds to the receptors in it, it will still have the mechanism to divide, so yes the ultimate stack is HGH/peptides,IGF-1LR3,AI,Glucosamine,Chondritin, MSM, SAM-E , if you want take vitamin k2 mk4 but I doubt you'll be needing it and don't be a malnutrition fuck so you can avoid deficiencies. Most of this information that i got was from a guy called xcrunner who stole research off a man named alkoclar about height increase, he gave us a few helpful pointers and it helps that he was a bio-chemist for a long time but nevertheless a dirty rat
Bro the average height of a women is 5’6 just cause you have some girrafe ass middle school girls doesn’t mean shit 5’9 is Manlet yeah but Justin Bieber is that height and all the bitches fell for himTry being 5'9 for a day, it's fucking suifel when middle school girls are your height.
Bro the average height of a women is 5’6 just cause you have some girrafe ass middle school girls doesn’t mean shit 5’9 is Manlet yeah but Justin Bieber is that height and all the bitches fell for him
i can only afford two peptides so i was planning to buy cjc no dac (mod grf) and GHRP-2, but does this mean I should switch the cjc out for hexarelin?