I actually feel sad for the short guys and why height > face

[5.5psl]

If you are short like below 5'7 then you are truly fucked unless you are very good looking at the face
Considering what tik tok and social media have made an aura around tall guys , girls proudly and openly saying that they don't like short guys
Atleast a tall ugly guy can go to the gym and blast roids to get a body halo and male respect with low quality women thirsting for him
A short guy would literally look repulsive with all that muscle shit on his tiny frame with males bullying him quite easily and him feeling depressed and suicidal all the time just coz of his stature
No tall guy can ever imagine his life as a short or even an average height clone of himself like I'll legit never choose to be below 5'10-5'11 unless I atleast get 2-3+ points added to the face if given a choice
And when it comes to fixing short height you need $200k to do LL from a skilled surgeon whereas for the face it would take you at Max 30-40 k usd considering you are truly fucked and you need bimax , genio , implants
And that's why height > face and not face > height
@Artemis @Arborist @Maesthetics=King @LOST

 

[Krakowski]

It’s not black and white.

 

[cytoplasm]

its impossible to be incel with good face

its possible to be incel with good height

thats why face>height

 

[5.5psl]

its impossible to be incel with good face

its possible to be incel with good height

thats why face>height

3'8 6 psl vs 6'2 4 psl ?

 

[Descender]

3'8 6 psl vs 6'2 4 psl ?

Bad comparison, 4 PSL is around average
A better comparison would be 3'8 6 PSL vs 6'2 2PSL
This is due to being 3'8 and 2 PSL being equally rare

 

[hopecel]

3'8 6 psl vs 6'2 4 psl ?

midgets are hypermasc

 

[5.5psl]

If you are short like below 5'7 then you are truly fucked unless you are very good looking at the face
Considering what tik tok and social media have made an aura around tall guys , girls proudly and openly saying that they don't like short guys
Atleast a tall ugly guy can go to the gym and blast roids to get a body halo and male respect with low quality women thirsting for him
A short guy would literally look repulsive with all that muscle shit on his tiny frame with males bullying him quite easily and him feeling depressed and suicidal all the time just coz of his stature
No tall guy can ever imagine his life as a short or even an average height clone of himself like I'll legit never choose to be below 5'10-5'11 unless I atleast get 2-3+ points added to the face if given a choice
And when it comes to fixing short height you need $200k to do LL from a skilled surgeon whereas for the face it would take you at Max 30-40 k usd considering you are truly fucked and you need bimax , genio , implants
And that's why height > face and not face > height
@Artemis @Arborist @Maesthetics=King @LOST

@forevermirin @EasyMan875

 

[hopecel]

If you are short like below 5'7 then you are truly fucked unless you are very good looking at the face
Considering what tik tok and social media have made an aura around tall guys , girls proudly and openly saying that they don't like short guys
Atleast a tall ugly guy can go to the gym and blast roids to get a body halo and male respect with low quality women thirsting for him
A short guy would literally look repulsive with all that muscle shit on his tiny frame with males bullying him quite easily and him feeling depressed and suicidal all the time just coz of his stature
No tall guy can ever imagine his life as a short or even an average height clone of himself like I'll legit never choose to be below 5'10-5'11 unless I atleast get 2-3+ points added to the face if given a choice
And when it comes to fixing short height you need $200k to do LL from a skilled surgeon whereas for the face it would take you at Max 30-40 k usd considering you are truly fucked and you need bimax , genio , implants
And that's why height > face and not face > height
@Artemis @Arborist @Maesthetics=King @LOST

personality > face and height

 

[cytoplasm]

3'8 6 psl vs 6'2 4 psl ?

but nobody is 3'8. in fact i havent seen a guy shorter than 5'5 in years. face can carry you passively in a way height cant

 

[forevermirin]

its impossible to be incel with good face

its possible to be incel with good height

thats why face>height

yeah like no one said otherwise tho

 

[Krakowski]

but nobody is 3'8. in fact i havent seen a guy shorter than 5'5 in years. face can carry you passively in a way height cant

You fall in love with the face, the face is who you are - especially the eyes.

Op needs head transplant and is therefore trying to talk about how height>face

 

[goo25]

If you are short like below 5'7 then you are truly fucked unless you are very good looking at the face
Considering what tik tok and social media have made an aura around tall guys , girls proudly and openly saying that they don't like short guys
Atleast a tall ugly guy can go to the gym and blast roids to get a body halo and male respect with low quality women thirsting for him
A short guy would literally look repulsive with all that muscle shit on his tiny frame with males bullying him quite easily and him feeling depressed and suicidal all the time just coz of his stature
No tall guy can ever imagine his life as a short or even an average height clone of himself like I'll legit never choose to be below 5'10-5'11 unless I atleast get 2-3+ points added to the face if given a choice
And when it comes to fixing short height you need $200k to do LL from a skilled surgeon whereas for the face it would take you at Max 30-40 k usd considering you are truly fucked and you need bimax , genio , implants
And that's why height > face and not face > height
@Artemis @Arborist @Maesthetics=King @LOST

i have a friend that Is 5'6 at 20 but at least htn facially and girls simp over him so height Is cope

 

[forevermirin]

@forevermirin @EasyMan875

height is actually insane halo bro. imagine being rated mtn on org while being average height its legit over but if ur tall u can still go sleep well at night knowing these manlet subhumans have no idea how much attention u can get for height alone.

 

[cytoplasm]

yeah like no one said otherwise tho

op said it

 

[5.5psl]

height is actually insane halo bro. imagine being rated mtn on org while being average height its legit over but if ur tall u can still go sleep well at night knowing these manlet subhumans have no idea how much attention u can get for height alone.

Exactly with my mtn face if I was anything below 5'10 I'll legit be an incel considering today's hypergamy
Height saves me so much atleast gives hope for ascension can't imagine my life as an avg height male

 

[5.5psl]

op said it

I didn't said that you won't be an incel if you are tall
All I'm saying is height > face and I gave the reasons for it too

 

[forevermirin]

op said it

yeah just read title mb but knowing op its just clickbait

 

[cytoplasm]

I didn't said that you won't be an incel if you are tall
All I'm saying is height > face and I gave the reasons for it too

yeah i get it but i disagree. with good face you cant be incel unless literal midget

 

[forevermirin]

Exactly with my mtn face if I was anything below 5'10 I'll legit be an incel considering today's hypergamy
Height saves me so much atleast gives hope for ascension can't imagine my life as an avg height male

I didn't said that you won't be an incel if you are tall
All I'm saying is height > face and I gave the reasons for it too

tbh overall id just say its a massive halo/multiplier its unfair to say height>face since (legit) HTN 5'10 will still outslay 6'3 MTN. but the benefit height gives u is still massive since it allows an mtn face to compete with HTNs (a slightly better looking MTN still has lower smv if hes avg height) @cytoplasm

 

[Deleted member 19174]

over

 

[Jhon Smith]

water but i agree. Height is objective doesn’t matter 6’6 is better than 6’4 whatever 6ft+ you are tall to 99% of women period. Face is subjective average guy htn mtn and chad all slay if they are tall. Some women would reject you but others wouldn’t but being short is dealbreaker for all women especially nowadays with social media

 

[JohnDoe]

It's bad enough at 5'8, below 5'7 is legit over.

 

[Marsik]

Stop overthinking

 

[Member since 2022]

Something that is not mentioned enough is that face will age and become less attractive over time like you can go from 9,5/10 to 6/10 due to only aging but your height will remain almost the same if you don't count 1 inch from spine decompression so from 6'4 to 6'3 which is still really good

also face will never give you the same male respect as your height... you don't have to slay but at least males are treating you with respect.. but if you don't slay as manlet you are not getting respected either

 

[rand anon]

over

 

[jflsnowdzz]

Kinda but except that it isnt black and white. Every inch below 6ft gets exponentially worse whereas face is more of a linear variation.

 

[heightislife198]

Something that is not mentioned enough is that face will age and become less attractive over time like you can go from 9,5/10 to 6/10 due to only aging but your height will remain almost the same if you don't count 1 inch from spine decompression so from 6'4 to 6'3 which is still really good

also face will never give you the same male respect as your height... you don't have to slay but at least males are treating you with respect.. but if you don't slay as manlet you are not getting respected either

Height is permanent face isn’t also dick size

 

[Interested]

$200k

LL is not 200k in turkey lol, a lot of people from US came to turkey and got LL for 15-20k eur, and the danger of LL is mostly based on the patient, not the surgeon.

 

[Deleted member 26859]

why do i have more slays than this entire forum at 5ft4 then


no lifts for your face



no 20k turkey LL surgery to fix ur entire facial harmony or race

 

[kalefartbomb]

but nobody is 3'8. in fact i havent seen a guy shorter than 5'5 in years. face can carry you passively in a way height cant

There are quite a few good looking turbomanlet incels in the incelsphere. Why can't people just accept that both can be failos, why does it have to be one or the other? You absolutely can be too short regardless of your face, and you can be too ugly regardless of your height.

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Good thread

Face is still King from 180cm to 195cm

But
190cm u need to be 4.5psl
180cm - 175cm u need to be 5-5.5 psl

sub 174-170cm 6 psl and even, still a baby for most women.

Ofc to slay

 

[cytoplasm]

There are quite a few good looking turbomanlet incels in the incelsphere. Why can't people just accept that both can be failos, why does it have to be one or the other? You absolutely can be too short regardless of your face, and you can be too ugly regardless of your height.

im not saying you cant be too short. but youd have to be 5'5 or less. we have failednormiemanlet whos a 5'5 normie curry slaying (apparently). idk of any gl turbomanlet incel in the incelosphere

 

[chrisN]

I swear you used to preach face > height

 

[5.5psl]

I swear you used to preach face > height

Face > height is true but I'm talking about what's easier to fix + over all quality of life

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Real tbh

Chad psl on a 5"7 guy makes him slightly above average

Chad psl on a 5"6 guy is fucking mtn, genuinely

 

[Deleted member 21048]

What if I'm both manlet and sub 5?

 

[TheAnomaly]

I have never seen a handsome incel. Even if he is short. I know tall incels.

 

[garfyld]

STR - face>height>status>money>personality
LTR - money>personality>status>height>face

 

[Deleted member 30323]

personality > face and height

omw to personalitymaxx

 

[skinmaxxer]

disagree face > height

 

[normie_joe]

If you are short like below 5'7 then you are truly fucked unless you are very good looking at the face
Considering what tik tok and social media have made an aura around tall guys , girls proudly and openly saying that they don't like short guys
Atleast a tall ugly guy can go to the gym and blast roids to get a body halo and male respect with low quality women thirsting for him
A short guy would literally look repulsive with all that muscle shit on his tiny frame with males bullying him quite easily and him feeling depressed and suicidal all the time just coz of his stature
No tall guy can ever imagine his life as a short or even an average height clone of himself like I'll legit never choose to be below 5'10-5'11 unless I atleast get 2-3+ points added to the face if given a choice
And when it comes to fixing short height you need $200k to do LL from a skilled surgeon whereas for the face it would take you at Max 30-40 k usd considering you are truly fucked and you need bimax , genio , implants
And that's why height > face and not face > height
@Artemis @Arborist @Maesthetics=King @LOST

Read this thread

Height matters. Face matters. Both matter.

Both matter, it's not one overrules the other. You must meet a certain height threshold (at least 5 ft 7) You must meet a certain face threshold (At least MTN) A 5 ft 2 guy with a Chadlite face suffers as much as a 6 ft 4 guy with a subhuman face. However, one can balance things out as...

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[zainab]

One advantage is that picking up tall women is so easy as their dating pool is so low.

 

[Deleted member 2816]

its impossible to be incel with good face

its possible to be incel with good height

thats why face>height

Big facts

 

[Account717]

>5'7
6 feet is minimum to not be considered short lol
-6' ft = short
6'-6'4 = medium/average
6'4+ = tall

 

[RopeMaxxed]

If you are short like below 5'7 then you are truly fucked unless you are very good looking at the face
Considering what tik tok and social media have made an aura around tall guys , girls proudly and openly saying that they don't like short guys
Atleast a tall ugly guy can go to the gym and blast roids to get a body halo and male respect with low quality women thirsting for him
A short guy would literally look repulsive with all that muscle shit on his tiny frame with males bullying him quite easily and him feeling depressed and suicidal all the time just coz of his stature
No tall guy can ever imagine his life as a short or even an average height clone of himself like I'll legit never choose to be below 5'10-5'11 unless I atleast get 2-3+ points added to the face if given a choice
And when it comes to fixing short height you need $200k to do LL from a skilled surgeon whereas for the face it would take you at Max 30-40 k usd considering you are truly fucked and you need bimax , genio , implants
And that's why height > face and not face > height
@Artemis @Arborist @Maesthetics=King @LOST

Can attest.