Objective PSL God Megathread.

[Korea]

Point is the objectively bad or good trait theory seems cope

There's no way this is cope.

It's as simple as asking you would you either have a large unproportional nose, or a small proportionate nose?

, I’ve seen a diverse portfolio of guys getting simped for, at a certain point of a combination of facial features, you will get lumped into the good looking category

I do agree with this though. Past a certain point, subjectivity rules.

Fuck I don’t even think women talk about male facial features this much

They do, assuming they aren't lesbian.

 

[Moggedbyevery1]

They do, assuming they aren't lesbian.

Maybe not in an analytical way, but they will subconsciously decide if a guy is hot enough to fuck within a few seconds of looking at him

 

[Korea]

Maybe not in an analytical way, but they will subconsciously decide if a guy is hot enough to fuck within a few seconds of looking at him

Yea definetly.

On MBC forum, they talk just like us. Just about women celebs lmao.

 

[Deleted member 15338]

How tf Elias has a higher mfr and fwhr than Dtagou

 

[Korea]

How tf Elias has a higher mfr and fwhr than Dtagou

The main difference is IPD.

IPD effects all of those ratios significantly.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

1. I put Amnesia and Salludon in 7 without measuring anything
Why? They didn't ask to be in my thread, but it's obvious to me they're up there. Not everyone wants their ratios n shit plastered on a big ass thread

2. Shit formatting. (Suck my dick, this is a huge ass thread)
3. I wont be measuring anyone I put below 7, exept O'pry.
4. This is objective. If your reply is along the lines of "OMG he mogs him" or "No appeal clear overrate". I'm not replying, argue amongst yourselfs. You totally missed the point of this thread, read the title again.
5. Typos (Might be a lot)
6. If I already rated the face, their name will be a link.
7. Didn't do Chico because his face is boring as fuck.

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How the numbers work around here. The scale goes 1 - 7, 1 worst 7 the highest possible.

(1/4,000,000) 7. I do not care what UNI you go to, how many "Chads" you seen today. You have never seen anyone this good looking in person. They could be in a hut, write essays on looksmax, or just not be into fame. This level is insanely high.

(1/2,000,000) 6.5. Basically the same rating as 7, but with more unideal ratios. I also would bet you've never seen this in person, but not impossible.

(1/1,600,000) 6. This person could easily get off their ass and start a modeling career and not be a meme.

(1/100,000) 5.5. Really GL guy, but nothing ridiculous (The last irl 10/10)

(1/88,000) 5. He's GL with a few flaws

(1/70,000) 4. Above avg.

(1/50,000) 3. Average

(1/It doesn't matter). The "It's Over Level"

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7's have essentially all perfect ratios, with no more than 5 being unideal, and 1 failo at most. (Negative Hooding Like Maher, hooked nose like Gandy, or T40 and Below Eye Color. You don't need blue eyes, but dirt black isn't good.
6.5's are sorta one in the same with 7s, just something MAJOR being unideal holding them back (i.e SHIT IPD)
6s have top tier ratios & features with no more than 8 being unideal. (cough cough assymetries and eye area)
5s have decent ratios with no more than 9 being unideal.
4s have bad ratios 10+ being unideal, causing a few failos.
3s have bad ratios and a huge fucking failo like a potato nose or some shit.
below 3 is not worth my time explaining.
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My list (Each name exept for Amnesia & Salludon are rated on their OBJECTIVE ratios, proportions, and features. Listed names are in NO ORDER.)

7.(Amnesia, Salludon)Korea, Elias Depoot, Hernan Drago, Alain Delon, Jordan Barrett, Jon-Erik Hexum, Jeremy Meeks, Atesh Salih, Brad Pitt (There are more, but this is all I feel like measuring rn)
Honorable Mentions I didn't feel like measuring: Matt Bomer, Chico, Vito Basso, and Mukasa.

6.5.Ian Sommerhalder, Zac Elfron, Tyler Maher, Johny Depp, Cillian Murphy. (There's more I'm tired. I'm writing this part Thurs. night, but the thread prob wont drop till saturday or some shit)

6. Sean O'pry, Alton Mason. (There are DEFINETLY MORE)

5. Dababy forcedsmile Timothee Chamalet, Jeremy Lin, (Orb)

4. Lil Wayne, Jay Z, Ed Sheeran, Adam Driver
3. Mario Jariko (Tired as fuck running out of examples)
3. DEEZ NUTS guy, Big Ed
2. Anthony Palma
1. Elephant Man
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First Up, Elias Depoot (7)

View attachment 1536368
ESR: 47% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.04 (Ideal)
Midface: 1:1 (Wow, perfect)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.47 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.69 (Too High, Flaw #1. You guys have no idea, but this is the reason why he looks "Gay", extremely feminine ratio.)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.53 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 85% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Ideal) Although they aren't all equal. His lower 3rd is the largest, and middle the shortest. Masculine facial 3rds. His 4hed his not big...
Total FWHR: 1.36 (Ideal)
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3/4ths
View attachment 1536396
Ogee Curve is great, not too forward. Very High set.
Some of the best Zygomatic Arches in human history.
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Side Profile
View attachment 1536403

(For the sake of time, I wont be listing each angle here. There's still the pics as usual, and will have "Ideal" in the photo if so vice versa.)
(Halfway thru Depoot, there's NO FUCKING WAY im doing pics for all off them, sorry. If an angle looks "off", I'll remeasure and show a picture. lol.)

Hope Depoot fans are happy, he's the only one getting pictures.
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Features

Eye Area/
Pros:
PCT (5.6°)
Slight Positive & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.44 great.

Cons:
Fully Hooded eyes causing Eyelashes 404. Even though in his side profile pic, you can see he has good lashes, just covered by hooding. (Flaw #3)

Nose/
Pros: Everything about it, maybe the best nose I'll see today.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Good lips, hence the good ratio
Coloring's good.
Good Cupids Bow.

Cons:
Squiggly Lip Seal (Resting postion of the lips. Should be perfectly straight. My last reasoning for why he looks "Gay") (Flaw #4)

Chin/Jaw:

Pros:
God Tier Chin
Great Ramus (Guys, it doesn't have to be like Hexum's to be good)
Straight Gonions.

Cons:
None

SYMMETRY: Amazing, this is super important, I'm not sparring any super assymetrical faces.

Quick Recap. Of all I measured, Depoot Has 4 Objective Flaws stopping him from being perfect (Could be more duh, but definetly not more than 5).
1. Mouth to Nose Ratio.
2. Bad Nasal Angle.
3. Fully Hooded Eyes.
4. Sqiggly Lip Seal.

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Up next, Hernan Drago(7) (Wont be grading his skin or hairline, he's 40+).
View attachment 1536518
FWHR: 2 (Ideal)
ESR: 44% (Unideal) Flaw #1 and one of the reasons why he looks "Ogre"
Midface Ratio: .92 (Unideal) Flaw #2 another reason for his "Ogre" look.
Chin to Philtrum Ratio: 2.90 (Unideal) Flaw #3 (Male Gaze nigg*s on suicide watch. His chin is just too big. Chill though, his flaws are coming to a halting stop
Mouth to Nose Ratio: 1.45 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.93 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 90% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 86% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Ideal Masculine Distribution)
Total FWHR: 1.3 (Ideal)

3/4th:
View attachment 1536571
Every good thing I've said over and over.

Side Profile:
(This is the best pic I could find.)
View attachment 1536572
All of the angles here are amazing, rest assured.

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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
3° PCT
Slight Positve Tilt & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.84 great

Cons:
Fully Hooded Causing Eyelash 404 (Flaw #4)

Nose/
Pros: Everything
Cons: Don't Exist

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Fair Lips, but good ratio so they pass the test.
Good shape & Lip seal
Good coloring

Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw:
Pros:
Aside from it's size, it's a very good chin.
Straight Gonions
A somewhat short ramus, but what really decides that for me is the gonial angle, and his is ideal at 112.5°

Symmetry: Very Good.

Quick Recap. 4 Flaws.
1. Cyclop ESR
2. A .20 off the Ideal range of .94 to 1.1 Midface (Remeasured 5x)
3. Ogre Chin to Philtrum Ratio
4. Fully Hooded Eyes.
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Alain's Turn (7).

View attachment 1536614


FWHR: 2 (Ideal)
ESR: 45.4% (Almost a cyclop, but Ideal)
Midface Ratio: .97 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum Ratio: 2.27 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose Ratio: 1.58 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 2.4 (Unideal, his top lip is 404) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 89% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Unideal) When they aren't all equal, the order should go (Mid, Top, Lower in terms of what 3rd is the shortest vs longest.)
His are Top, Mid, Lower. Flaw #2 (This is why a 3 finger forehead isn't ideal, called 4hed for a reason)
Total FWHR: 1.31 (Ideal)

3/4ths:
View attachment 1536659
For men, the Ogee Curve is more of a plus. I'm worried about the Zygomatic Arch and it's prominence. Alain takes this one.

Side Profile:

View attachment 1536671


Only thing wrong here is the 126.7° Gonial Angle. Flaw #3

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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
Minimal UEE letting the eyelashes show.
3.5° PCT
Deep Set
White Sclera
Slight Positive Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape

Cons:
PFL to Height Ratio is only 2.87 Flaw #4

Nose/
Pros: Yes
Cons: None

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Good coloring

Cons:
Already mentioned the size
Assymetrical Lip Seal (Flaw #5). This shit is not okay Alain...

Chin/Jaw:
Pros:
Everything.

No Cons.

Symmetry: Everything, but the Lip Seal is symmetrical to the human eye.

Quick Recap.
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio
2. Facial 3rds.
3. 126.7° Gonial Angle (1.67° out the Ideal lol)
4. PFL to Height is only 2.87
5. Lip Seal.

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Jordan Barrett (7)
(YES, I KNOW THIS IS EDITED, BUT IT'S RATEABLE)
View attachment 1536710

FWHR: 2.43 (Holy shit) Flaw #1
ESR: 49% (Unideal) To my knowledge, he doesn't have African DNA. Flaw #2
Midface Ratio: 1.12 (Ideal by 0.03, he's too compact)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.43 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.86 (Unideal, I could've guessed he was gay off this ratio alone) Flaw #3
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.99 (DSL's, but still Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 90% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.26 (Too Wide once again) (Unideal) Flaw #4

3/4ths:
View attachment 1536736
Do you really need me to say why it's perfect?

Side Profile:
View attachment 1536739
Not a single unideal angle here.
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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
6° PCT
Slight Positve Tilt & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.26 great

Cons:
Fully Hooded = Eyelash 404 Flaw #5

Nose/
Pros: Yes
Cons: None.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
DSL's, but good ratio so they pass the test.
Good shape & Lip seal
Good coloring

Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw: No cons.

Quick Recap.
1. ESR is .49%, way of the caucasian ideal
2. FWHR is way too fucking high
3. Mouth to Nose is too feminine
4. Total FWHR is too low, skull overall too wide.
5. Fully Hooded Eyes.
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Jon-Erik Hexum (7)

View attachment 1536761
ESR: 46% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.03 (Ideal)
Midface: .98 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.34 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.4 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.33 (Unideal) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 90% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.34 (Ideal)
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3/4ths
View attachment 1537699
Yes.

Side Profile

View attachment 1537702
Gonial Angle (125.1 deg) Flaw # ..... haha no, I'm not that much of a bitch. .01 deg off is fine.
Unharminous Labiolmental Angle (135.6 deg) Shouldn't be above 130 or below 105. Flaw #2
This is why his chin in some candids just looks "off" (Pics provided HERE.)
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Features:

Eye Area (You know what's coming).
Pros:
Minimal UEE
Dark & Dense Brows with a slight positive tilt.
White Sclera
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.77 (Ideal)

Cons:
NCT forcedsmile Flaw #3
NCT instantly disqualifies him from almond shaped eyes. Flaw #4

Nose
Pros: The Nose.
No Cons.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Coloring is good.

Cons:
Lip seal not an exact absolute perfect straight line. Flaw #5
Size, already dicussed.

Chin/Jaw
Pros:
Flared Gonions + everything, but the cons.
Cons:
Unharminous Labiomental Angle, aleady discussed.

Quick Recap
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio is too low.
2. Unharminous Labiolmental Angle
3. NCT
4. Eye Shape
5. Lip Seal

Jeremy Meeks (7)

View attachment 1537722
ESR: 48% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.04 (Ideal)
Midface: 1.03 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.41 (Haha nice, Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.42 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.44 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 90% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 81% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.31 (Ideal)

3/4ths

View attachment 1537810
Yes.

Side Profile Done Here. (TLDR it's great)

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Features:

Eye Area/
Pros:
Minimal UEE
4 deg PCT
Almond Shape
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.44

Cons:
Eyebrows pretty much did 404. Flaw #1
Sorta Assymetrical, prevalent in most pictures. Flaw #2

Nose/
Pros:
Everything, but the cons.

Cons:
The nostrils flare out, not by a lot obviously, but it's there. Flaw #3

Mouth/
Pros:
Good Cupids Bow
Perfect Lip Seal
Good lip color contrast.

Cons:
The Oral Commisures do not meet the iris. Flaw #4

Chin/Jaw
Pros: Everything is good here, check my side profile analysis.

Quick Recap
1. Eyebrows 404
2. Assymmetry in the eye area
3. Slight Nostril Flare
4. A Narrow Mouth, within reason.

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Atesh Salih (Best Eye Area here, reminds me of that Korea guy. Also he's 49, I'm using pics from his youth).

View attachment 1537828
FWHR: 2.08 (Ideal)
ESR: 46% (Ideal)
Midface Ratio: .96 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.23 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.53 (Ideall)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 2.29 (Pitiful Atesh, just pitiful) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 81% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Bad Distro (Top -> Mid -> Lower) Flaw #2
Total FWHR: 1.3 (Ideal)

3/4ths
View attachment 1537843
Everything Ideal here. And yes, he somehow pulled off full hooding + lashes.

Side Profile.
(Sorry yall this is the best side I could find....I suspect something must be wrong with it)

View attachment 1537848

Wow, almost flawless.

Bad Nasolabial Angle. See here. Flaw #3

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Features

Eye Area: Literally Perfect.

Nose: Also also a really good nose like depoot. Just has the 1 bad angle I spoke about

Mouth/
Pros:
Good Color Contrast
Oral Commissures are within the Iris

Cons:
Bad Lip Seal Caused by top lip 404. Flaw #4

Chin/Jaw:
Amazing Jaw.
Chin being somewhat narrow, slighty smaller than the mouth. Flaw #5

Quick Recap
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio
2. Facial 3rds
3. Bad Labiomental Angle
4. Lip Seal
5. Slightly Narrow Chin
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NGL, I'm bitchin' out of measuring Pitt. Don't really wnna look at his ass rn. Will do a thread when I wake up
Sean O'No (6) No Cherrypicks, only his best shit.

View attachment 1538110View attachment 1538111View attachment 1538117

Front
View attachment 1538145
FWHR: 2.05 (Ideal)
ESR: 47.30% (Unideal for Caucasians) Flaw #1
Midface Ratio: 1:1 (Perfect)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.97 (More than fucking Drago. Unideal) Flaw #2
Mouth to Nose: 1.45 (Ideall)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.91(Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 84% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Bad Distro (Mid -> Lower -> Top) Flaw #3
Total FWHR: 1.33 (Ideal)

3/4ths: Pic Here. Had to start using imgur, passed the file limit lol.

This is his best view.

Side

View attachment 1538149



Gonial Angle 127, even higher than Delon's. Flaw #4
Nasal Angles Appear to be fine.
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Features
Eye Area/
Pros:
Eyebrows are good, but the ideal tilt is Sligthly Positive -> Positive -> Neutral. This isn't a flaw though. That would be Brad Pitt's cucked eyebrows.
PFL to Height is 3.03. Suprisingly low tbh, but within the ideal.
5 deg PCT
Almond Shape.
Cons:
Fully Hooded = Eyelash 404. This goes for anyone, but the eye area God Atesh. Haven't seen anyone else do that. Flaw #5
Noticable Assymmetry. Flaw #6 (Offcially out of the 7 range)

Nose/

Pros: The overall size, shape etc is fine. Pay attention to the cons.
Cons:
Hooked Nose Failo #7
Serious Assymmetry: Flaw #8 (Offcially in 6 range)

Mouth/
Pros: He has a really good mouth area. Everything I've been saying is ideal he has.
Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw
Pros:
Other than the size, the chin is fine.
His gonions are actually straight out like most of the 7s.
Decent Ramus Length, but all of this is overshawdowed by what I'm about to say.
Cons:
Over sized Massters.
This makes his jaw look rounded in profile & frontal view. This shit doesn't look good guys. Not on Pitt, Not on O'pry. Flaw #9.

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Have Fun.
@Frank Jack
@germanlooks
@AscendingHero
@Preston
@astatine

So are you @Korea 7 PSL?

 

[VenomGT3]

Horrible rating scale tbh. Easily the worst I’ve seen. Lots of contradictions too.

Also, 99.999% (49,999/50,000) of people are below average?

 

[MrRubiks]

All right, so what do the ratios in the OP mean? 1/xxx? It's clearly not probability.

 

[Korea]

All right, so what do the ratios in the OP mean? 1/xxx? It's clearly not probability.

They all mean a ton of different things, it would be an entire thread on it's own.

The rarity probabilities were for the chances of a face being that objectively attractive.

Horrible rating scale tbh. Easily the worst I’ve seen. Lots of contradictions too.

Also, 99.999% (49,999/50,000) of people are below average?

You're an Idiot. .

 

[xanny]

You forgot my name in the PSL 7 range buddy!

 

[Korea]

You forgot my name in the PSL 7 range buddy!

I don't think you had an account when this was made or else I would've.

 

[xanny]

I don't think you had an account when this was made or else I would've.

Bruhhhh I was just trolling, I’m -2 PSL

 

[Korea]

Bruhhhh I was just trolling, I’m -2 PSL

Plus 10!

 

[Survivor95]

Paul walker mogs Hexum and has more appeal.

View attachment 1538247View attachment 1538248

Walker had noticeble asymetry, defently didn't mog Hexum.

 

[Survivor95]

1. I put Amnesia and Salludon in 7 without measuring anything
Why? They didn't ask to be in my thread, but it's obvious to me they're up there. Not everyone wants their ratios n shit plastered on a big ass thread

2. Shit formatting. (Suck my dick, this is a huge ass thread)
3. I wont be measuring anyone I put below 7, exept O'pry.
4. This is objective. If your reply is along the lines of "OMG he mogs him" or "No appeal clear overrate". I'm not replying, argue amongst yourselfs. You totally missed the point of this thread, read the title again.
5. Typos (Might be a lot)
6. If I already rated the face, their name will be a link.
7. Didn't do Chico because his face is boring as fuck.

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How the numbers work around here. The scale goes 1 - 7, 1 worst 7 the highest possible.

(1/4,000,000) 7. I do not care what UNI you go to, how many "Chads" you seen today. You have never seen anyone this good looking in person. They could be in a hut, write essays on looksmax, or just not be into fame. This level is insanely high.

(1/2,000,000) 6.5. Basically the same rating as 7, but with more unideal ratios. I also would bet you've never seen this in person, but not impossible.

(1/1,600,000) 6. This person could easily get off their ass and start a modeling career and not be a meme.

(1/100,000) 5.5. Really GL guy, but nothing ridiculous (The last irl 10/10)

(1/88,000) 5. He's GL with a few flaws

(1/70,000) 4. Above avg.

(1/50,000) 3. Average

(1/It doesn't matter). The "It's Over Level"

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7's have essentially all perfect ratios, with no more than 5 being unideal, and 1 failo at most. (Negative Hooding Like Maher, hooked nose like Gandy, or T40 and Below Eye Color. You don't need blue eyes, but dirt black isn't good.
6.5's are sorta one in the same with 7s, just something MAJOR being unideal holding them back (i.e SHIT IPD)
6s have top tier ratios & features with no more than 8 being unideal. (cough cough assymetries and eye area)
5s have decent ratios with no more than 9 being unideal.
4s have bad ratios 10+ being unideal, causing a few failos.
3s have bad ratios and a huge fucking failo like a potato nose or some shit.
below 3 is not worth my time explaining.
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My list (Each name exept for Amnesia & Salludon are rated on their OBJECTIVE ratios, proportions, and features. Listed names are in NO ORDER.)

7.(Amnesia, Salludon)Korea, Elias Depoot, Hernan Drago, Alain Delon, Jordan Barrett, Jon-Erik Hexum, Jeremy Meeks, Atesh Salih, Brad Pitt (There are more, but this is all I feel like measuring rn)
Honorable Mentions I didn't feel like measuring: Matt Bomer, Chico, Vito Basso, and Mukasa.

6.5.Ian Sommerhalder, Zac Elfron, Tyler Maher, Johny Depp, Cillian Murphy. (There's more I'm tired. I'm writing this part Thurs. night, but the thread prob wont drop till saturday or some shit)

6. Sean O'pry, Alton Mason. (There are DEFINETLY MORE)

5. Dababy forcedsmile Timothee Chamalet, Jeremy Lin, (Orb)

4. Lil Wayne, Jay Z, Ed Sheeran, Adam Driver
3. Mario Jariko (Tired as fuck running out of examples)
3. DEEZ NUTS guy, Big Ed
2. Anthony Palma
1. Elephant Man
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First Up, Elias Depoot (7)

View attachment 1536368
ESR: 47% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.04 (Ideal)
Midface: 1:1 (Wow, perfect)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.47 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.69 (Too High, Flaw #1. You guys have no idea, but this is the reason why he looks "Gay", extremely feminine ratio.)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.53 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 85% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Ideal) Although they aren't all equal. His lower 3rd is the largest, and middle the shortest. Masculine facial 3rds. His 4hed his not big...
Total FWHR: 1.36 (Ideal)
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3/4ths
View attachment 1536396
Ogee Curve is great, not too forward. Very High set.
Some of the best Zygomatic Arches in human history.
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Side Profile
View attachment 1536403

(For the sake of time, I wont be listing each angle here. There's still the pics as usual, and will have "Ideal" in the photo if so vice versa.)
(Halfway thru Depoot, there's NO FUCKING WAY im doing pics for all off them, sorry. If an angle looks "off", I'll remeasure and show a picture. lol.)

Hope Depoot fans are happy, he's the only one getting pictures.
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Features

Eye Area/
Pros:
PCT (5.6°)
Slight Positive & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.44 great.

Cons:
Fully Hooded eyes causing Eyelashes 404. Even though in his side profile pic, you can see he has good lashes, just covered by hooding. (Flaw #3)

Nose/
Pros: Everything about it, maybe the best nose I'll see today.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Good lips, hence the good ratio
Coloring's good.
Good Cupids Bow.

Cons:
Squiggly Lip Seal (Resting postion of the lips. Should be perfectly straight. My last reasoning for why he looks "Gay") (Flaw #4)

Chin/Jaw:

Pros:
God Tier Chin
Great Ramus (Guys, it doesn't have to be like Hexum's to be good)
Straight Gonions.

Cons:
None

SYMMETRY: Amazing, this is super important, I'm not sparring any super assymetrical faces.

Quick Recap. Of all I measured, Depoot Has 4 Objective Flaws stopping him from being perfect (Could be more duh, but definetly not more than 5).
1. Mouth to Nose Ratio.
2. Bad Nasal Angle.
3. Fully Hooded Eyes.
4. Sqiggly Lip Seal.

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Up next, Hernan Drago(7) (Wont be grading his skin or hairline, he's 40+).
View attachment 1536518
FWHR: 2 (Ideal)
ESR: 44% (Unideal) Flaw #1 and one of the reasons why he looks "Ogre"
Midface Ratio: .92 (Unideal) Flaw #2 another reason for his "Ogre" look.
Chin to Philtrum Ratio: 2.90 (Unideal) Flaw #3 (Male Gaze nigg*s on suicide watch. His chin is just too big. Chill though, his flaws are coming to a halting stop
Mouth to Nose Ratio: 1.45 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.93 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 90% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 86% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Ideal Masculine Distribution)
Total FWHR: 1.3 (Ideal)

3/4th:
View attachment 1536571
Every good thing I've said over and over.

Side Profile:
(This is the best pic I could find.)
View attachment 1536572
All of the angles here are amazing, rest assured.

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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
3° PCT
Slight Positve Tilt & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.84 great

Cons:
Fully Hooded Causing Eyelash 404 (Flaw #4)

Nose/
Pros: Everything
Cons: Don't Exist

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Fair Lips, but good ratio so they pass the test.
Good shape & Lip seal
Good coloring

Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw:
Pros:
Aside from it's size, it's a very good chin.
Straight Gonions
A somewhat short ramus, but what really decides that for me is the gonial angle, and his is ideal at 112.5°

Symmetry: Very Good.

Quick Recap. 4 Flaws.
1. Cyclop ESR
2. A .20 off the Ideal range of .94 to 1.1 Midface (Remeasured 5x)
3. Ogre Chin to Philtrum Ratio
4. Fully Hooded Eyes.
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Alain's Turn (7).

View attachment 1536614


FWHR: 2 (Ideal)
ESR: 45.4% (Almost a cyclop, but Ideal)
Midface Ratio: .97 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum Ratio: 2.27 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose Ratio: 1.58 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 2.4 (Unideal, his top lip is 404) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 89% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Unideal) When they aren't all equal, the order should go (Mid, Top, Lower in terms of what 3rd is the shortest vs longest.)
His are Top, Mid, Lower. Flaw #2 (This is why a 3 finger forehead isn't ideal, called 4hed for a reason)
Total FWHR: 1.31 (Ideal)

3/4ths:
View attachment 1536659
For men, the Ogee Curve is more of a plus. I'm worried about the Zygomatic Arch and it's prominence. Alain takes this one.

Side Profile:

View attachment 1536671


Only thing wrong here is the 126.7° Gonial Angle. Flaw #3

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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
Minimal UEE letting the eyelashes show.
3.5° PCT
Deep Set
White Sclera
Slight Positive Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape

Cons:
PFL to Height Ratio is only 2.87 Flaw #4

Nose/
Pros: Yes
Cons: None

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Good coloring

Cons:
Already mentioned the size
Assymetrical Lip Seal (Flaw #5). This shit is not okay Alain...

Chin/Jaw:
Pros:
Everything.

No Cons.

Symmetry: Everything, but the Lip Seal is symmetrical to the human eye.

Quick Recap.
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio
2. Facial 3rds.
3. 126.7° Gonial Angle (1.67° out the Ideal lol)
4. PFL to Height is only 2.87
5. Lip Seal.

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Jordan Barrett (7)
(YES, I KNOW THIS IS EDITED, BUT IT'S RATEABLE)
View attachment 1536710

FWHR: 2.43 (Holy shit) Flaw #1
ESR: 49% (Unideal) To my knowledge, he doesn't have African DNA. Flaw #2
Midface Ratio: 1.12 (Ideal by 0.03, he's too compact)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.43 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.86 (Unideal, I could've guessed he was gay off this ratio alone) Flaw #3
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.99 (DSL's, but still Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 90% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.26 (Too Wide once again) (Unideal) Flaw #4

3/4ths:
View attachment 1536736
Do you really need me to say why it's perfect?

Side Profile:
View attachment 1536739
Not a single unideal angle here.
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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
6° PCT
Slight Positve Tilt & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.26 great

Cons:
Fully Hooded = Eyelash 404 Flaw #5

Nose/
Pros: Yes
Cons: None.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
DSL's, but good ratio so they pass the test.
Good shape & Lip seal
Good coloring

Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw: No cons.

Quick Recap.
1. ESR is .49%, way of the caucasian ideal
2. FWHR is way too fucking high
3. Mouth to Nose is too feminine
4. Total FWHR is too low, skull overall too wide.
5. Fully Hooded Eyes.
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Jon-Erik Hexum (7)

View attachment 1536761
ESR: 46% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.03 (Ideal)
Midface: .98 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.34 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.4 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.33 (Unideal) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 90% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.34 (Ideal)
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3/4ths
View attachment 1537699
Yes.

Side Profile

View attachment 1537702
Gonial Angle (125.1 deg) Flaw # ..... haha no, I'm not that much of a bitch. .01 deg off is fine.
Unharminous Labiolmental Angle (135.6 deg) Shouldn't be above 130 or below 105. Flaw #2
This is why his chin in some candids just looks "off" (Pics provided HERE.)
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Features:

Eye Area (You know what's coming).
Pros:
Minimal UEE
Dark & Dense Brows with a slight positive tilt.
White Sclera
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.77 (Ideal)

Cons:
NCT forcedsmile Flaw #3
NCT instantly disqualifies him from almond shaped eyes. Flaw #4

Nose
Pros: The Nose.
No Cons.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Coloring is good.

Cons:
Lip seal not an exact absolute perfect straight line. Flaw #5
Size, already dicussed.

Chin/Jaw
Pros:
Flared Gonions + everything, but the cons.
Cons:
Unharminous Labiomental Angle, aleady discussed.

Quick Recap
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio is too low.
2. Unharminous Labiolmental Angle
3. NCT
4. Eye Shape
5. Lip Seal

Jeremy Meeks (7)

View attachment 1537722
ESR: 48% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.04 (Ideal)
Midface: 1.03 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.41 (Haha nice, Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.42 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.44 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 90% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 81% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.31 (Ideal)

3/4ths

View attachment 1537810
Yes.

Side Profile Done Here. (TLDR it's great)

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Features:

Eye Area/
Pros:
Minimal UEE
4 deg PCT
Almond Shape
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.44

Cons:
Eyebrows pretty much did 404. Flaw #1
Sorta Assymetrical, prevalent in most pictures. Flaw #2

Nose/
Pros:
Everything, but the cons.

Cons:
The nostrils flare out, not by a lot obviously, but it's there. Flaw #3

Mouth/
Pros:
Good Cupids Bow
Perfect Lip Seal
Good lip color contrast.

Cons:
The Oral Commisures do not meet the iris. Flaw #4

Chin/Jaw
Pros: Everything is good here, check my side profile analysis.

Quick Recap
1. Eyebrows 404
2. Assymmetry in the eye area
3. Slight Nostril Flare
4. A Narrow Mouth, within reason.

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Atesh Salih (Best Eye Area here, reminds me of that Korea guy. Also he's 49, I'm using pics from his youth).

View attachment 1537828
FWHR: 2.08 (Ideal)
ESR: 46% (Ideal)
Midface Ratio: .96 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.23 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.53 (Ideall)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 2.29 (Pitiful Atesh, just pitiful) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 81% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Bad Distro (Top -> Mid -> Lower) Flaw #2
Total FWHR: 1.3 (Ideal)

3/4ths
View attachment 1537843
Everything Ideal here. And yes, he somehow pulled off full hooding + lashes.

Side Profile.
(Sorry yall this is the best side I could find....I suspect something must be wrong with it)

View attachment 1537848

Wow, almost flawless.

Bad Nasolabial Angle. See here. Flaw #3

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Features

Eye Area: Literally Perfect.

Nose: Also also a really good nose like depoot. Just has the 1 bad angle I spoke about

Mouth/
Pros:
Good Color Contrast
Oral Commissures are within the Iris

Cons:
Bad Lip Seal Caused by top lip 404. Flaw #4

Chin/Jaw:
Amazing Jaw.
Chin being somewhat narrow, slighty smaller than the mouth. Flaw #5

Quick Recap
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio
2. Facial 3rds
3. Bad Labiomental Angle
4. Lip Seal
5. Slightly Narrow Chin
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NGL, I'm bitchin' out of measuring Pitt. Don't really wnna look at his ass rn. Will do a thread when I wake up
Sean O'No (6) No Cherrypicks, only his best shit.

View attachment 1538110View attachment 1538111View attachment 1538117

Front
View attachment 1538145
FWHR: 2.05 (Ideal)
ESR: 47.30% (Unideal for Caucasians) Flaw #1
Midface Ratio: 1:1 (Perfect)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.97 (More than fucking Drago. Unideal) Flaw #2
Mouth to Nose: 1.45 (Ideall)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.91(Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 84% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Bad Distro (Mid -> Lower -> Top) Flaw #3
Total FWHR: 1.33 (Ideal)

3/4ths: Pic Here. Had to start using imgur, passed the file limit lol.

This is his best view.

Side

View attachment 1538149



Gonial Angle 127, even higher than Delon's. Flaw #4
Nasal Angles Appear to be fine.
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Features
Eye Area/
Pros:
Eyebrows are good, but the ideal tilt is Sligthly Positive -> Positive -> Neutral. This isn't a flaw though. That would be Brad Pitt's cucked eyebrows.
PFL to Height is 3.03. Suprisingly low tbh, but within the ideal.
5 deg PCT
Almond Shape.
Cons:
Fully Hooded = Eyelash 404. This goes for anyone, but the eye area God Atesh. Haven't seen anyone else do that. Flaw #5
Noticable Assymmetry. Flaw #6 (Offcially out of the 7 range)

Nose/

Pros: The overall size, shape etc is fine. Pay attention to the cons.
Cons:
Hooked Nose Failo #7
Serious Assymmetry: Flaw #8 (Offcially in 6 range)

Mouth/
Pros: He has a really good mouth area. Everything I've been saying is ideal he has.
Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw
Pros:
Other than the size, the chin is fine.
His gonions are actually straight out like most of the 7s.
Decent Ramus Length, but all of this is overshawdowed by what I'm about to say.
Cons:
Over sized Massters.
This makes his jaw look rounded in profile & frontal view. This shit doesn't look good guys. Not on Pitt, Not on O'pry. Flaw #9.

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1. I put Amnesia and Salludon in 7 without measuring anything
Why? They didn't ask to be in my thread, but it's obvious to me they're up there. Not everyone wants their ratios n shit plastered on a big ass thread

2. Shit formatting. (Suck my dick, this is a huge ass thread)
3. I wont be measuring anyone I put below 7, exept O'pry.
4. This is objective. If your reply is along the lines of "OMG he mogs him" or "No appeal clear overrate". I'm not replying, argue amongst yourselfs. You totally missed the point of this thread, read the title again.
5. Typos (Might be a lot)
6. If I already rated the face, their name will be a link.
7. Didn't do Chico because his face is boring as fuck.

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How the numbers work around here. The scale goes 1 - 7, 1 worst 7 the highest possible.

(1/4,000,000) 7. I do not care what UNI you go to, how many "Chads" you seen today. You have never seen anyone this good looking in person. They could be in a hut, write essays on looksmax, or just not be into fame. This level is insanely high.

(1/2,000,000) 6.5. Basically the same rating as 7, but with more unideal ratios. I also would bet you've never seen this in person, but not impossible.

(1/1,600,000) 6. This person could easily get off their ass and start a modeling career and not be a meme.

(1/100,000) 5.5. Really GL guy, but nothing ridiculous (The last irl 10/10)

(1/88,000) 5. He's GL with a few flaws

(1/70,000) 4. Above avg.

(1/50,000) 3. Average

(1/It doesn't matter). The "It's Over Level"

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7's have essentially all perfect ratios, with no more than 5 being unideal, and 1 failo at most. (Negative Hooding Like Maher, hooked nose like Gandy, or T40 and Below Eye Color. You don't need blue eyes, but dirt black isn't good.
6.5's are sorta one in the same with 7s, just something MAJOR being unideal holding them back (i.e SHIT IPD)
6s have top tier ratios & features with no more than 8 being unideal. (cough cough assymetries and eye area)
5s have decent ratios with no more than 9 being unideal.
4s have bad ratios 10+ being unideal, causing a few failos.
3s have bad ratios and a huge fucking failo like a potato nose or some shit.
below 3 is not worth my time explaining.
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My list (Each name exept for Amnesia & Salludon are rated on their OBJECTIVE ratios, proportions, and features. Listed names are in NO ORDER.)

7.(Amnesia, Salludon)Korea, Elias Depoot, Hernan Drago, Alain Delon, Jordan Barrett, Jon-Erik Hexum, Jeremy Meeks, Atesh Salih, Brad Pitt (There are more, but this is all I feel like measuring rn)
Honorable Mentions I didn't feel like measuring: Matt Bomer, Chico, Vito Basso, and Mukasa.

6.5.Ian Sommerhalder, Zac Elfron, Tyler Maher, Johny Depp, Cillian Murphy. (There's more I'm tired. I'm writing this part Thurs. night, but the thread prob wont drop till saturday or some shit)

6. Sean O'pry, Alton Mason. (There are DEFINETLY MORE)

5. Dababy forcedsmile Timothee Chamalet, Jeremy Lin, (Orb)

4. Lil Wayne, Jay Z, Ed Sheeran, Adam Driver
3. Mario Jariko (Tired as fuck running out of examples)
3. DEEZ NUTS guy, Big Ed
2. Anthony Palma
1. Elephant Man
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First Up, Elias Depoot (7)

View attachment 1536368
ESR: 47% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.04 (Ideal)
Midface: 1:1 (Wow, perfect)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.47 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.69 (Too High, Flaw #1. You guys have no idea, but this is the reason why he looks "Gay", extremely feminine ratio.)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.53 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 85% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Ideal) Although they aren't all equal. His lower 3rd is the largest, and middle the shortest. Masculine facial 3rds. His 4hed his not big...
Total FWHR: 1.36 (Ideal)
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3/4ths
View attachment 1536396
Ogee Curve is great, not too forward. Very High set.
Some of the best Zygomatic Arches in human history.
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Side Profile
View attachment 1536403

(For the sake of time, I wont be listing each angle here. There's still the pics as usual, and will have "Ideal" in the photo if so vice versa.)
(Halfway thru Depoot, there's NO FUCKING WAY im doing pics for all off them, sorry. If an angle looks "off", I'll remeasure and show a picture. lol.)

Hope Depoot fans are happy, he's the only one getting pictures.
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Features

Eye Area/
Pros:
PCT (5.6°)
Slight Positive & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.44 great.

Cons:
Fully Hooded eyes causing Eyelashes 404. Even though in his side profile pic, you can see he has good lashes, just covered by hooding. (Flaw #3)

Nose/
Pros: Everything about it, maybe the best nose I'll see today.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Good lips, hence the good ratio
Coloring's good.
Good Cupids Bow.

Cons:
Squiggly Lip Seal (Resting postion of the lips. Should be perfectly straight. My last reasoning for why he looks "Gay") (Flaw #4)

Chin/Jaw:

Pros:
God Tier Chin
Great Ramus (Guys, it doesn't have to be like Hexum's to be good)
Straight Gonions.

Cons:
None

SYMMETRY: Amazing, this is super important, I'm not sparring any super assymetrical faces.

Quick Recap. Of all I measured, Depoot Has 4 Objective Flaws stopping him from being perfect (Could be more duh, but definetly not more than 5).
1. Mouth to Nose Ratio.
2. Bad Nasal Angle.
3. Fully Hooded Eyes.
4. Sqiggly Lip Seal.

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Up next, Hernan Drago(7) (Wont be grading his skin or hairline, he's 40+).
View attachment 1536518
FWHR: 2 (Ideal)
ESR: 44% (Unideal) Flaw #1 and one of the reasons why he looks "Ogre"
Midface Ratio: .92 (Unideal) Flaw #2 another reason for his "Ogre" look.
Chin to Philtrum Ratio: 2.90 (Unideal) Flaw #3 (Male Gaze nigg*s on suicide watch. His chin is just too big. Chill though, his flaws are coming to a halting stop
Mouth to Nose Ratio: 1.45 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.93 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 90% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 86% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Ideal Masculine Distribution)
Total FWHR: 1.3 (Ideal)

3/4th:
View attachment 1536571
Every good thing I've said over and over.

Side Profile:
(This is the best pic I could find.)
View attachment 1536572
All of the angles here are amazing, rest assured.

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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
3° PCT
Slight Positve Tilt & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.84 great

Cons:
Fully Hooded Causing Eyelash 404 (Flaw #4)

Nose/
Pros: Everything
Cons: Don't Exist

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Fair Lips, but good ratio so they pass the test.
Good shape & Lip seal
Good coloring

Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw:
Pros:
Aside from it's size, it's a very good chin.
Straight Gonions
A somewhat short ramus, but what really decides that for me is the gonial angle, and his is ideal at 112.5°

Symmetry: Very Good.

Quick Recap. 4 Flaws.
1. Cyclop ESR
2. A .20 off the Ideal range of .94 to 1.1 Midface (Remeasured 5x)
3. Ogre Chin to Philtrum Ratio
4. Fully Hooded Eyes.
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Alain's Turn (7).

View attachment 1536614


FWHR: 2 (Ideal)
ESR: 45.4% (Almost a cyclop, but Ideal)
Midface Ratio: .97 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum Ratio: 2.27 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose Ratio: 1.58 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 2.4 (Unideal, his top lip is 404) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 89% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Unideal) When they aren't all equal, the order should go (Mid, Top, Lower in terms of what 3rd is the shortest vs longest.)
His are Top, Mid, Lower. Flaw #2 (This is why a 3 finger forehead isn't ideal, called 4hed for a reason)
Total FWHR: 1.31 (Ideal)

3/4ths:
View attachment 1536659
For men, the Ogee Curve is more of a plus. I'm worried about the Zygomatic Arch and it's prominence. Alain takes this one.

Side Profile:

View attachment 1536671


Only thing wrong here is the 126.7° Gonial Angle. Flaw #3

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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
Minimal UEE letting the eyelashes show.
3.5° PCT
Deep Set
White Sclera
Slight Positive Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape

Cons:
PFL to Height Ratio is only 2.87 Flaw #4

Nose/
Pros: Yes
Cons: None

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Good coloring

Cons:
Already mentioned the size
Assymetrical Lip Seal (Flaw #5). This shit is not okay Alain...

Chin/Jaw:
Pros:
Everything.

No Cons.

Symmetry: Everything, but the Lip Seal is symmetrical to the human eye.

Quick Recap.
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio
2. Facial 3rds.
3. 126.7° Gonial Angle (1.67° out the Ideal lol)
4. PFL to Height is only 2.87
5. Lip Seal.

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Jordan Barrett (7)
(YES, I KNOW THIS IS EDITED, BUT IT'S RATEABLE)
View attachment 1536710

FWHR: 2.43 (Holy shit) Flaw #1
ESR: 49% (Unideal) To my knowledge, he doesn't have African DNA. Flaw #2
Midface Ratio: 1.12 (Ideal by 0.03, he's too compact)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.43 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.86 (Unideal, I could've guessed he was gay off this ratio alone) Flaw #3
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.99 (DSL's, but still Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 90% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.26 (Too Wide once again) (Unideal) Flaw #4

3/4ths:
View attachment 1536736
Do you really need me to say why it's perfect?

Side Profile:
View attachment 1536739
Not a single unideal angle here.
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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
6° PCT
Slight Positve Tilt & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.26 great

Cons:
Fully Hooded = Eyelash 404 Flaw #5

Nose/
Pros: Yes
Cons: None.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
DSL's, but good ratio so they pass the test.
Good shape & Lip seal
Good coloring

Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw: No cons.

Quick Recap.
1. ESR is .49%, way of the caucasian ideal
2. FWHR is way too fucking high
3. Mouth to Nose is too feminine
4. Total FWHR is too low, skull overall too wide.
5. Fully Hooded Eyes.
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Jon-Erik Hexum (7)

View attachment 1536761
ESR: 46% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.03 (Ideal)
Midface: .98 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.34 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.4 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.33 (Unideal) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 90% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.34 (Ideal)
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3/4ths
View attachment 1537699
Yes.

Side Profile

View attachment 1537702
Gonial Angle (125.1 deg) Flaw # ..... haha no, I'm not that much of a bitch. .01 deg off is fine.
Unharminous Labiolmental Angle (135.6 deg) Shouldn't be above 130 or below 105. Flaw #2
This is why his chin in some candids just looks "off" (Pics provided HERE.)
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Features:

Eye Area (You know what's coming).
Pros:
Minimal UEE
Dark & Dense Brows with a slight positive tilt.
White Sclera
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.77 (Ideal)

Cons:
NCT forcedsmile Flaw #3
NCT instantly disqualifies him from almond shaped eyes. Flaw #4

Nose
Pros: The Nose.
No Cons.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Coloring is good.

Cons:
Lip seal not an exact absolute perfect straight line. Flaw #5
Size, already dicussed.

Chin/Jaw
Pros:
Flared Gonions + everything, but the cons.
Cons:
Unharminous Labiomental Angle, aleady discussed.

Quick Recap
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio is too low.
2. Unharminous Labiolmental Angle
3. NCT
4. Eye Shape
5. Lip Seal

Jeremy Meeks (7)

View attachment 1537722
ESR: 48% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.04 (Ideal)
Midface: 1.03 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.41 (Haha nice, Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.42 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.44 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 90% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 81% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.31 (Ideal)

3/4ths

View attachment 1537810
Yes.

Side Profile Done Here. (TLDR it's great)

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Features:

Eye Area/
Pros:
Minimal UEE
4 deg PCT
Almond Shape
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.44

Cons:
Eyebrows pretty much did 404. Flaw #1
Sorta Assymetrical, prevalent in most pictures. Flaw #2

Nose/
Pros:
Everything, but the cons.

Cons:
The nostrils flare out, not by a lot obviously, but it's there. Flaw #3

Mouth/
Pros:
Good Cupids Bow
Perfect Lip Seal
Good lip color contrast.

Cons:
The Oral Commisures do not meet the iris. Flaw #4

Chin/Jaw
Pros: Everything is good here, check my side profile analysis.

Quick Recap
1. Eyebrows 404
2. Assymmetry in the eye area
3. Slight Nostril Flare
4. A Narrow Mouth, within reason.

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Atesh Salih (Best Eye Area here, reminds me of that Korea guy. Also he's 49, I'm using pics from his youth).

View attachment 1537828
FWHR: 2.08 (Ideal)
ESR: 46% (Ideal)
Midface Ratio: .96 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.23 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.53 (Ideall)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 2.29 (Pitiful Atesh, just pitiful) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 81% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Bad Distro (Top -> Mid -> Lower) Flaw #2
Total FWHR: 1.3 (Ideal)

3/4ths
View attachment 1537843
Everything Ideal here. And yes, he somehow pulled off full hooding + lashes.

Side Profile.
(Sorry yall this is the best side I could find....I suspect something must be wrong with it)

View attachment 1537848

Wow, almost flawless.

Bad Nasolabial Angle. See here. Flaw #3

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Features

Eye Area: Literally Perfect.

Nose: Also also a really good nose like depoot. Just has the 1 bad angle I spoke about

Mouth/
Pros:
Good Color Contrast
Oral Commissures are within the Iris

Cons:
Bad Lip Seal Caused by top lip 404. Flaw #4

Chin/Jaw:
Amazing Jaw.
Chin being somewhat narrow, slighty smaller than the mouth. Flaw #5

Quick Recap
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio
2. Facial 3rds
3. Bad Labiomental Angle
4. Lip Seal
5. Slightly Narrow Chin
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NGL, I'm bitchin' out of measuring Pitt. Don't really wnna look at his ass rn. Will do a thread when I wake up
Sean O'No (6) No Cherrypicks, only his best shit.

View attachment 1538110View attachment 1538111View attachment 1538117

Front
View attachment 1538145
FWHR: 2.05 (Ideal)
ESR: 47.30% (Unideal for Caucasians) Flaw #1
Midface Ratio: 1:1 (Perfect)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.97 (More than fucking Drago. Unideal) Flaw #2
Mouth to Nose: 1.45 (Ideall)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.91(Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 84% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Bad Distro (Mid -> Lower -> Top) Flaw #3
Total FWHR: 1.33 (Ideal)

3/4ths: Pic Here. Had to start using imgur, passed the file limit lol.

This is his best view.

Side

View attachment 1538149



Gonial Angle 127, even higher than Delon's. Flaw #4
Nasal Angles Appear to be fine.
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Features
Eye Area/
Pros:
Eyebrows are good, but the ideal tilt is Sligthly Positive -> Positive -> Neutral. This isn't a flaw though. That would be Brad Pitt's cucked eyebrows.
PFL to Height is 3.03. Suprisingly low tbh, but within the ideal.
5 deg PCT
Almond Shape.
Cons:
Fully Hooded = Eyelash 404. This goes for anyone, but the eye area God Atesh. Haven't seen anyone else do that. Flaw #5
Noticable Assymmetry. Flaw #6 (Offcially out of the 7 range)

Nose/

Pros: The overall size, shape etc is fine. Pay attention to the cons.
Cons:
Hooked Nose Failo #7
Serious Assymmetry: Flaw #8 (Offcially in 6 range)

Mouth/
Pros: He has a really good mouth area. Everything I've been saying is ideal he has.
Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw
Pros:
Other than the size, the chin is fine.
His gonions are actually straight out like most of the 7s.
Decent Ramus Length, but all of this is overshawdowed by what I'm about to say.
Cons:
Over sized Massters.
This makes his jaw look rounded in profile & frontal view. This shit doesn't look good guys. Not on Pitt, Not on O'pry. Flaw #9.

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1. I put Amnesia and Salludon in 7 without measuring anything
Why? They didn't ask to be in my thread, but it's obvious to me they're up there. Not everyone wants their ratios n shit plastered on a big ass thread

2. Shit formatting. (Suck my dick, this is a huge ass thread)
3. I wont be measuring anyone I put below 7, exept O'pry.
4. This is objective. If your reply is along the lines of "OMG he mogs him" or "No appeal clear overrate". I'm not replying, argue amongst yourselfs. You totally missed the point of this thread, read the title again.
5. Typos (Might be a lot)
6. If I already rated the face, their name will be a link.
7. Didn't do Chico because his face is boring as fuck.

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How the numbers work around here. The scale goes 1 - 7, 1 worst 7 the highest possible.

(1/4,000,000) 7. I do not care what UNI you go to, how many "Chads" you seen today. You have never seen anyone this good looking in person. They could be in a hut, write essays on looksmax, or just not be into fame. This level is insanely high.

(1/2,000,000) 6.5. Basically the same rating as 7, but with more unideal ratios. I also would bet you've never seen this in person, but not impossible.

(1/1,600,000) 6. This person could easily get off their ass and start a modeling career and not be a meme.

(1/100,000) 5.5. Really GL guy, but nothing ridiculous (The last irl 10/10)

(1/88,000) 5. He's GL with a few flaws

(1/70,000) 4. Above avg.

(1/50,000) 3. Average

(1/It doesn't matter). The "It's Over Level"

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7's have essentially all perfect ratios, with no more than 5 being unideal, and 1 failo at most. (Negative Hooding Like Maher, hooked nose like Gandy, or T40 and Below Eye Color. You don't need blue eyes, but dirt black isn't good.
6.5's are sorta one in the same with 7s, just something MAJOR being unideal holding them back (i.e SHIT IPD)
6s have top tier ratios & features with no more than 8 being unideal. (cough cough assymetries and eye area)
5s have decent ratios with no more than 9 being unideal.
4s have bad ratios 10+ being unideal, causing a few failos.
3s have bad ratios and a huge fucking failo like a potato nose or some shit.
below 3 is not worth my time explaining.
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My list (Each name exept for Amnesia & Salludon are rated on their OBJECTIVE ratios, proportions, and features. Listed names are in NO ORDER.)

7.(Amnesia, Salludon)Korea, Elias Depoot, Hernan Drago, Alain Delon, Jordan Barrett, Jon-Erik Hexum, Jeremy Meeks, Atesh Salih, Brad Pitt (There are more, but this is all I feel like measuring rn)
Honorable Mentions I didn't feel like measuring: Matt Bomer, Chico, Vito Basso, and Mukasa.

6.5.Ian Sommerhalder, Zac Elfron, Tyler Maher, Johny Depp, Cillian Murphy. (There's more I'm tired. I'm writing this part Thurs. night, but the thread prob wont drop till saturday or some shit)

6. Sean O'pry, Alton Mason. (There are DEFINETLY MORE)

5. Dababy forcedsmile Timothee Chamalet, Jeremy Lin, (Orb)

4. Lil Wayne, Jay Z, Ed Sheeran, Adam Driver
3. Mario Jariko (Tired as fuck running out of examples)
3. DEEZ NUTS guy, Big Ed
2. Anthony Palma
1. Elephant Man
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First Up, Elias Depoot (7)

View attachment 1536368
ESR: 47% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.04 (Ideal)
Midface: 1:1 (Wow, perfect)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.47 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.69 (Too High, Flaw #1. You guys have no idea, but this is the reason why he looks "Gay", extremely feminine ratio.)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.53 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 85% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Ideal) Although they aren't all equal. His lower 3rd is the largest, and middle the shortest. Masculine facial 3rds. His 4hed his not big...
Total FWHR: 1.36 (Ideal)
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3/4ths
View attachment 1536396
Ogee Curve is great, not too forward. Very High set.
Some of the best Zygomatic Arches in human history.
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Side Profile
View attachment 1536403

(For the sake of time, I wont be listing each angle here. There's still the pics as usual, and will have "Ideal" in the photo if so vice versa.)
(Halfway thru Depoot, there's NO FUCKING WAY im doing pics for all off them, sorry. If an angle looks "off", I'll remeasure and show a picture. lol.)

Hope Depoot fans are happy, he's the only one getting pictures.
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Features

Eye Area/
Pros:
PCT (5.6°)
Slight Positive & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.44 great.

Cons:
Fully Hooded eyes causing Eyelashes 404. Even though in his side profile pic, you can see he has good lashes, just covered by hooding. (Flaw #3)

Nose/
Pros: Everything about it, maybe the best nose I'll see today.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Good lips, hence the good ratio
Coloring's good.
Good Cupids Bow.

Cons:
Squiggly Lip Seal (Resting postion of the lips. Should be perfectly straight. My last reasoning for why he looks "Gay") (Flaw #4)

Chin/Jaw:

Pros:
God Tier Chin
Great Ramus (Guys, it doesn't have to be like Hexum's to be good)
Straight Gonions.

Cons:
None

SYMMETRY: Amazing, this is super important, I'm not sparring any super assymetrical faces.

Quick Recap. Of all I measured, Depoot Has 4 Objective Flaws stopping him from being perfect (Could be more duh, but definetly not more than 5).
1. Mouth to Nose Ratio.
2. Bad Nasal Angle.
3. Fully Hooded Eyes.
4. Sqiggly Lip Seal.

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Up next, Hernan Drago(7) (Wont be grading his skin or hairline, he's 40+).
View attachment 1536518
FWHR: 2 (Ideal)
ESR: 44% (Unideal) Flaw #1 and one of the reasons why he looks "Ogre"
Midface Ratio: .92 (Unideal) Flaw #2 another reason for his "Ogre" look.
Chin to Philtrum Ratio: 2.90 (Unideal) Flaw #3 (Male Gaze nigg*s on suicide watch. His chin is just too big. Chill though, his flaws are coming to a halting stop
Mouth to Nose Ratio: 1.45 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.93 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 90% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 86% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Ideal Masculine Distribution)
Total FWHR: 1.3 (Ideal)

3/4th:
View attachment 1536571
Every good thing I've said over and over.

Side Profile:
(This is the best pic I could find.)
View attachment 1536572
All of the angles here are amazing, rest assured.

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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
3° PCT
Slight Positve Tilt & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.84 great

Cons:
Fully Hooded Causing Eyelash 404 (Flaw #4)

Nose/
Pros: Everything
Cons: Don't Exist

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Fair Lips, but good ratio so they pass the test.
Good shape & Lip seal
Good coloring

Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw:
Pros:
Aside from it's size, it's a very good chin.
Straight Gonions
A somewhat short ramus, but what really decides that for me is the gonial angle, and his is ideal at 112.5°

Symmetry: Very Good.

Quick Recap. 4 Flaws.
1. Cyclop ESR
2. A .20 off the Ideal range of .94 to 1.1 Midface (Remeasured 5x)
3. Ogre Chin to Philtrum Ratio
4. Fully Hooded Eyes.
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Alain's Turn (7).

View attachment 1536614


FWHR: 2 (Ideal)
ESR: 45.4% (Almost a cyclop, but Ideal)
Midface Ratio: .97 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum Ratio: 2.27 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose Ratio: 1.58 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 2.4 (Unideal, his top lip is 404) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 89% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Unideal) When they aren't all equal, the order should go (Mid, Top, Lower in terms of what 3rd is the shortest vs longest.)
His are Top, Mid, Lower. Flaw #2 (This is why a 3 finger forehead isn't ideal, called 4hed for a reason)
Total FWHR: 1.31 (Ideal)

3/4ths:
View attachment 1536659
For men, the Ogee Curve is more of a plus. I'm worried about the Zygomatic Arch and it's prominence. Alain takes this one.

Side Profile:

View attachment 1536671


Only thing wrong here is the 126.7° Gonial Angle. Flaw #3

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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
Minimal UEE letting the eyelashes show.
3.5° PCT
Deep Set
White Sclera
Slight Positive Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape

Cons:
PFL to Height Ratio is only 2.87 Flaw #4

Nose/
Pros: Yes
Cons: None

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Good coloring

Cons:
Already mentioned the size
Assymetrical Lip Seal (Flaw #5). This shit is not okay Alain...

Chin/Jaw:
Pros:
Everything.

No Cons.

Symmetry: Everything, but the Lip Seal is symmetrical to the human eye.

Quick Recap.
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio
2. Facial 3rds.
3. 126.7° Gonial Angle (1.67° out the Ideal lol)
4. PFL to Height is only 2.87
5. Lip Seal.

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Jordan Barrett (7)
(YES, I KNOW THIS IS EDITED, BUT IT'S RATEABLE)
View attachment 1536710

FWHR: 2.43 (Holy shit) Flaw #1
ESR: 49% (Unideal) To my knowledge, he doesn't have African DNA. Flaw #2
Midface Ratio: 1.12 (Ideal by 0.03, he's too compact)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.43 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.86 (Unideal, I could've guessed he was gay off this ratio alone) Flaw #3
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.99 (DSL's, but still Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 90% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.26 (Too Wide once again) (Unideal) Flaw #4

3/4ths:
View attachment 1536736
Do you really need me to say why it's perfect?

Side Profile:
View attachment 1536739
Not a single unideal angle here.
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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
6° PCT
Slight Positve Tilt & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.26 great

Cons:
Fully Hooded = Eyelash 404 Flaw #5

Nose/
Pros: Yes
Cons: None.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
DSL's, but good ratio so they pass the test.
Good shape & Lip seal
Good coloring

Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw: No cons.

Quick Recap.
1. ESR is .49%, way of the caucasian ideal
2. FWHR is way too fucking high
3. Mouth to Nose is too feminine
4. Total FWHR is too low, skull overall too wide.
5. Fully Hooded Eyes.
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Jon-Erik Hexum (7)

View attachment 1536761
ESR: 46% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.03 (Ideal)
Midface: .98 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.34 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.4 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.33 (Unideal) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 90% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.34 (Ideal)
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3/4ths
View attachment 1537699
Yes.

Side Profile

View attachment 1537702
Gonial Angle (125.1 deg) Flaw # ..... haha no, I'm not that much of a bitch. .01 deg off is fine.
Unharminous Labiolmental Angle (135.6 deg) Shouldn't be above 130 or below 105. Flaw #2
This is why his chin in some candids just looks "off" (Pics provided HERE.)
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Features:

Eye Area (You know what's coming).
Pros:
Minimal UEE
Dark & Dense Brows with a slight positive tilt.
White Sclera
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.77 (Ideal)

Cons:
NCT forcedsmile Flaw #3
NCT instantly disqualifies him from almond shaped eyes. Flaw #4

Nose
Pros: The Nose.
No Cons.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Coloring is good.

Cons:
Lip seal not an exact absolute perfect straight line. Flaw #5
Size, already dicussed.

Chin/Jaw
Pros:
Flared Gonions + everything, but the cons.
Cons:
Unharminous Labiomental Angle, aleady discussed.

Quick Recap
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio is too low.
2. Unharminous Labiolmental Angle
3. NCT
4. Eye Shape
5. Lip Seal

Jeremy Meeks (7)

View attachment 1537722
ESR: 48% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.04 (Ideal)
Midface: 1.03 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.41 (Haha nice, Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.42 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.44 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 90% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 81% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.31 (Ideal)

3/4ths

View attachment 1537810
Yes.

Side Profile Done Here. (TLDR it's great)

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Features:

Eye Area/
Pros:
Minimal UEE
4 deg PCT
Almond Shape
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.44

Cons:
Eyebrows pretty much did 404. Flaw #1
Sorta Assymetrical, prevalent in most pictures. Flaw #2

Nose/
Pros:
Everything, but the cons.

Cons:
The nostrils flare out, not by a lot obviously, but it's there. Flaw #3

Mouth/
Pros:
Good Cupids Bow
Perfect Lip Seal
Good lip color contrast.

Cons:
The Oral Commisures do not meet the iris. Flaw #4

Chin/Jaw
Pros: Everything is good here, check my side profile analysis.

Quick Recap
1. Eyebrows 404
2. Assymmetry in the eye area
3. Slight Nostril Flare
4. A Narrow Mouth, within reason.

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Atesh Salih (Best Eye Area here, reminds me of that Korea guy. Also he's 49, I'm using pics from his youth).

View attachment 1537828
FWHR: 2.08 (Ideal)
ESR: 46% (Ideal)
Midface Ratio: .96 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.23 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.53 (Ideall)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 2.29 (Pitiful Atesh, just pitiful) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 81% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Bad Distro (Top -> Mid -> Lower) Flaw #2
Total FWHR: 1.3 (Ideal)

3/4ths
View attachment 1537843
Everything Ideal here. And yes, he somehow pulled off full hooding + lashes.

Side Profile.
(Sorry yall this is the best side I could find....I suspect something must be wrong with it)

View attachment 1537848

Wow, almost flawless.

Bad Nasolabial Angle. See here. Flaw #3

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Features

Eye Area: Literally Perfect.

Nose: Also also a really good nose like depoot. Just has the 1 bad angle I spoke about

Mouth/
Pros:
Good Color Contrast
Oral Commissures are within the Iris

Cons:
Bad Lip Seal Caused by top lip 404. Flaw #4

Chin/Jaw:
Amazing Jaw.
Chin being somewhat narrow, slighty smaller than the mouth. Flaw #5

Quick Recap
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio
2. Facial 3rds
3. Bad Labiomental Angle
4. Lip Seal
5. Slightly Narrow Chin
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NGL, I'm bitchin' out of measuring Pitt. Don't really wnna look at his ass rn. Will do a thread when I wake up
Sean O'No (6) No Cherrypicks, only his best shit.

View attachment 1538110View attachment 1538111View attachment 1538117

Front
View attachment 1538145
FWHR: 2.05 (Ideal)
ESR: 47.30% (Unideal for Caucasians) Flaw #1
Midface Ratio: 1:1 (Perfect)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.97 (More than fucking Drago. Unideal) Flaw #2
Mouth to Nose: 1.45 (Ideall)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.91(Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 84% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Bad Distro (Mid -> Lower -> Top) Flaw #3
Total FWHR: 1.33 (Ideal)

3/4ths: Pic Here. Had to start using imgur, passed the file limit lol.

This is his best view.

Side

View attachment 1538149



Gonial Angle 127, even higher than Delon's. Flaw #4
Nasal Angles Appear to be fine.
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Features
Eye Area/
Pros:
Eyebrows are good, but the ideal tilt is Sligthly Positive -> Positive -> Neutral. This isn't a flaw though. That would be Brad Pitt's cucked eyebrows.
PFL to Height is 3.03. Suprisingly low tbh, but within the ideal.
5 deg PCT
Almond Shape.
Cons:
Fully Hooded = Eyelash 404. This goes for anyone, but the eye area God Atesh. Haven't seen anyone else do that. Flaw #5
Noticable Assymmetry. Flaw #6 (Offcially out of the 7 range)

Nose/

Pros: The overall size, shape etc is fine. Pay attention to the cons.
Cons:
Hooked Nose Failo #7
Serious Assymmetry: Flaw #8 (Offcially in 6 range)

Mouth/
Pros: He has a really good mouth area. Everything I've been saying is ideal he has.
Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw
Pros:
Other than the size, the chin is fine.
His gonions are actually straight out like most of the 7s.
Decent Ramus Length, but all of this is overshawdowed by what I'm about to say.
Cons:
Over sized Massters.
This makes his jaw look rounded in profile & frontal view. This shit doesn't look good guys. Not on Pitt, Not on O'pry. Flaw #9.

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Face wise

Meeks is the PSL MOGGER in my opinion. Have yet to find someone with a better mix of features. Piercing blue eyes and hunter eyes with a dark complexion. Sets him up to be the PSL benchmark

Face and body Gandy takes the crown

 

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1. I put Amnesia and Salludon in 7 without measuring anything
Why? They didn't ask to be in my thread, but it's obvious to me they're up there. Not everyone wants their ratios n shit plastered on a big ass thread

2. Shit formatting. (Suck my dick, this is a huge ass thread)
3. I wont be measuring anyone I put below 7, exept O'pry.
4. This is objective. If your reply is along the lines of "OMG he mogs him" or "No appeal clear overrate". I'm not replying, argue amongst yourselfs. You totally missed the point of this thread, read the title again.
5. Typos (Might be a lot)
6. If I already rated the face, their name will be a link.
7. Didn't do Chico because his face is boring as fuck.

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How the numbers work around here. The scale goes 1 - 7, 1 worst 7 the highest possible.

(1/4,000,000) 7. I do not care what UNI you go to, how many "Chads" you seen today. You have never seen anyone this good looking in person. They could be in a hut, write essays on looksmax, or just not be into fame. This level is insanely high.

(1/2,000,000) 6.5. Basically the same rating as 7, but with more unideal ratios. I also would bet you've never seen this in person, but not impossible.

(1/1,600,000) 6. This person could easily get off their ass and start a modeling career and not be a meme.

(1/100,000) 5.5. Really GL guy, but nothing ridiculous (The last irl 10/10)

(1/88,000) 5. He's GL with a few flaws

(1/70,000) 4. Above avg.

(1/50,000) 3. Average

(1/It doesn't matter). The "It's Over Level"

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7's have essentially all perfect ratios, with no more than 5 being unideal, and 1 failo at most. (Negative Hooding Like Maher, hooked nose like Gandy, or T40 and Below Eye Color. You don't need blue eyes, but dirt black isn't good.
6.5's are sorta one in the same with 7s, just something MAJOR being unideal holding them back (i.e SHIT IPD)
6s have top tier ratios & features with no more than 8 being unideal. (cough cough assymetries and eye area)
5s have decent ratios with no more than 9 being unideal.
4s have bad ratios 10+ being unideal, causing a few failos.
3s have bad ratios and a huge fucking failo like a potato nose or some shit.
below 3 is not worth my time explaining.
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My list (Each name exept for Amnesia & Salludon are rated on their OBJECTIVE ratios, proportions, and features. Listed names are in NO ORDER.)

7.(Amnesia, Salludon)Korea, Elias Depoot, Hernan Drago, Alain Delon, Jordan Barrett, Jon-Erik Hexum, Jeremy Meeks, Atesh Salih, Brad Pitt (There are more, but this is all I feel like measuring rn)
Honorable Mentions I didn't feel like measuring: Matt Bomer, Chico, Vito Basso, and Mukasa.

6.5.Ian Sommerhalder, Zac Elfron, Tyler Maher, Johny Depp, Cillian Murphy. (There's more I'm tired. I'm writing this part Thurs. night, but the thread prob wont drop till saturday or some shit)

6. Sean O'pry, Alton Mason. (There are DEFINETLY MORE)

5. Dababy forcedsmile Timothee Chamalet, Jeremy Lin, (Orb)

4. Lil Wayne, Jay Z, Ed Sheeran, Adam Driver
3. Mario Jariko (Tired as fuck running out of examples)
3. DEEZ NUTS guy, Big Ed
2. Anthony Palma
1. Elephant Man
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First Up, Elias Depoot (7)

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ESR: 47% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.04 (Ideal)
Midface: 1:1 (Wow, perfect)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.47 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.69 (Too High, Flaw #1. You guys have no idea, but this is the reason why he looks "Gay", extremely feminine ratio.)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.53 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 85% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Ideal) Although they aren't all equal. His lower 3rd is the largest, and middle the shortest. Masculine facial 3rds. His 4hed his not big...
Total FWHR: 1.36 (Ideal)
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3/4ths
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Ogee Curve is great, not too forward. Very High set.
Some of the best Zygomatic Arches in human history.
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Side Profile
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(For the sake of time, I wont be listing each angle here. There's still the pics as usual, and will have "Ideal" in the photo if so vice versa.)
(Halfway thru Depoot, there's NO FUCKING WAY im doing pics for all off them, sorry. If an angle looks "off", I'll remeasure and show a picture. lol.)

Hope Depoot fans are happy, he's the only one getting pictures.
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Features

Eye Area/
Pros:
PCT (5.6°)
Slight Positive & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.44 great.

Cons:
Fully Hooded eyes causing Eyelashes 404. Even though in his side profile pic, you can see he has good lashes, just covered by hooding. (Flaw #3)

Nose/
Pros: Everything about it, maybe the best nose I'll see today.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Good lips, hence the good ratio
Coloring's good.
Good Cupids Bow.

Cons:
Squiggly Lip Seal (Resting postion of the lips. Should be perfectly straight. My last reasoning for why he looks "Gay") (Flaw #4)

Chin/Jaw:

Pros:
God Tier Chin
Great Ramus (Guys, it doesn't have to be like Hexum's to be good)
Straight Gonions.

Cons:
None

SYMMETRY: Amazing, this is super important, I'm not sparring any super assymetrical faces.

Quick Recap. Of all I measured, Depoot Has 4 Objective Flaws stopping him from being perfect (Could be more duh, but definetly not more than 5).
1. Mouth to Nose Ratio.
2. Bad Nasal Angle.
3. Fully Hooded Eyes.
4. Sqiggly Lip Seal.

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Up next, Hernan Drago(7) (Wont be grading his skin or hairline, he's 40+).
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FWHR: 2 (Ideal)
ESR: 44% (Unideal) Flaw #1 and one of the reasons why he looks "Ogre"
Midface Ratio: .92 (Unideal) Flaw #2 another reason for his "Ogre" look.
Chin to Philtrum Ratio: 2.90 (Unideal) Flaw #3 (Male Gaze nigg*s on suicide watch. His chin is just too big. Chill though, his flaws are coming to a halting stop
Mouth to Nose Ratio: 1.45 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.93 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 90% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 86% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Ideal Masculine Distribution)
Total FWHR: 1.3 (Ideal)

3/4th:
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Every good thing I've said over and over.

Side Profile:
(This is the best pic I could find.)
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All of the angles here are amazing, rest assured.

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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
3° PCT
Slight Positve Tilt & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.84 great

Cons:
Fully Hooded Causing Eyelash 404 (Flaw #4)

Nose/
Pros: Everything
Cons: Don't Exist

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Fair Lips, but good ratio so they pass the test.
Good shape & Lip seal
Good coloring

Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw:
Pros:
Aside from it's size, it's a very good chin.
Straight Gonions
A somewhat short ramus, but what really decides that for me is the gonial angle, and his is ideal at 112.5°

Symmetry: Very Good.

Quick Recap. 4 Flaws.
1. Cyclop ESR
2. A .20 off the Ideal range of .94 to 1.1 Midface (Remeasured 5x)
3. Ogre Chin to Philtrum Ratio
4. Fully Hooded Eyes.
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Alain's Turn (7).

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FWHR: 2 (Ideal)
ESR: 45.4% (Almost a cyclop, but Ideal)
Midface Ratio: .97 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum Ratio: 2.27 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose Ratio: 1.58 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 2.4 (Unideal, his top lip is 404) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 89% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: (Unideal) When they aren't all equal, the order should go (Mid, Top, Lower in terms of what 3rd is the shortest vs longest.)
His are Top, Mid, Lower. Flaw #2 (This is why a 3 finger forehead isn't ideal, called 4hed for a reason)
Total FWHR: 1.31 (Ideal)

3/4ths:
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For men, the Ogee Curve is more of a plus. I'm worried about the Zygomatic Arch and it's prominence. Alain takes this one.

Side Profile:

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Only thing wrong here is the 126.7° Gonial Angle. Flaw #3

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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
Minimal UEE letting the eyelashes show.
3.5° PCT
Deep Set
White Sclera
Slight Positive Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape

Cons:
PFL to Height Ratio is only 2.87 Flaw #4

Nose/
Pros: Yes
Cons: None

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Good coloring

Cons:
Already mentioned the size
Assymetrical Lip Seal (Flaw #5). This shit is not okay Alain...

Chin/Jaw:
Pros:
Everything.

No Cons.

Symmetry: Everything, but the Lip Seal is symmetrical to the human eye.

Quick Recap.
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio
2. Facial 3rds.
3. 126.7° Gonial Angle (1.67° out the Ideal lol)
4. PFL to Height is only 2.87
5. Lip Seal.

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Jordan Barrett (7)
(YES, I KNOW THIS IS EDITED, BUT IT'S RATEABLE)
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FWHR: 2.43 (Holy shit) Flaw #1
ESR: 49% (Unideal) To my knowledge, he doesn't have African DNA. Flaw #2
Midface Ratio: 1.12 (Ideal by 0.03, he's too compact)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.43 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.86 (Unideal, I could've guessed he was gay off this ratio alone) Flaw #3
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.99 (DSL's, but still Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 88% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 90% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.26 (Too Wide once again) (Unideal) Flaw #4

3/4ths:
View attachment 1536736
Do you really need me to say why it's perfect?

Side Profile:
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Not a single unideal angle here.
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Features:

Eyes/
Pros:
6° PCT
Slight Positve Tilt & Dark Eyebrows
Almond Shape
White Sclera
Deep Set
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.26 great

Cons:
Fully Hooded = Eyelash 404 Flaw #5

Nose/
Pros: Yes
Cons: None.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
DSL's, but good ratio so they pass the test.
Good shape & Lip seal
Good coloring

Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw: No cons.

Quick Recap.
1. ESR is .49%, way of the caucasian ideal
2. FWHR is way too fucking high
3. Mouth to Nose is too feminine
4. Total FWHR is too low, skull overall too wide.
5. Fully Hooded Eyes.
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Jon-Erik Hexum (7)

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ESR: 46% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.03 (Ideal)
Midface: .98 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.34 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.4 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.33 (Unideal) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 90% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.34 (Ideal)
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3/4ths
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Yes.

Side Profile

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Gonial Angle (125.1 deg) Flaw # ..... haha no, I'm not that much of a bitch. .01 deg off is fine.
Unharminous Labiolmental Angle (135.6 deg) Shouldn't be above 130 or below 105. Flaw #2
This is why his chin in some candids just looks "off" (Pics provided HERE.)
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Features:

Eye Area (You know what's coming).
Pros:
Minimal UEE
Dark & Dense Brows with a slight positive tilt.
White Sclera
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.77 (Ideal)

Cons:
NCT forcedsmile Flaw #3
NCT instantly disqualifies him from almond shaped eyes. Flaw #4

Nose
Pros: The Nose.
No Cons.

Mouth/
Pros:
Oral Commissures are within the Iris
Coloring is good.

Cons:
Lip seal not an exact absolute perfect straight line. Flaw #5
Size, already dicussed.

Chin/Jaw
Pros:
Flared Gonions + everything, but the cons.
Cons:
Unharminous Labiomental Angle, aleady discussed.

Quick Recap
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio is too low.
2. Unharminous Labiolmental Angle
3. NCT
4. Eye Shape
5. Lip Seal

Jeremy Meeks (7)

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ESR: 48% (Ideal)
FWHR: 2.04 (Ideal)
Midface: 1.03 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.41 (Haha nice, Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.42 (Ideal)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.44 (Ideal)
Zygomatic to Bigonial Width: 90% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 81% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Masculine Distribution (Ideal)
Total FWHR: 1.31 (Ideal)

3/4ths

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Yes.

Side Profile Done Here. (TLDR it's great)

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Features:

Eye Area/
Pros:
Minimal UEE
4 deg PCT
Almond Shape
PFL to Height Ratio is 3.44

Cons:
Eyebrows pretty much did 404. Flaw #1
Sorta Assymetrical, prevalent in most pictures. Flaw #2

Nose/
Pros:
Everything, but the cons.

Cons:
The nostrils flare out, not by a lot obviously, but it's there. Flaw #3

Mouth/
Pros:
Good Cupids Bow
Perfect Lip Seal
Good lip color contrast.

Cons:
The Oral Commisures do not meet the iris. Flaw #4

Chin/Jaw
Pros: Everything is good here, check my side profile analysis.

Quick Recap
1. Eyebrows 404
2. Assymmetry in the eye area
3. Slight Nostril Flare
4. A Narrow Mouth, within reason.

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Atesh Salih (Best Eye Area here, reminds me of that Korea guy. Also he's 49, I'm using pics from his youth).

View attachment 1537828
FWHR: 2.08 (Ideal)
ESR: 46% (Ideal)
Midface Ratio: .96 (Ideal)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.23 (Ideal)
Mouth to Nose: 1.53 (Ideall)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 2.29 (Pitiful Atesh, just pitiful) Flaw #1
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 81% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Bad Distro (Top -> Mid -> Lower) Flaw #2
Total FWHR: 1.3 (Ideal)

3/4ths
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Everything Ideal here. And yes, he somehow pulled off full hooding + lashes.

Side Profile.
(Sorry yall this is the best side I could find....I suspect something must be wrong with it)

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Wow, almost flawless.

Bad Nasolabial Angle. See here. Flaw #3

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Features

Eye Area: Literally Perfect.

Nose: Also also a really good nose like depoot. Just has the 1 bad angle I spoke about

Mouth/
Pros:
Good Color Contrast
Oral Commissures are within the Iris

Cons:
Bad Lip Seal Caused by top lip 404. Flaw #4

Chin/Jaw:
Amazing Jaw.
Chin being somewhat narrow, slighty smaller than the mouth. Flaw #5

Quick Recap
1. Lower to Upper Lip Ratio
2. Facial 3rds
3. Bad Labiomental Angle
4. Lip Seal
5. Slightly Narrow Chin
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NGL, I'm bitchin' out of measuring Pitt. Don't really wnna look at his ass rn. Will do a thread when I wake up
Sean O'No (6) No Cherrypicks, only his best shit.

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Front
View attachment 1538145
FWHR: 2.05 (Ideal)
ESR: 47.30% (Unideal for Caucasians) Flaw #1
Midface Ratio: 1:1 (Perfect)
Chin to Philtrum: 2.97 (More than fucking Drago. Unideal) Flaw #2
Mouth to Nose: 1.45 (Ideall)
Lower to Upper Lip Ratio: 1.91(Ideal)
Zygomatic to Gonial Width: 87% (Ideal)
Bitemporal to Zygomatic Width: 84% (Ideal)
Facial 3rds: Bad Distro (Mid -> Lower -> Top) Flaw #3
Total FWHR: 1.33 (Ideal)

3/4ths: Pic Here. Had to start using imgur, passed the file limit lol.

This is his best view.

Side

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Gonial Angle 127, even higher than Delon's. Flaw #4
Nasal Angles Appear to be fine.
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Features
Eye Area/
Pros:
Eyebrows are good, but the ideal tilt is Sligthly Positive -> Positive -> Neutral. This isn't a flaw though. That would be Brad Pitt's cucked eyebrows.
PFL to Height is 3.03. Suprisingly low tbh, but within the ideal.
5 deg PCT
Almond Shape.
Cons:
Fully Hooded = Eyelash 404. This goes for anyone, but the eye area God Atesh. Haven't seen anyone else do that. Flaw #5
Noticable Assymmetry. Flaw #6 (Offcially out of the 7 range)

Nose/

Pros: The overall size, shape etc is fine. Pay attention to the cons.
Cons:
Hooked Nose Failo #7
Serious Assymmetry: Flaw #8 (Offcially in 6 range)

Mouth/
Pros: He has a really good mouth area. Everything I've been saying is ideal he has.
Cons: None.

Chin/Jaw
Pros:
Other than the size, the chin is fine.
His gonions are actually straight out like most of the 7s.
Decent Ramus Length, but all of this is overshawdowed by what I'm about to say.
Cons:
Over sized Massters.
This makes his jaw look rounded in profile & frontal view. This shit doesn't look good guys. Not on Pitt, Not on O'pry. Flaw #9.

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The main difference is IPD.

IPD effects all of those ratios significantly.

IPD has zero effect on fwhr