Okay I was wrong, gymcelling is EVERYTHING even if you have a bad frame

is there any way to tell if i have capped delts when i’m skinny af
yeah pretty easily just check for angularity

sadly if you do have good delts I feel like you'd have noticed already
 
yeah pretty easily just check for angularity

sadly if you do have good delts I feel like you'd have noticed already
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idk how to tell tbh, is that it? @cocainecowboy
 
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Fail logic is fail they already have decent shoulder bones even before roiding. Narrow shoulders is what makes a bad frame bad. These dudes were not framecels, they were just skinny.
 
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idk how to tell tbh, is that it? @cocainecowboy
looks good tbh. its not a yes or no question, its a spectrum

all muscles just increase in size while keeping their original shale with gymcelling so you need the muscles to be well shaped in the first place to look good
 
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Fail logic is fail they already have decent shoulder bones even before roiding. Narrow shoulders is what makes a bad frame bad. These dudes were not framecels, they were just skinny.

third guys biacromion is as wide as his hips, that's definitely not a good frame
 
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well no shit

if face below average then NOTHING saves u except money and status. water is wet type of shit

Surgeries can save you, but that goes hand in hand with money I guess
 
good thread kiss yourself

Tenor
 
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idk how to tell tbh, is that it? @cocainecowboy
what @cocainecowboy said tbh

it's not the best but it's definitely good.
Fail logic is fail they already have decent shoulder bones even before roiding. Narrow shoulders is what makes a bad frame bad. These dudes were not framecels, they were just skinny.
yeah no

thats not true at all, especially in the case of #2 & #4. It's clear you've never lifted a damn thing in your life.
 
Gymcelling is only good for keeping low bf% so you're face is more defined.

Face>>>>Everything else
 
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People are retards man most frames are averages and will benefit from having muscle mass on top of it, its only extreme cases of framecelism that it makes a difference and looks funny.
 
Gymcelling is legit looksmax , but normie gymcelling may make some people looks worse
1. Neck
2. Shoulders
3. Chest
4. Lats, Arms, Traps equal importance

Nah damit , i cannot decide which muscles are most important
Just do some pulling, pushing and be low body fat is legit
natural gymceling is cope unless you have legit very high T levels.

low dose roiding + gymceing + low bodyfat is the way to go.
 
first guy got a lot better but the last guy descended, he aged like shit
 
natural gymceling is cope unless you have legit very high T levels.

low dose roiding + gymceing + low bodyfat is the way to go.
Works for me i am fast gainer
One week of intense and i am noticable bigger
And i feel i have T levels of a toddler these days
 
DAILY REMINDER THIS IS A NATURALLY ACHIEVEABLE PHYSIQUE (WITH REQUIRED FRAME AND INSERTIONS) IN 5 YEARS (LIKE HE DID IT)

 
DAILY REMINDER THIS IS A NATURALLY ACHIEVEABLE PHYSIQUE (WITH REQUIRED FRAME AND INSERTIONS) IN 5 YEARS (LIKE HE DID IT)




Here is another misconception, why you might be able to get to his size and bodyfat (realistically none of u will), your body won't look like that, theres a specific look that AAS gives that no natties can get.
 
Here is another misconception, why you might be able to get to his size and bodyfat (realistically none of u will), your body won't look like that, theres a specific look that AAS gives that no natties can get.
DIDNT READ A SINGLE WORD


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They all look better except the last one... he would look better if he had a bit more bodyfat. Look at Christian Bale in the Machinist... looked like dogshit then a year later like a god in Batman Begins.
 
going to the gym to fill in your FRAME is a LOOKSMAX. but when you overdue it you look like the typical gymcel and it becomes a looksmin there's a balance
 
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DAILY REMINDER THIS IS A NATURALLY ACHIEVEABLE PHYSIQUE (WITH REQUIRED FRAME AND INSERTIONS) IN 5 YEARS (LIKE HE DID IT)



Know next to nothing about lifting but I feel like Laid just looks insane shirtless because he has a smaller head and great muscle belly insertions. In clothing with no pump he looks totally natural, just very athletic.
 
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Know next to nothing about lifting but I feel like Laid just looks insane shirtless because he has a smaller head and great muscle belly insertions. In clothing with no pump he looks totally natural, just very athletic.
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indeed son. he has god tier muscle tissue insertions and skeletal frame proportions and genetically exteemely low bf% from birth (as seen on childhood pics too)
 
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