STEROIDS/TESTOSTERONE FOR MASCULINE FACE (HIGH IQ THREAD)

[goat2x]

im gonna split this thread in to 3 stages​

-prenatal(most important)
-puberty
-adult hood

Prenatal Testosterone:This stage is the most important out of the 3 stages this effects your facial dimorphism the most qoutes from the study :

" While testosterone surges and associated growth spurts during puberty exaggerate existing sex differences in face structure, it has been postulated that the pre-existing sexual dimorphism in face structure is related to differences in prenatal testosterone exposure"
" This study provides the first direct evidence of a link between prenatal testosterone exposure and human facial structure. "
exposing your son to to much testosterone trough prenatal year can lead to autism
so my advice is to
-pray that your son wont be a low t fag
-tell ur gf to dont do autistic shit
-have good genes

-Puberty testosterone(12-18): many users fall into this category so maybe that will help some users, Serum T levels and masculine face were correlated in puberty:
"Identification accuracy correlated highly with specific MRI-derived facial features (e.g. broader forehead, chin, jaw, and nose). Facial features that most reliably cued male identity were associated with plasma levels of testosterone "
another proof of it is this study:
"At the beginning of the study, statural height, mandibular ramus length, upper anterior face height, and total cranial base length were significantly shorter in the delayed puberty boys than in the controls. After 1 year, the growth rate of the statural height, total mandibular length, ramus length, and upper and total anterior face height was significantly higher in the treated boys than in the untreated height-matched control"
they gave low testosterone dosages to boys with delayed puberty and guess what faggots
after the testosterone dosage their face became more masculine aka(wider chin,longer chin,bigger forehead, larger jaw)
-cyp19a1 gene infcluences jaw growth(genetic)

tl:dr Taking testosterone at puberty will probably result in a more sexual dimorphic face

adult: Now if ur over 18 taking testosterone is worthless for facial masculinization.
in the first study they found no correlation between high prenatal T faces(masculine face) and adult testosterone levels
" Pearson correlations presented in table 1 revealed no statistically significant relationship between testosterone correlations in these samples and facial gender scores "
another proof of this is this study
" Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been proposed as a sexually dimorphic signal in humans that develops under the influence of pubertal testosterone (T); however, no studies have examined the association between fWHR and T during the phase in which facial growth is canalized—adolescence. "
in puberty fhwr is associated with high levels of testosterone but not in adults
=TAKING TESTOSTERONE FOR FACIAL MASCULINIZATION IN ADULTHOOD = WORTHLESS



what i mean by facial dimorphism,more masculine face?
-wider longer chin, higher fhwr, wider nose:

basically this


bonus: Mike Mew jew busted its all about puberty, genetics

"A quantitative trait locus that influences male pubertal sagittal jaw growth might exist in the CYP19A1 gene, "

Association between CYP19A1 genotype and pubertal sagittal jaw growth

Sagittal jaw growth is influenced during puberty by a ratio of androgens and estrogens. The CYP19A1 (formerly CYP19) gene encodes the cytochrome P450 enzyme aromatase (estrogen synthetase), which converts testosterone to estrogen. Genetic variations including ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

the studies i used:

Prenatal testosterone exposure is related to sexually dimorphic facial morphology in adulthood

Prenatal testosterone may have a powerful masculinizing effect on postnatal physical characteristics. However, no study has directly tested this hypothesis. Here, we report a 20-year follow-up study that measured testosterone concentrations from the umbilical ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Effect of low-dose testosterone treatment on craniofacial growth in boys with delayed puberty - PubMed

<p>Craniofacial growth was investigated in boys treated with low-dose testosterone for delayed puberty (> 14 years old; testicular volume < 4 ml; n = 7) and compared with controls (12-14 years; n = 37). Cephalometric radiographs, statural height and pubertal stage were recorded at the start of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Testosterone-mediated sex differences in the face shape during adolescence: Subjective impressions and objective features

Sex identification of a face is essential for social cognition. Still, perceptual cues indicating the sex of a face, and mechanisms underlying their d…

www.sciencedirect.com

Facial Width-To-Height Ratio (fWHR) Is Not Associated with Adolescent Testosterone Levels

Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been proposed as a sexually dimorphic signal in humans that develops under the influence of pubertal testosterone (T); however, no studies have examined the association between fWHR and T during the phase in which ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

last words: many users here dont understand that Masculine Faces doesnt always mean that its very good looking
you need feminine features aswell
take these studies how you will
feel free to discuss below

 

[Deleted member 6873]

so you are saying

inject t

 

[goat2x]

so you are saying

inject t

Read the thread
Its literally takes 2 minutes to read it

 

[goat2x]

so you are saying

inject t

they found a correlation between Puberty T and facial dimoprhism thats all im saying
take it how you want to

 

[shortretrudedchin]

There is still someone who think that they will develop a neandhertal skull with androgens in adulthood? I mean,hypertrophy of the face muscles and low facial fat/masculine fat distribution is all well and good,but is not gonna make a rat faced twink into some all american jock

 

[goat2x]

btw this is my last high iq thread
i get more viewers/reacts when i post porn

 

[goat2x]

There is still someone who think that they will develop a neandhertal skull with androgens in adulthood? I mean,hypertrophy of the face muscles and low facial fat/masculine fat distribution is all well and good,but is not gonna make a rat faced twink into some all american jock

yes there are still some idiots
thats why i made this thread and because i found the puberty T interesting

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

in puberty fhwr is associated with high levels of testosterone

yes but the association is very weak
only 8-13% of the variance of fwhr is accounted for by adolescent test levels if I remember correctly.

what i mean by facial dimorphism,more masculine face?
-wider longer chin, higher fhwr, wider nose:

fwhr doesn't appear to be sexually dimorphic, asides from that good thread, something you didn't mention is that a good test to est ratio is also necessary for having good masculine development. In the modern world hormones are so fucked, ensuring a good hormonal profile during puberty is beyond crucial.

 

[goat2x]

yes but the association is very weak
only 8-13% of the variance of fwhr is accounted for by adolescent test levels if I remember correctly.


fwhr doesn't appear to be sexually dimorphic, asides from that good thread, something you didn't mention is that a good test to est ratio is also necessary for having good masculine development. In the modern world hormones are so fucked, ensuring a good hormonal profile during puberty is beyond crucial.

its the cheekbones,wider face which is sexually more dimorphic
and you didnt read what i said
Adult T and Fhwr isnt correlated

 

[goat2x]

yes but the association is very weak
only 8-13% of the variance of fwhr is accounted for by adolescent test levels if I remember correctly.


fwhr doesn't appear to be sexually dimorphic, asides from that good thread, something you didn't mention is that a good test to est ratio is also necessary for having good masculine development. In the modern world hormones are so fucked, ensuring a good hormonal profile during puberty is beyond crucial.

and i just wanted to touch on steroids/test
imagine if i bring other hormones to the thread
it would be just a waste of time like i said the porn thread i posted which took 10 seconds to make has more viewers than this thread

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

its the cheekbones,wider face which is sexually more dimorphic
and you didnt read what i said
Adult T and Fhwr isnt correlated

Wider face MIGHT be sexually dimorphic, there’s a lot of conflicting evidence and such.
better not to state with confidence yet imo

Commentary: Sexual Dimorphism of Facial Width-to-Height Ratio in Human Skulls and Faces: A Meta-Analytical Approach

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

read these commentary talking about fwhr as a sexually dimorphism trait, it’s really not clear cut either way.

and I did read the thread bro Ik you said that adult t and fwhr aren’t correlatEd but you also said “in puberty fhwr is associated with high levels of testosterone”

but there are studies specifically examining the effects of test on fwhr in adolescence abs they find no association

Facial Width-To-Height Ratio (fWHR) Is Not Associated with Adolescent Testosterone Levels

Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been proposed as a sexually dimorphic signal in humans that develops under the influence of pubertal testosterone (T); however, no studies have examined the association between fWHR and T during the phase in which facial growth is canalized—adolescence. In...

journals.plos.org

all the studies I read on fwhr seem to have others saying the exact opposite, it’s really not a well understood measurement

 

[goat2x]

Wider face MIGHT be sexually dimorphic, there’s a lot of conflicting evidence and such.
better not to state with confidence yet imo

Commentary: Sexual Dimorphism of Facial Width-to-Height Ratio in Human Skulls and Faces: A Meta-Analytical Approach

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

read these commentary talking about fwhr as a sexually dimorphism trait, it’s really not clear cut either way.

and I did read the thread bro Ik you said that adult t and fwhr aren’t correlatEd but you also said “in puberty fhwr is associated with high levels of testosterone”

but there are studies specifically examining the effects of test on fwhr in adolescence abs they find no association

Facial Width-To-Height Ratio (fWHR) Is Not Associated with Adolescent Testosterone Levels

Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been proposed as a sexually dimorphic signal in humans that develops under the influence of pubertal testosterone (T); however, no studies have examined the association between fWHR and T during the phase in which facial growth is canalized—adolescence. In...

journals.plos.org

all the studies I read on fwhr seem to have others saying the exact opposite, it’s really not a well understood measurement

Yes bro, but they found a correlation in Puberty yet they found no correlation between adults
the study you linked basically agrees but says that there are better ways to predict high levels of Testosterone

but yeah
fhwr is pretty flawed measurement
but i think high levels of puberty T. prenatal T plays a role in a wider face
thats just my opinion

 

[Deleted member 6403]

don't wanna fuck up hormones injecting during puberty

 

[goat2x]

don't wanna fuck up hormones injecting during puberty

its your choice bro
i just stated the fact you might develop more dimorphic face if u inject thats it
if ur dimorphic already that good

 

[goat2x]

bump

 

[goat2x]

@hairyballscel

 

[mido the slayer]

Wouldn’t making your child healthy such as making him doing sport,healthy diet,sleep would that maximize his potential?
I didn’t read the whole thread

 

[MogTheMogger]

if you're young and dont do anything on this thread you deserve to be a truecel forever ded srs tbh tbh tbh jfl

 

[goat2x]

Wouldn’t making your child healthy such as making him doing sport,healthy diet,sleep would that maximize his potential?
I didn’t read the whole thread

it would maximize his potential
but that "potential" probably wouldnt be enough because its mostly genetics how you look

if you're young and dont do anything on this thread you deserve to be a truecel forever ded srs tbh tbh tbh jfl

Mirin the low iq fag
i mentioned a drug /substance to take in this thread u utterly retarded subhuman
i just stated the facts

 

[MogTheMogger]

it would maximize his potential
but that "potential" probably wouldnt be enough because its mostly genetics how you look

Mirin the low iq fag
i mentioned a drug /substance to take in this thread u utterly retarded subhuman
i just stated the facts

living rent free in your pathetic head you subhuman, keep barking for me you moutbreather fag

 

[goat2x]

living rent free in your pathetic head you subhuman, keep barking for me you moutbreather fag

smh
you replied to my thread you utterly weak faggot
i dont even know who the fuck you are
i just destroyed your weak attempt thats it
keep crying

Wouldn’t making your child healthy such as making him doing sport,healthy diet,sleep would that maximize his potential?
I didn’t read the whole thread

people here massively downplay genetics like:
"muh if i wouldnt mouthbreath i would be chad"
-no you wouldnt be chad lol

 

[mido the slayer]

smh
you replied to my thread you utterly weak faggot
i dont even know who the fuck you are
i just destroyed your weak attempt thats it
keep crying

people here massively downplay genetics like:
"muh if i wouldnt mouthbreath i would be chad"
-no you wouldnt be chad lol

Cope

than explain how Dutch males went from 5’7 height on average like 100 years ago to 6’1

 

[goat2x]

Cope

than explain how Dutch males went from 5’7 height on average like 100 years ago to 6’1

thats height man jfl
did their facial structure change?
also there is a difference between not eating for days,working on under heavy load compared to a modern lifestyle
if u dont have somekind of nasal problems you didnt ruin your looks that much trust me

 

[goat2x]

Cope

than explain how Dutch males went from 5’7 height on average like 100 years ago to 6’1

thats like comparing a kid with sleep apnea with deviated septum, 4 extractions ,camouflage with rubberbands
to a kid who mewed his whole life like obviously in that case there will be a difference

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

So I need to inject t?

 

[Copemaxxing]

I started puberty at like 10-11 and thats the time I started working out tbh. My t levels are high. But I cant really tell if my face is sexually demorphic cause of my shitty skeletal deepbite.

 

[goat2x]

I started puberty at like 10-11 and thats the time I started working out tbh. My t levels are high. But I cant really tell if my face is sexually demorphic cause of my shitty skeletal deepbite.

there are other ways to tell it

 

[Mr.cope]

Pretty much over for anyone 17 and over

 

[Copemaxxing]

there are other ways to tell it

are very lowset eyebrows a indicator?

 

[mido the slayer]

thats height man jfl
did their facial structure change?
also there is a difference between not eating for days,working on under heavy load compared to a modern lifestyle
if u dont have somekind of nasal problems you didnt ruin your looks that much trust me

Yeah maybe you are right

but hunter gatherers had stronger bones than modern human

no I did not have nasel problem

 

[goat2x]

are very lowset eyebrows a indicator?

look at the illustration i posted
i wrote a discription aswell

 

[Copemaxxing]

look at the illustration i posted
i wrote a discription aswell

yes based on this my face is Quite demorphic. Still need bimax too not look weird. But you‘re right. A too masculine face is ugly imo

 

[goat2x]

mirin the high iq

 

[goat2x]

@Chintuck22

 

[DrTony]

im gonna split this thread in to 3 stages​

-prenatal(most important)
-puberty
-adult hood

Prenatal Testosterone:This stage is the most important out of the 3 stages this effects your facial dimorphism the most qoutes from the study :

" While testosterone surges and associated growth spurts during puberty exaggerate existing sex differences in face structure, it has been postulated that the pre-existing sexual dimorphism in face structure is related to differences in prenatal testosterone exposure"
" This study provides the first direct evidence of a link between prenatal testosterone exposure and human facial structure. "
exposing your son to to much testosterone trough prenatal year can lead to autism
so my advice is to
-pray that your son wont be a low t fag
-tell ur gf to dont do autistic shit
-have good genes

-Puberty testosterone(12-18): many users fall into this category so maybe that will help some users, Serum T levels and masculine face were correlated in puberty:
"Identification accuracy correlated highly with specific MRI-derived facial features (e.g. broader forehead, chin, jaw, and nose). Facial features that most reliably cued male identity were associated with plasma levels of testosterone "
another proof of it is this study:
"At the beginning of the study, statural height, mandibular ramus length, upper anterior face height, and total cranial base length were significantly shorter in the delayed puberty boys than in the controls. After 1 year, the growth rate of the statural height, total mandibular length, ramus length, and upper and total anterior face height was significantly higher in the treated boys than in the untreated height-matched control"
they gave low testosterone dosages to boys with delayed puberty and guess what faggots
after the testosterone dosage their face became more masculine aka(wider chin,longer chin,bigger forehead, larger jaw)
-cyp19a1 gene infcluences jaw growth(genetic)

tl:dr Taking testosterone at puberty will probably result in a more sexual dimorphic face

adult: Now if ur over 18 taking testosterone is worthless for facial masculinization.
in the first study they found no correlation between high prenatal T faces(masculine face) and adult testosterone levels
" Pearson correlations presented in table 1 revealed no statistically significant relationship between testosterone correlations in these samples and facial gender scores "
another proof of this is this study
" Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been proposed as a sexually dimorphic signal in humans that develops under the influence of pubertal testosterone (T); however, no studies have examined the association between fWHR and T during the phase in which facial growth is canalized—adolescence. "
in puberty fhwr is associated with high levels of testosterone but not in adults
=TAKING TESTOSTERONE FOR FACIAL MASCULINIZATION IN ADULTHOOD = WORTHLESS



what i mean by facial dimorphism,more masculine face?
-wider longer chin, higher fhwr, wider nose:
View attachment 525450

basically this


bonus: Mike Mew jew busted its all about puberty, genetics

"A quantitative trait locus that influences male pubertal sagittal jaw growth might exist in the CYP19A1 gene, "

Association between CYP19A1 genotype and pubertal sagittal jaw growth

Sagittal jaw growth is influenced during puberty by a ratio of androgens and estrogens. The CYP19A1 (formerly CYP19) gene encodes the cytochrome P450 enzyme aromatase (estrogen synthetase), which converts testosterone to estrogen. Genetic variations including ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

the studies i used:

Prenatal testosterone exposure is related to sexually dimorphic facial morphology in adulthood

Prenatal testosterone may have a powerful masculinizing effect on postnatal physical characteristics. However, no study has directly tested this hypothesis. Here, we report a 20-year follow-up study that measured testosterone concentrations from the umbilical ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Effect of low-dose testosterone treatment on craniofacial growth in boys with delayed puberty - PubMed

<p>Craniofacial growth was investigated in boys treated with low-dose testosterone for delayed puberty (> 14 years old; testicular volume < 4 ml; n = 7) and compared with controls (12-14 years; n = 37). Cephalometric radiographs, statural height and pubertal stage were recorded at the start of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Testosterone-mediated sex differences in the face shape during adolescence: Subjective impressions and objective features

Sex identification of a face is essential for social cognition. Still, perceptual cues indicating the sex of a face, and mechanisms underlying their d…

www.sciencedirect.com

Facial Width-To-Height Ratio (fWHR) Is Not Associated with Adolescent Testosterone Levels

Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been proposed as a sexually dimorphic signal in humans that develops under the influence of pubertal testosterone (T); however, no studies have examined the association between fWHR and T during the phase in which ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

last words: many users here dont understand that Masculine Faces doesnt always mean that its very good looking
you need feminine features aswell
take these studies how you will
feel free to discuss below

This is nothing new. Another dimension you must consider is there are approximately 250 SNPs (genetic variants) associated with genetically higher testosterone levels/androgen metabolism. Some of those same SNPs have been found to also directly control measures of perceived facial masculinity by exerting direct influence on facial bone growth remodelling during development

 

[goat2x]

This is nothing new. Another dimension you must consider is there are approximately 250 SNPs (genetic variants) associated with genetically higher testosterone levels. Some of those same SNPs have been found to also directly control measures of perceived facial masculinity by exerting direct influence on facial bone growth remodelling during development

Yeah its not new for us but some users still beleive it,
Interesting i will definetly look into that.
Thanks

 

[goat2x]

This is nothing new. Another dimension you must consider is there are approximately 250 SNPs (genetic variants) associated with genetically higher testosterone levels/androgen metabolism. Some of those same SNPs have been found to also directly control measures of perceived facial masculinity by exerting direct influence on facial bone growth remodelling during development

its indeed over for environment/mewing copers

 

[hairyballscel]

Anyone that want to increase T, use Delta Sleep inducing peptide, it increases T without suppresion.
High iq post btw

 

[Deleted member 4332]

exposing your son to to much testosterone trough prenatal year can lead to autism

Lifefuel for me, or am I just coping?

I am (professionally diagnosed) autistic.

 

[goat2x]

Lifefuel for me, or am I just coping?

I am (professionally diagnosed) autistic.

might be
there are more "ways" to develop autism

 

[g00lian]

Study you cited on pubertal T also mentioned midface elongation.

"After 1 year, the growth rate of the statural height, total mandibular length, ramus length, and upper and total anterior face height was significantly higher in the treated boys than in the untreated height-matched control"

See figure 8.

Long anterior face height isn't always good though, it's a signifyer of downward growth. Forward growth = tall ramus, medium-length lower anterior face height.

 

[goat2x]

Study you cited on pubertal T also mentioned midface elongation.

"After 1 year, the growth rate of the statural height, total mandibular length, ramus length, and upper and total anterior face height was significantly higher in the treated boys than in the untreated height-matched control"

View attachment 529345

See figure 8.

View attachment 529346
Long anterior face height isn't always good though, it's a signifyer of downward growth. Forward growth = tall ramus, medium-length lower anterior face height.

I know but but there are more good effects
qoute
from my thread
"last words: many users here dont understand that Masculine Faces doesnt always mean that its very good looking
you need feminine features aswell "

 

[goat2x]

Study you cited on pubertal T also mentioned midface elongation.

"After 1 year, the growth rate of the statural height, total mandibular length, ramus length, and upper and total anterior face height was significantly higher in the treated boys than in the untreated height-matched control"

View attachment 529345

See figure 8.

View attachment 529346
Long anterior face height isn't always good though, it's a signifyer of downward growth. Forward growth = tall ramus, medium-length lower anterior face height.

And anterior face hieght isnt just midface elongation its chin lenghtening aswell

 

[Bewusst]

Another Germanfag?

 

[g00lian]

And anterior face hieght isnt just midface elongation its chin lenghtening aswell

Never said that it only meant midface. But the part I underlined said upper anterior face height, which is midface. Only brought it up because it was surprising to me that increased pubertal T elongated the midface. It stood out to me a lot more than the other observations. I did still talk about total anterior face height in my comment.

 

[goat2x]

Never said that it only meant midface. But the part I underlined said upper anterior face height, which is midface. Only brought it up because it was surprising to me that increased pubertal T elongated the midface. It stood out to me a lot more than the other observations. I did still talk about total anterior face height in my comment.

i mean if we count the fhwr study
than its good that your face will not be just wider
you would look like a pancake faced fag

 

[Deleted member 5456]

so you are saying

inject t

Inject t with peptides or hope you got delayed puberty.

 

[Deleted member 502]

im gonna split this thread in to 3 stages​

-prenatal(most important)
-puberty
-adult hood

Prenatal Testosterone:This stage is the most important out of the 3 stages this effects your facial dimorphism the most qoutes from the study :

" While testosterone surges and associated growth spurts during puberty exaggerate existing sex differences in face structure, it has been postulated that the pre-existing sexual dimorphism in face structure is related to differences in prenatal testosterone exposure"
" This study provides the first direct evidence of a link between prenatal testosterone exposure and human facial structure. "
exposing your son to to much testosterone trough prenatal year can lead to autism
so my advice is to
-pray that your son wont be a low t fag
-tell ur gf to dont do autistic shit
-have good genes

-Puberty testosterone(12-18): many users fall into this category so maybe that will help some users, Serum T levels and masculine face were correlated in puberty:
"Identification accuracy correlated highly with specific MRI-derived facial features (e.g. broader forehead, chin, jaw, and nose). Facial features that most reliably cued male identity were associated with plasma levels of testosterone "
another proof of it is this study:
"At the beginning of the study, statural height, mandibular ramus length, upper anterior face height, and total cranial base length were significantly shorter in the delayed puberty boys than in the controls. After 1 year, the growth rate of the statural height, total mandibular length, ramus length, and upper and total anterior face height was significantly higher in the treated boys than in the untreated height-matched control"
they gave low testosterone dosages to boys with delayed puberty and guess what faggots
after the testosterone dosage their face became more masculine aka(wider chin,longer chin,bigger forehead, larger jaw)
-cyp19a1 gene infcluences jaw growth(genetic)

tl:dr Taking testosterone at puberty will probably result in a more sexual dimorphic face

adult: Now if ur over 18 taking testosterone is worthless for facial masculinization.
in the first study they found no correlation between high prenatal T faces(masculine face) and adult testosterone levels
" Pearson correlations presented in table 1 revealed no statistically significant relationship between testosterone correlations in these samples and facial gender scores "
another proof of this is this study
" Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been proposed as a sexually dimorphic signal in humans that develops under the influence of pubertal testosterone (T); however, no studies have examined the association between fWHR and T during the phase in which facial growth is canalized—adolescence. "
in puberty fhwr is associated with high levels of testosterone but not in adults
=TAKING TESTOSTERONE FOR FACIAL MASCULINIZATION IN ADULTHOOD = WORTHLESS



what i mean by facial dimorphism,more masculine face?
-wider longer chin, higher fhwr, wider nose:
View attachment 525450

basically this


bonus: Mike Mew jew busted its all about puberty, genetics

"A quantitative trait locus that influences male pubertal sagittal jaw growth might exist in the CYP19A1 gene, "

Association between CYP19A1 genotype and pubertal sagittal jaw growth

Sagittal jaw growth is influenced during puberty by a ratio of androgens and estrogens. The CYP19A1 (formerly CYP19) gene encodes the cytochrome P450 enzyme aromatase (estrogen synthetase), which converts testosterone to estrogen. Genetic variations including ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

the studies i used:

Prenatal testosterone exposure is related to sexually dimorphic facial morphology in adulthood

Prenatal testosterone may have a powerful masculinizing effect on postnatal physical characteristics. However, no study has directly tested this hypothesis. Here, we report a 20-year follow-up study that measured testosterone concentrations from the umbilical ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Effect of low-dose testosterone treatment on craniofacial growth in boys with delayed puberty - PubMed

<p>Craniofacial growth was investigated in boys treated with low-dose testosterone for delayed puberty (> 14 years old; testicular volume < 4 ml; n = 7) and compared with controls (12-14 years; n = 37). Cephalometric radiographs, statural height and pubertal stage were recorded at the start of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Testosterone-mediated sex differences in the face shape during adolescence: Subjective impressions and objective features

Sex identification of a face is essential for social cognition. Still, perceptual cues indicating the sex of a face, and mechanisms underlying their d…

www.sciencedirect.com

Facial Width-To-Height Ratio (fWHR) Is Not Associated with Adolescent Testosterone Levels

Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been proposed as a sexually dimorphic signal in humans that develops under the influence of pubertal testosterone (T); however, no studies have examined the association between fWHR and T during the phase in which ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

last words: many users here dont understand that Masculine Faces doesnt always mean that its very good looking
you need feminine features aswell
take these studies how you will
feel free to discuss below

Good thread. Shame about the faggy sig gif tho/

 

[weallburninhell]

im gonna split this thread in to 3 stages​

-prenatal(most important)
-puberty
-adult hood

Prenatal Testosterone:This stage is the most important out of the 3 stages this effects your facial dimorphism the most qoutes from the study :

" While testosterone surges and associated growth spurts during puberty exaggerate existing sex differences in face structure, it has been postulated that the pre-existing sexual dimorphism in face structure is related to differences in prenatal testosterone exposure"
" This study provides the first direct evidence of a link between prenatal testosterone exposure and human facial structure. "
exposing your son to to much testosterone trough prenatal year can lead to autism
so my advice is to
-pray that your son wont be a low t fag
-tell ur gf to dont do autistic shit
-have good genes

-Puberty testosterone(12-18): many users fall into this category so maybe that will help some users, Serum T levels and masculine face were correlated in puberty:
"Identification accuracy correlated highly with specific MRI-derived facial features (e.g. broader forehead, chin, jaw, and nose). Facial features that most reliably cued male identity were associated with plasma levels of testosterone "
another proof of it is this study:
"At the beginning of the study, statural height, mandibular ramus length, upper anterior face height, and total cranial base length were significantly shorter in the delayed puberty boys than in the controls. After 1 year, the growth rate of the statural height, total mandibular length, ramus length, and upper and total anterior face height was significantly higher in the treated boys than in the untreated height-matched control"
they gave low testosterone dosages to boys with delayed puberty and guess what faggots
after the testosterone dosage their face became more masculine aka(wider chin,longer chin,bigger forehead, larger jaw)
-cyp19a1 gene infcluences jaw growth(genetic)

tl:dr Taking testosterone at puberty will probably result in a more sexual dimorphic face

adult: Now if ur over 18 taking testosterone is worthless for facial masculinization.
in the first study they found no correlation between high prenatal T faces(masculine face) and adult testosterone levels
" Pearson correlations presented in table 1 revealed no statistically significant relationship between testosterone correlations in these samples and facial gender scores "
another proof of this is this study
" Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been proposed as a sexually dimorphic signal in humans that develops under the influence of pubertal testosterone (T); however, no studies have examined the association between fWHR and T during the phase in which facial growth is canalized—adolescence. "
in puberty fhwr is associated with high levels of testosterone but not in adults
=TAKING TESTOSTERONE FOR FACIAL MASCULINIZATION IN ADULTHOOD = WORTHLESS



what i mean by facial dimorphism,more masculine face?
-wider longer chin, higher fhwr, wider nose:
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basically this


bonus: Mike Mew jew busted its all about puberty, genetics

"A quantitative trait locus that influences male pubertal sagittal jaw growth might exist in the CYP19A1 gene, "

Association between CYP19A1 genotype and pubertal sagittal jaw growth

Sagittal jaw growth is influenced during puberty by a ratio of androgens and estrogens. The CYP19A1 (formerly CYP19) gene encodes the cytochrome P450 enzyme aromatase (estrogen synthetase), which converts testosterone to estrogen. Genetic variations including ...

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the studies i used:

Prenatal testosterone exposure is related to sexually dimorphic facial morphology in adulthood

Prenatal testosterone may have a powerful masculinizing effect on postnatal physical characteristics. However, no study has directly tested this hypothesis. Here, we report a 20-year follow-up study that measured testosterone concentrations from the umbilical ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Effect of low-dose testosterone treatment on craniofacial growth in boys with delayed puberty - PubMed

<p>Craniofacial growth was investigated in boys treated with low-dose testosterone for delayed puberty (> 14 years old; testicular volume < 4 ml; n = 7) and compared with controls (12-14 years; n = 37). Cephalometric radiographs, statural height and pubertal stage were recorded at the start of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Testosterone-mediated sex differences in the face shape during adolescence: Subjective impressions and objective features

Sex identification of a face is essential for social cognition. Still, perceptual cues indicating the sex of a face, and mechanisms underlying their d…

www.sciencedirect.com

Facial Width-To-Height Ratio (fWHR) Is Not Associated with Adolescent Testosterone Levels

Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been proposed as a sexually dimorphic signal in humans that develops under the influence of pubertal testosterone (T); however, no studies have examined the association between fWHR and T during the phase in which ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

last words: many users here dont understand that Masculine Faces doesnt always mean that its very good looking
you need feminine features aswell
take these studies how you will
feel free to discuss below

What caused this line on forehead

 

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