irrumator praetor
Lifting so I can crack nigger and jew skulls
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*tldr use mouth stretching device with volufiline*
You heard it boyo, here we go:
-Lips are stretchable soft tissue, their shape and size are determined by your genetics, you stretch them everyday when you talk & like all soft tissue their shape & size can be stretched into a different permanent position & shape from baseline (that is, after a VERY long time - you may see quick "results" but in order for them to be permanent you have to make that mouth expander a part of your body 8 hours a day everyday for at least a full year)
-Stretching your lips, beside the lips themselves, involves other surrounding soft tissue/muscles, fat stores, etc. includes cheeks & cheek muscles, lips and lip muscles, skin, thats it
-Lip widening is achieved either through permanent change in how the lips rest in their undisturbed state, that is, without any short term stretching, and through lip fillers/surgery with Eppley
-To alter the lips to such extent, without surgery, that their resting position is such that they are actually wider, more symmetrical, etc, ie. in a certain desired position ie. permanent resting place, we must alter the way the lip muscles and surrounding muscles, as well as other soft tissue, act in accordance with the new lip position/behavior, which includes the cheeks as well
-In other words, the entirety of the facial soft tissue must adapt to the changes, as well as the lips themselves aka muscles and the fat tissue
-Fillers can achieve this, as by getting filler injections after you have stretched the lips enough will keep them in the stretched position which was before getting the actual fillers. Fillers make the lips plumper, fuller, thus basically "bloat" them into a certain size and position. Think of it as fat tissue grafts from your stomach to your lips. Basically you increased the amount your lips contain fat thus permanently changed their structure and look, as well as size and position.
-Since you're not gonna inject roids or do "lip muscle workouts" (they don't work) you're certainly not gonna depend on some magical lip muscle hypertrophy in order to fix your resting lip position. Neither will you actually achieve hypertrophy in the lips, because those muscles are different and obviously made to not hypertrophy with use as you use them basically every day.
TL;DR
With all of this basic knowledge combined, we can conclude that:
-a combination of sleep-friendly, really wide (8-12cm) mouth appliances that allow you to keep your mouth and lips closed while sleeping & allowing you to mew (so u don't get recessed from continued use) comfortable for use during sleep (8h a day) and quality enough for long term use (which means no rusty material as you will need to wash frequently) and
-Something akin to volufiline in order to stimulate fat storage in the lips (topical filler literally) all the while stretching the mouth in order to reset the position of the cheeks relative to the mouth & the mouth muscles as well as lip width and position themselves all the while stimulating the accumulation of fat into the lips themselves should actually bring permanent change to lip position thus permanent results.
One would do these 2 things at the same time continuously for 2+ years for certain permanent results & report back to us
for the sake of looksmaxing (bro)science
Personally, this is probably what im gonna do, and you can expect before & after pics in a couple months on this thread with different time stamps (after stretching only, after stretching + volufiline at 3 months, 6 and 12) now as for permanent results timestamp i probably wont have the balls to stop so I might send it in here at the 2 year point tbh. might start in a couple weeks. post thoughts and opinions
You heard it boyo, here we go:
-Lips are stretchable soft tissue, their shape and size are determined by your genetics, you stretch them everyday when you talk & like all soft tissue their shape & size can be stretched into a different permanent position & shape from baseline (that is, after a VERY long time - you may see quick "results" but in order for them to be permanent you have to make that mouth expander a part of your body 8 hours a day everyday for at least a full year)
-Stretching your lips, beside the lips themselves, involves other surrounding soft tissue/muscles, fat stores, etc. includes cheeks & cheek muscles, lips and lip muscles, skin, thats it
-Lip widening is achieved either through permanent change in how the lips rest in their undisturbed state, that is, without any short term stretching, and through lip fillers/surgery with Eppley
-To alter the lips to such extent, without surgery, that their resting position is such that they are actually wider, more symmetrical, etc, ie. in a certain desired position ie. permanent resting place, we must alter the way the lip muscles and surrounding muscles, as well as other soft tissue, act in accordance with the new lip position/behavior, which includes the cheeks as well
-In other words, the entirety of the facial soft tissue must adapt to the changes, as well as the lips themselves aka muscles and the fat tissue
-Fillers can achieve this, as by getting filler injections after you have stretched the lips enough will keep them in the stretched position which was before getting the actual fillers. Fillers make the lips plumper, fuller, thus basically "bloat" them into a certain size and position. Think of it as fat tissue grafts from your stomach to your lips. Basically you increased the amount your lips contain fat thus permanently changed their structure and look, as well as size and position.
-Since you're not gonna inject roids or do "lip muscle workouts" (they don't work) you're certainly not gonna depend on some magical lip muscle hypertrophy in order to fix your resting lip position. Neither will you actually achieve hypertrophy in the lips, because those muscles are different and obviously made to not hypertrophy with use as you use them basically every day.
TL;DR
With all of this basic knowledge combined, we can conclude that:
-a combination of sleep-friendly, really wide (8-12cm) mouth appliances that allow you to keep your mouth and lips closed while sleeping & allowing you to mew (so u don't get recessed from continued use) comfortable for use during sleep (8h a day) and quality enough for long term use (which means no rusty material as you will need to wash frequently) and
-Something akin to volufiline in order to stimulate fat storage in the lips (topical filler literally) all the while stretching the mouth in order to reset the position of the cheeks relative to the mouth & the mouth muscles as well as lip width and position themselves all the while stimulating the accumulation of fat into the lips themselves should actually bring permanent change to lip position thus permanent results.
One would do these 2 things at the same time continuously for 2+ years for certain permanent results & report back to us
for the sake of looksmaxing (bro)science Personally, this is probably what im gonna do, and you can expect before & after pics in a couple months on this thread with different time stamps (after stretching only, after stretching + volufiline at 3 months, 6 and 12) now as for permanent results timestamp i probably wont have the balls to stop so I might send it in here at the 2 year point tbh. might start in a couple weeks. post thoughts and opinions
