What’s stopped me from getting hollow cheeks

[SubhumanCurrycel]

I literally have veins 24/7 rn although it’s winter here in OCE,
I am around 12% bf and lost a decent amount of bloat from cleaning my diet big time
I am zygoless but they are starting to show more imo
I barely have hollow cheeks in some lighting what’s stopping me from having them all round?

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Either

Buccal fat

or you're not actually as low BF as you think, i have visible veins yet im 16/18% range

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Either

Buccal fat

or you're not actually as low BF as you think, i have visible veins yet im 16/18% range

Abs and serratus muscle show too
I’m 75kg Rn at 5’10
Just gonna lean bulk slowly now

 

[lifestyle21873]

No one cares about hollow cheeks tbh

 

[Effortless]

@SubhumanCurrycel Are you gonna get rhino?

 

[Deleted member 7863]

you maybe dont have wide or forward grown enough for them to look really prominent

 

[Ocelot]

I am zygoless

Either this, or masseters acting as excess tissue where they're not needed (thus reducing concavity of the cheeks) even though yours seem low-set, could contribute.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Abs and serratus muscle show too
I’m 75kg Rn at 5’10
Just gonna lean bulk slowly now

Hm.
Try using some measuring tape and use one of those sites where you can enter all those measurments to get somewhat of an idea where you are.

Or like i said buccal fat, if you measured everything and you're 12% maybe try getting a consult with someone who does it.
It's not that extremely expensive from what i saw, here in NL it'l cost me like 1700 euro for it

 

[Deleted member 6873]

No one cares about hollow cheeks tbh

I gotta disagree tbh.
It's an insane halo IRL

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

you maybe dont have wide or forward grown enough for them to look really prominent

Could be my upper maxilla is recessed

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

If youre actually at 12% and havent got hollow cheeks its time for buccal fat removal.

The buccal fat pad is very resistant to diet in most people. So the only way to get rid of it is getting buccal fat removal. The buccal fat pad can be the exact same size at 12% or even 18%. Which was my case.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Could be my upper maxilla is recessed

Is it possible to have a good upper maxilla yet still recessed under eyes?

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

@SubhumanCurrycel Are you gonna get rhino?

Yea.
Poorcel rn tho only got 1.5k in the bank after uni books and yearly gym membership ffs

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

If youre actually at 12% and havent got hollow cheeks its time for buccal fat removal.

The buccal fat pad is very resistant to diet in most people. So the only way to get rid of it is getting buccal fat removal. The buccal fat pad can be the exact same size at 12% or even 18%. Which was my case.

Fuck me I figured
Maybe I’m 14% at max but if my cheeks aren’t hollow it’s defo that

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Is it possible to have a good upper maxilla yet still recessed under eyes?

Depends on orbits and browridge possibly

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Depends on orbits and browridge possibly

my browridge is dogshit.

 

[HurtfulVanity]

I literally have veins 24/7 rn although it’s winter here in OCE,
I am around 12% bf and lost a decent amount of bloat from cleaning my diet big time
I am zygoless but they are starting to show more imo
I barely have hollow cheeks in some lighting what’s stopping me from having them all round?
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Massetter to wide for your zygos
Still look good dont need hollow cheeks really

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

No one cares about hollow cheeks tbh

Dude look at O’pry it’s an insane hailo

 

[Effortless]

Yea.
Poorcel rn tho only got 1.5k in the bank after uni books and yearly gym membership ffs

I think you only need the tip to be straight tbn

Some people go overboard with that pig snout look with rhino

Im looking at nose bridge implant to raise it a little bit and still leave me with brow bone definition

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Massetter to wide for your zygos

I stopped chewmaxxing it was even wider before but yea I’m zygoless

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

I think you only need the tip to be straight tbn

Some people go overboard with that pig snout look with rhino

I looking at nose bridge implant to raise it a little bit and still leave me with brow bone definition

If I upturn it imma look like a tranny.
Just needs to be neutral

 

[Ocelot]

my browridge is dogshit.

It's cope anyway. Low browridge and having good fat deposits around the eyes are of prime importance, while brow projection comes lower on the list. It's why many women and children have hooded eyes. I have a decent browridge which is medium-set but bad UEE in most times of day because I've 0 fat around the eyes even when I'm like 17-18% BF.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

It's cope anyway. Low browridge and having good fat deposits around the eyes are of prime importance, while brow projection comes lower on the list. It's why many women and children have hooded eyes. I have a decent browridge which is medium-set but bad UEE in most times of day because I've 0 fat around the eyes even when I'm like 17-18% BF.

Tbh browridge is only for masc imo
Chico has god tier fat support and subpar browridge still one of the best eye areas

 

[Deleted member 6873]

It's cope anyway. Low browridge and having good fat deposits around the eyes are of prime importance, while brow projection comes lower on the list. It's why many women and children have hooded eyes. I have a decent browridge which is medium-set but bad UEE in most times of day because I've 0 fat around the eyes even when I'm like 17-18% BF.

Yeah i have very little fat around my eyes. Basically none, i have had dark circles ever since i was born so i assume my upper maxilla is still alright but i just have bad fat pads.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

You should get masseter botox tbh

Massters wider than zygos are just not harmonic and look weird. Looks bad on u btw

 

[Deleted member 6873]

You should get masseter botox tbh
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Massters wider than zygos are just not harmonic and look weird. Looks bad on u btw

Mine are basically 1:1 with my zygos, is that too wide or still good

 

[Ocelot]

Yeah i have very little fat around my eyes. Basically none, i have had dark circles ever since i was born so i assume my upper maxilla is still alright but i just have bad fat pads.

Scleral show is a good way to determine if your undereyes (and maxilla since it's a part) are fine.

Tbh browridge is only for masc imo
Chico has god tier fat support and subpar browridge still one of the best eye areas

Yeah I've noticed a lot of boxers have that ogre look because of their massive log-tier browridges.
Forever jealous of Chico's unimpressive bones but amazing looks overall.

 

[Salludon]

No one cares about hollow cheeks tbh

Foids love them. I exclusively get compliments on my hollow cheeks

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Scleral show is a good way to determine if your undereyes (and maxilla since it's a part) are fine.

Yeah I've noticed a lot of boxers have that ogre look because of their massive log-tier browridges.
Forever jealous of Chico's unimpressive bones but amazing looks overall.

I have zero scleral show.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Foids love them. I exclusively get compliments on my hollow cheeks


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Chad

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Mine are basically 1:1 with my zygos, is that too wide or still good

Its ok but massters slighly narrower than zygos are the most ideal

 

[Ocelot]

I have zero scleral show.

Good otherwise subhuman tbh

 

[Ocelot]

Foids love them. I exclusively get compliments on my hollow cheeks


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Smashing Harvard chicks, mirin

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Foids love them. I exclusively get compliments on my hollow cheeks


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What did you do for hollow cheeks bhai?
What % bodyfat?

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Good otherwise subhuman tbh

lifefuel ngl.

Its ok but massters slighly narrower than zygos are the most ideal

Ah okay.
So unless you have pitt tier masseters it wouldnt be that bad for hollow cheeks if they are 1:1 with zygos or like 1mm wider

 

[Salludon]

What did you do for hollow cheeks bhai?
What % bodyfat?

Honestly idk at what percent exactly but when I start showing abs that’s when i get hollow cheeks. So maybe 10-12%

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

lifefuel ngl.

Ah okay.
So unless you have pitt tier masseters it wouldnt be that bad for hollow cheeks if they are 1:1 with zygos or like 1mm wider

Yeah but slight narrower than zygos looks better

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

You should get masseter botox tbh
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Massters wider than zygos are just not harmonic and look weird. Looks bad on u btw

I’ve already their size by completely cutting out chewing (pic is on my laptop on my phone rn) and it was bigger
Idk my jaw is kinda my only redeeming feature and my zygos are narrow asf won’t it be a looksmin?

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Yeah but slight narrower than zygos looks better

Ah thanks man!
For now i'll lean down first and probably get buccal fat removal if no hollow cheeks and if still not masseter botox!

hope your results are good brocel

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Honestly idk exactly at what percent exactly but when I start showing abs that’s when i get hollow cheeks. So maybe 10-12%

Yea my abdominal region is quite visible but I guess could be leaner.
Any chewing or mewing tips to help zygos or are they completely genetic?
My grandma has mogger zygos ffs if only I didn’t get such a boneless maxilla

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

I’ve already their size by completely cutting out chewing (pic is on my laptop on my phone rn) and it was bigger
Idk my jaw is kinda my only redeeming feature and my zygos are narrow asf won’t it be a looksmin?

On you a 1:1 ratio looks better cuz u dont have wide zygos. But masseters wider than zygos looks shit tbh. I dont think you will lose more size from them bhai. The only way to atrophy them now is botox. I also fell for the chewing meme and + I had bruxism.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Ah thanks man!
For now i'll lean down first and probably get buccal fat removal if no hollow cheeks and if still not masseter botox!

hope your results are good brocel

Thanks bro
Im getting masseter botox in less than 2 months

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

On you a 1:1 ratio looks better cuz u dont have wide zygos. But masseters wider than zygos looks shit tbh. I dont think you will lose more size from them bhai. The only way to atrophy them now is botox. I also fell for the chewing meme and + I had bruxism.
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Ngl looking like a roblox character with insanely strong jaws hand it’s perks but at the end of the day my zygos didn’t accomodate it.
If my facial structure doesn’t change any further I’ll probably get em reduced (im just turned 18 a few months back and my face is still changing)

 

[Salludon]

Yea my abdominal region is quite visible but I guess could be leaner.
Any chewing or mewing tips to help zygos or are they completely genetic?
My grandma has mogger zygos ffs if only I didn’t get such a boneless maxilla

It does help. I get jfl reacts whenever i try to give someone mewing advice but it is what it is. I never had hollow cheeks even at low bf 2 years ago. So mewing is definitely legit for that but takes a lot of time.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

It does help. I get jfl reacts whenever i try to give someone mewing advice but it is what it is. I never had hollow cheeks even at low bf 2 years ago. So mewing is definitely legit for that but takes a lot of time.

JFL as if growing a new chin wasnt enough now mewing gives people hollow cheeks?
Im guessing only if we use your guide right

 

[Madhate]

How visible are your abs? send a pic

 

[Truemaxxer]

I think its actually the lack of forward/lateral projecting zygos. Cause you seem lean enough and your jaw is definetly wide enough

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

It does help. I get jfl reacts whenever i try to give someone mewing advice but it is what it is. I never had hollow cheeks even at low bf 2 years ago. So mewing is definitely legit for that but takes a lot of time.

Both my parents had extractions one had braces and they mouthbreathe in sleep or due to allergies
Both are giga recessed and boneless ask @Sikkunt23 hes seen my family photo I by far have the best skull

My facial progress from 16-17-18 actively keeping body and tongue posture + chewing (although I stopped chewing 2 months back)
Funny enough I was at my skinniest by far st photo 16

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

How visible are your abs? send a pic

Don’t have a recent pic but I was 80kg here now I’m 75kg.
Looks like that but lower abs are visible

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

I think its actually the lack of forward/lateral projecting zygos. Cause you seem lean enough and your jaw is definetly wide enough

Yea my zygos are dogshit in overall mass and projection imo