Why is there literally no middle ground for testosterone increase

[Deleted member 50579]

<div class="bbWrapper">Its either take 20 pills a day or shut down your balls while pinning<br /> <br /> I have extremely low testosterone i need to do something but im young</div>

 

[Tallest person here]

<div class="bbWrapper">enclomiphene is a liquid and i don&#039;t think it shuts down ur balls</div>

 

[Deleted member 50579]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 44815" data-quote="Tallest person here" data-source="post: 14820430" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14820430" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14820430">Tallest person here said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> enclomiphene is a liquid and i don&#039;t think it shuts down ur balls </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I&#039;ve heard a lot of bad things about it</div>

 

[Whatashame]

<div class="bbWrapper">well im going into a different route, so i would say theres middle ground</div>

 

[Tallest person here]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14820440" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14820440" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14820440">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;ve heard a lot of bad things about it </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>i was on it for a month then i realised my test was normal so it wouldn&#039;t do much, no poor side effects<br /> <br /> everything on this site gets called cope and gets shit on after a while, even if it workstretinoin, accutane, bonesmashing. aromasin,hgh , surgery etc</div>

 

[Typhon]

<div class="bbWrapper">see an endo before you seek advice from us</div>

 

[Deleted member 50579]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22854" data-quote="Whatashame" data-source="post: 14820453" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14820453" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14820453">Whatashame said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> well im going into a different route, so i would say theres middle ground </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>wdym<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 44815" data-quote="Tallest person here" data-source="post: 14820454" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14820454" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14820454">Tallest person here said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> i was on it for a month then i realised my test was normal so it wouldn&#039;t do much, no poor side effects<br /> <br /> everything on this site gets called cope and gets shit on after a while, even if it workstretinoin, accutane, bonesmashing. aromasin,hgh , surgery etc </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>maybe i should try it tbh</div>

 

[autistic_tendencies]

<div class="bbWrapper">Cope</div>

 

[Rigged]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14820423" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14820423" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14820423">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Its either take 20 pills a day or shut down your balls while pinning<br /> <br /> I have extremely low testosterone i need to do something but im young </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Nigga didnt u ask for my stack like yesterday, the middle ground is sarms, the low grown is supplements, and the high ground is steroids, peptides fits somewhere in between sarms and supplements</div>

 

[Deleted member 50579]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 42838" data-quote="Rigged" data-source="post: 14821188" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821188" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821188">Rigged said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Nigga didnt u ask for my stack like yesterday, the middle ground is sarms, the low grown is supplements, and the high ground is steroids, peptides fits somewhere in between sarms and supplements </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>what peptides though</div>

 

[Rigged]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14821304" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821304" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821304">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> what peptides though </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>idk i dont know much about peptides ill probably research it and make a post about it cause i have nothing better to do but not today, dont take steroids or sarms until 21 i personally think 18+ but this forum recommends 21+ and some recommend 24+ for no stunt height, just stay natty until 18 at minimum then take sarms, at 21 take steroids imo, use a supplement stack for test for now and get blood work, i sent u a decent stack, dyor on it and then make ur own stack or just use the one i sent u</div>

 

[TheRagingBull]

<div class="bbWrapper">If supplements aren&#039;t working unless it&#039;s super low I&#039;d just make the best if it by lifting. You&#039;ll still look great.</div>

 

[ErbCel]

<div class="bbWrapper">You need to get your vitamin D and K2 in. 90% of people are deficient. Not being deficient severely increases your T<br /> Other than that sprinting daily increases your T a lot. Also lifting weights help</div>

 

[Deleted member 50579]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 13983" data-quote="ErbCel" data-source="post: 14821648" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821648" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821648">ErbCel said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You need to get your vitamin D and K2 in. 90% of people are deficient. Not being deficient severely increases your T<br /> Other than that sprinting daily increases your T a lot. Also lifting weights help </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What about aromasin, it increases dht and decreases sestrogen</div>

 

[ErbCel]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14821658" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821658" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821658">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> What about aromasin, it increases dht and decreases sestrogen </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>It has risks but yeah it does. You should try the less risky methods I gave out first<br /> How do you know you are low T?</div>

 

[Deleted member 50579]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 13983" data-quote="ErbCel" data-source="post: 14821812" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821812" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821812">ErbCel said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It has risks but yeah it does. You should try the less risky methods I gave out first<br /> How do you know you are low T? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Low energy, bad muscle mass, bad frame/dick, no morning wood, others have a lower voice than me<br /> (im done with puberty)</div>

 

[Rigged]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14821658" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821658" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821658">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> What about aromasin, it increases dht and decreases sestrogen </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>nigga js stay natty every time i see u ur js tryna find a reason to do gear or taking something, u probably dont even have low t and just have placebo jfl</div>

 

[Rigged]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14821938" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821938" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821938">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Low energy, bad muscle mass, bad frame/dick, no morning wood, others have a lower voice than me<br /> (im done with puberty) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Low energy is common, bad muscle mass is genetic same as frame, i dont get hard in the morning and i have hight t, lower voice nigga r u trolling</div>

 

[Deleted member 50579]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 42838" data-quote="Rigged" data-source="post: 14821956" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821956" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821956">Rigged said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Low energy is common, bad muscle mass is genetic same as frame, i dont get hard in the morning and i have hight t, lower voice nigga r u trolling </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What? All the symptoms i said are related to low testosterone. <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 42838" data-quote="Rigged" data-source="post: 14821953" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821953" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821953">Rigged said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> nigga js stay natty every time i see u ur js tryna find a reason to do gear or taking something, u probably dont even have low t and just have placebo jfl </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Reddit.org</div>

 

[Rigged]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14821978" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821978" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821978">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> What? All the symptoms i said are related to low testosterone.<br /> <br /> Reddit.org </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>im 100x higher iq than u, ur retarded if ur gon take steroids or sarms at 16 cant even help niggas anymore on this forum jfl</div>

 

[Rigged]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14821978" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821978" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821978">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> What? All the symptoms i said are related to low testosterone.<br /> <br /> Reddit.org </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>All the symptoms u have arent only signs of low iq so many ppl told u to get bloods yet ur still asking retarded ass questions</div>

 

[Deleted member 50579]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 42838" data-quote="Rigged" data-source="post: 14822087" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14822087" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14822087">Rigged said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> im 100x higher iq than u, ur retarded if ur gon take steroids or sarms at 16 cant even help niggas anymore on this forum jfl </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Hop on reddit for me</div>

 

[Rigged]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14822146" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14822146" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14822146">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hop on reddit for me </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I dont even have it installed nigga, also i was js tryna help y u so cucked <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤦" title="Person facepalming :person_facepalming:" src="https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/twemoji/14.0.2/72x72/1f926.png" data-shortname=":person_facepalming:" /></div>

 

[ErbCel]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14821938" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821938" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821938">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Low energy, bad muscle mass, bad frame/dick, no morning wood, others have a lower voice than me<br /> (im done with puberty) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Get a blood test</div>

 

[bradpittshairline]

<div class="bbWrapper">if your dick works, u have energy who gives a fuck NIGGA</div>

 

[Deleted member 50579]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 26944" data-quote="bradpittshairline" data-source="post: 14822621" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14822621" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14822621">bradpittshairline said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> if your dick works, u have energy who gives a fuck NIGGA </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>It doesnt hto</div>

 

[bradpittshairline]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14822623" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14822623" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14822623">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It doesnt hto </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>over</div>

 

[bradpittshairline]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14822623" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14822623" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14822623">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It doesnt hto </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>i used to follow a doc on IG who saved young men from TRT by fixing their life style, takes 6 months - a year but u gotta fix ur lifestyle my nigga</div>

 

[Whatashame]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50579" data-quote="thw7" data-source="post: 14821169" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14821169" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14821169">thw7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> wdym<br /> <br /> maybe i should try it tbh </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>suicide</div>