Failed bimax by Italian surgeon

[Sheyko]

I was a little retruted and my main problem was the frontal view ,he told me that I would have solved frontally ; I trusted him ...now I can do nothing to come back but I want he lose clients and lot of money... because he is a dishonest person

 

[bysontallou]

Did Ramieri also agree to operate on you? I agree with everyone else that you didn't really need the surgery doing at all.

Also, did pagnoni tell you before the surgery that you would need braces before and/or after the surgery? I'm a little confused how you've ended up with a bad bite.

 

[Sheyko]

Ues he did ...no he didn’t,don’t know honestly if my bite is good or not what I know is that I can’t chewing well and i have a three finger mouth opening...i m waiting to have a visit with a professional surgeon who I trust because he rejected me as patient...I ll
Go
To him with a tac to check if my bite and other functional things are ok ...if like this I Only have to deal With aesthetic things but if I have functional problems too I ll do something ..,

 

[Sheyko]

Ah another thing I didn’t say is that I have gengival smile now ...he did a disaster , he is a butcher

 

[Sheyko]

I want to warn everyone : pagnoni is paying someone who speaks well about him on the forums ...pay attention

 

[Sheyko]

And is offering free consultation ..looser

 

[Deleted member 4430]

I want to warn everyone : pagnoni is paying someone who speaks well about him on the forums ...pay attention

@MD_Hopeful69

 

[Sheyko]

This guys should be canovaccio and rich guy

 

[randomvanish]

I want to warn everyone : pagnoni is paying someone who speaks well about him on the forums ...pay attention

seems reasonable.
pagnoni suddenly appeared in this forum, no one knew him before.

 

[khvirgin]

Did Ramieri also agree to operate on you? I agree with everyone else that you didn't really need the surgery doing at all.

Also, did pagnoni tell you before the surgery that you would need braces before and/or after the surgery? I'm a little confused how you've ended up with a bad bite.

Ramieri didn't struck me as a yes man, I don't think he had a second consultation with anyone

 

[Sheyko]

Ramieri didn't struck me as a yes man, I don't think he had a second consultation with anyone

Bla bla

 

[Sheyko]

Butcher Mother fucker

 

[fernandobrocolli]

I want help all the guys that are in my own situation ...I’m warning u : stay away from him

It's hard to stay away from someone without knowing who it is

 

[Sheyko]

It's hard to stay away from someone without knowing who it is

I told lot of times: is MARIO PAGNONI

 

[Deleted member 795]

I wanted to do something to my eyes area with him, but damn, you spit real shit on him. BTW, as you can see, the problem was on you, you did not need any jaw surgery, more than never bimax lol

I'll go to ramieri then, did he work on eyes area

 

[Incelking]

Seeing all these pre photos, I have the impression that the only surgery You needed was hair transplant

 

[BUY$DRUGS]

Seeing all these pre photos, I have the impression that the only surgery You needed was hair transplant

pm me the pics

 

[Incelking]

pm me the pics

Send me

 

[Sheyko]

I wanted to do something to my eyes area with him, but damn, you spit real shit on him. BTW, as you can see, the problem was on you, you did not need any jaw surgery, more than never bimax lol

I'll go to ramieri then, did he work on eyes area

I think ramieri is better ...

 

[Sheyko]

I needed it to get the muzzle out more, that’s it ...and to do this a ccw had to be done ...that s it now I ll have another bimax with ramieri .

 

[Deleted member 795]

I think ramieri is better ...

Does ramieri even work on suborbital?

 

[Sheyko]

Does ramieri even work on suborbital?

I don’t know u should ask him

 

[Sheyko]

 

[Sheyko]

Very weird philtrum ,with no support ..

 

[uranio]

Hai dovuto portare l’apparecchio prima o dopo l’intervento? Com’era la tua occlusione dentale?

 

[Deleted member 10042]

Hai dovuto portare l’apparecchio prima o dopo l’intervento? Com’era la tua occlusione dentale?

Si senor

 

[Sheyko]

Hai dovuto portare l’apparecchio prima o dopo l’intervento? Com’era la tua occlusione dentale?

L apparecchio già lo portavo e la mia occlusione era perfetta...

 

[Sheyko]

L apparecchio già lo portavo e la mia occlusione era perfetta...

Era...

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

View attachment 1038083 Butcher Mother fucker

Ma bro che cazzo non mi sembra per niente una mandibola fatta male. Come sei messo adesso? Posta foto di come sei oggi

 

[lasthope]

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Is this after your bimax? Was your philtrum weird even before surgery?

 

[Chadakin]

any updates bro

 

[lilhorizontal32]

how are people around you reacting to it? has anyone commented on your facial changes?

 

[SixCRY]

This is what happend when u don't learn about Jaw surgery before getting surgery

Philtrum fullness is cause by too much maxilary advancement with no CCW, or worst than that u got CW

Arnett said to fix this problem u just do CCW and less advancement of the maxilla

Also to get a philtrum that full i don't think u started as recessed, cuz if you really was recessed u will not get that philtrum

Never trust surgeon plan if the plan is not based on logic

I got offered linear advancement while my upper lip is slightly protruding, i refused cuz it's an awful surgery plan

 

[SixCRY]

And u know what's worst?!

No surgeon does maxillary pushback, it's very rare and even if you do, lot of surgery don't like redo's

 

[SixCRY]

Btw wtf dude, why u get bimax when u have a jawline like that?!!!

You know what he did? as i see chin change HE DID FUCKING CW that means ur chin was rotated backward

How is DJS gonna define ur gonial?

You got DJS when u don't need DJS

 

[Deleted member 5786]

@subhuman incel this is what awaits you... Your bimax will ruin you

 

[Truemaxxer]

Btw wtf dude, why u get bimax when u have a jawline like that?!!!

You know what he did? as i see chin change HE DID FUCKING CW that means ur chin was rotated backward

How is DJS gonna define ur gonial?

You got DJS when u don't need DJS

wait didnt he said that he got ccw?

Are u sure he got cw?

 

[SixCRY]

wait didnt he said that he got ccw?

Are u sure he got cw?

he said he have gummy smile after surgery so yes to get gummy smile he has an anterior downgraft = CW

 

[Rich giù]

This guys should be canovaccio and rich guy

Sorry to reply almost a year later.

We can talk publicly for all the other users to read, and I need to practice English.

Sheyko I just saw the pics, and to me you were better looking before. I'm sorry to say so but it's true.


I am not a fan of Mario Pagnoni though.
I am oldcel and he adjusted something on my face just to look decent in public, that's all(I did a year and a half ago surgery with Pagnoni, a sort of mini chin wing/genio, malar implants and endoscopic browlift). My chin and lower lip are still a bit numb and very tight.
I am happy with the aesthetic results, though they are useless for me. Pagnoni himself told me I needed Lefort 3 but he wouldn't try it for purely cosmetic reasons. I'm over 30 and it is not worth a try.

Overall, I have nothing to say about pagnoni, but I agree with you that, in your specific case, he shpuld have offered at least free revision.
I'm sorry
Maybe we could talk on tg about you botched surgery

 

[user47283]

Hello everyone, I did a bimaxillary about 6 months ago by a surgeon in Rome about which you can not find a lot of info on the internet, indeed there is no ... well it was a complete failure I was slightly retruded and I still am , maybe it also created some more problems ..

I will answer questions for those who want to have more info.

dm me, i'm one of the most knowledge users on bimax and promise we can work towards a solution. My insta is patrickhatrickrick

 

[Patient A]

dude pls stop posting single photos.
post before/after side by side of:
-side profile
-3/4 view
-front

then we can juge how much you looksminned

Threads a mess like his surgery results jfl. This is what happens when low iq naive assoomers part time lurkers get surgery and don’t get lucky

 

[Patient A]

View attachment 1004354 Don’t go to mario pagnoni he ruined my face and my life

You should have just bought a hair system if you couldn’t be bothered to understand surgery and interview multiple surgeons.

stupid bald cuck.

bet he’s still rotting with that exposed balding head and crying about his surgery

jUsT gEt biMaX BrO

@thecel lol this is what happens to stupid normies who come on this forum and read the forums’ retards advice (whom make up the majority of those who are actively vocal on here) ( e.g. @MakinItHappenReturn ) Jfl

 

[randomvanish]

assoomers

wtf is that

 

[PrisonBreakFan08]

do you have a mental disability ? Genuinely wondering

 

[Deleted member 8869]

do you have a mental disability ? Genuinely wondering

ayo is this thread legit or nah

 

[Oberyn]

bump wtf is this thread

 

[valhalar]

bump wtf is this thread

Pagnoni: my work here is done, that will be 15k euro please

Jesus Christ.

 

[Deleted member 17920]

 

[normie_joe]

I was thinking about doing infras with pagnoni like misc, but this is the first time I heard of him botching damn.

 

[APJ]

View attachment 1038083 Butcher Mother fucker

Is this the after? If it is, doesn't look bad at all. I wouldn't say 'botched', more 'not a massive improvement from before', but to be real with you that's the case with most bimaxes.

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Left = before? If so then yes I think some advancement was needed. Eyeballing it, ccw rotation may have been a good shout and not made your philtrum protrude as much, as well as not give you a gengival smile