Got called fakecel by my new therapists.

[MoggerGaston]

On 3 separate occasions they told me that I must get a lot of attention from girls and were questioning me about my relationships, how I experience intimacy, etc.
I told them I get no attention from girls and they didn't believe it.

Then we got onto my lifestyle and how I go to parties every weekend, and then they asked me how I experience socializing there when people, especially girls, approach me there.
I told them I don't get approached. They didn't believe it.


I don't know why it's so hard to understand that you can look not-ugly, but still get 0 interest from people, especially girls, whatsoever.
These therapists were older (40yo or so) so they probably don't understand how bad hypergamy has gotten.

I should've kept my dating apps installed, and showed them how I get no matches and don't stand a chance.

I may do that on the next session.

Overall the session was quite good tbh, will be going there weekly now.

 

[Luffymaxxing]

They still think we live in the 70s or some shit

If you're sub HTN you will struggle, that should be common knowledge

 

[MoggerGaston]

They still think we live in the 70s or some shit

If you're sub HTN you will struggle, that should be common knowledge

society will wake up at some point

as long as enough incels stop pretending to do well with women and start venting about their inceldom to everyone IRL

 

[Egyptianmogger]

For whatever reason incels think that if you aren't a 3 feet tall Bangladeshi janitor your a fakecel, crazy shit man.

 

[Chinacurry]

On 3 separate occasions they told me that I must get a lot of attention from girls and were questioning me about my relationships, how I experience intimacy, etc.
I told them I get no attention from girls and they didn't believe it.

Then we got onto my lifestyle and how I go to parties every weekend, and then they asked me how I experience socializing there when people, especially girls, approach me there.
I told them I don't get approached. They didn't believe it.


I don't know why it's so hard to understand that you can look not-ugly, but still get 0 interest from people, especially girls, whatsoever.
These therapists were older (40yo or so) so they probably don't understand how bad hypergamy has gotten.

I should've kept my dating apps installed, and showed them how I get no matches and don't stand a chance.

I may do that on the next session.

Overall the session was quite good tbh, will be going there weekly now.

I've had similar shit from therapists too, and 2 of those had pictures of their husband's on their desk and they were all LTN and looked oofy doofy af

 

[Psychophilly]

they probably don't understand how bad hypergamy has gotten

this.
woman above 35 is clueless

 

[Sprinkles]

are your therapists male or female?

meme either way

 

[Angutoid]

I may do that on the next session.

Youre going to see them again?
In what aspect can those bluepilled boomers help u?

 

[MoggerGaston]

are your therapists male or female?

meme either way

females in their 40s

 

[Sprinkles]

females in their 40s

if they think you are some slayer it’s cause u appeal to roasties

 

[MoggerGaston]

Youre going to see them again?
In what aspect can those bluepilled boomers help u?

life isn't all about women. about blackpill/bluepill. It isn't even the biggest part of what life is about.

I have severe trauma from being abused as a child by my parents.
This has left extreme holes in my self-esteem and self-image which is what we talked about most of the session.

What this has resulted in is that I can not properly experience and express emotions. I am walled off on the inside, and I am seeking help to slowly start opening up again, feeling again; sadness, joy, warmth, anticipation, and more of such emotions which I completely lack in my life now.

 

[MoggerGaston]

if they think you are some slayer it’s cause u appeal to roasties

people my own age also think I am a slayer. But they express it less I think, less often and less direct.

Older women speak more openly without being afraid to get judged.

 

[MoggerGaston]

@AlexAP maybe try to get an intake with a more specialized mental healthcare facility in germany which also looks at complex underlying mental issues.

 

[Deleted member 27066]

Welcome to my ignore list, have fun with the rest of narcy retarded monkeys

 

[MoggerGaston]

Welcome to my ignore list, have fun with the rest of narcy retarded monkeys

Welcome to my ignore list

 

[Gargantuan]

The therapist I went to last year was giga based, when we were discussing drug usage he straight up told me he used to do speed, coke and LSD when he was younger and also encouraged me to keep using drugs as long as they made me feel good jfl

 

[MoggerGaston]

The therapist I went to last year was giga based, when we were discussing drug usage he straight up told me he used to do speed, coke and LSD when he was younger and also encouraged me to keep using drugs as long as they made me feel good jfl

They didn't encourage my drug-use, but they didn't discourage it either. They were just like: 'oke that's fine'.
Just asking me questions what I get out of it, why I do it, how I feel while on it, etc.

being anti-drugs = normie sheeple opinion. Even trained psychologists/psychiatrists aren't against drugs.

 

[shabby890]

can therapists prescribe you meds or do you have to visit a psychiatrist?

 

[MoggerGaston]

can therapists prescribe you meds or do you have to visit a psychiatrist?

we didnt talk about meds yet, i think usually it goes through a psychiatrist. But I know even general practioners can prescribe meds so they should be able to aswell.

 

[forevergymcelling]

 

[forevergymcelling]

Fuark imagine being so Chad you could slay your therapist

That would be unbelievably validating

 

[AlexAP]

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The client:

 

[MoggerGaston]

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JFL
They complimented me a lot during the intake.
How big I am, that I look athletic, and have a good-looking face.

They also said I am really well-spoken and articulate well in the context of socializing and being attractive to women.
So much for 'muh NT'. When even psychologists tell me I mog in terms of verbal social skills.

I told them I am too ugly and not good enough.. Then they asked me what I felt when they complimented me and I told them their standards are simply too low and don't align with my own standards of how I should look/behave. Therefore making their compliments meaningless.

brutal tbh. They didn't respond to that.

But it doesn't really matter. I need this therapy to help me resolve my childhood mental traumas that destroy my life quality and my inability to enjoy life.

I am not there to get dating advice or opinions on what I look like.

 

[Manletmachine]

These therapists were older (40yo or so) so they probably don't understand how bad hypergamy has gotten.

 

[edgemaxx]

My therapist makes me angry. she diagnosed me woth bpd, told me things aint that hard for me to be sent to mumbai ward

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

any female therapists

 

[MoggerGaston]

should I tell them about hypergamy?
we haven't really talked about dating in more detail yet ngl.

I did tell them I am an active member on an incel looksmaxxing forum where I spend 8 hours/day, but they didn't know what any of that meant.

 

[MagaPutinism]

YOU ARE a fakecel in the sense that your looks are way too good for you to be an incel,

"Hello fellow incels"
I can gurantee to you that your looks are good enough it must be something else
Post your face on r/truerateme and they would say that you are at least a 7

 

[MoggerGaston]

YOU ARE a fakecel in the sense that your looks are way too good for you to be an incel, View attachment 2769215
"Hello fellow incels"
I can gurantee to you that your looks are good enough it must be something else
Post your face on r/truerateme and they would say that you are at least a 7

My mother abused me in my childhood. I think it's a major reason why I struggle with women socially and romantically.

But it has very little to do with 'being NT or not' as per the definition of this forum.
I am extroverted, behave normal socially. I am not autistic, not introverted, not 'beta'.

I just have severe problems with getting emotionally/socially close with women due to my mother's abuse tbh.

I can feel extreme anxiety at crucial moments when I get interest from girls, when normal people would feel extreme love/bonding emotions instead. Which completely sabotages my romantic life.

 

[Allornothing]

I’m telling you it’s the facial fat. You look good but not attractive.

 

[MoggerGaston]

I’m telling you it’s the facial fat. You look good but not attractive.

These were all pics during my lowest bodyfat period, 5 years ago. Weighted around 85kg back then, with very good stats in the gym.
Most of my recent pictures I am ~93kg with worse stats in the gym, so less muscle.

I don't really think I look much better in these pics, but maybe it's worth getting to lower bodyfat again sometime idk.

It's very hard. My body wants to EAT

 

[Allornothing]

These were all pics during my lowest bodyfat period, 5 years ago. Weighted around 85kg back then, with very good stats in the gym.
Most of my recent pictures I am ~93kg with worse stats in the gym, so less muscle.

I don't really think I look much better in these pics, but maybe it's worth getting to lower bodyfat again sometime idk.

It's very hard. My body wants to EAT

Same, food is my only cope for depression so what I did was force hangouts with acquaintances. Only other thing that helped me cope. They didn’t really want to hang out with me because of my bloated face but I managed.

Surely girls treated you much better at your leanest? It’s less about how much more aesthetic it makes you look, and more about how sexually dimorphic and appealing a lean face is. Girls with lean faces are revolting for the same reason men with fat faces are.

 

[infini]

She's right.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Same, food is my only cope for depression so what I did was force hangouts with acquaintances. Only other thing that helped me cope. They didn’t really want to hang out with me because of my bloated face but I managed.

i should start doing more drugs to cope so I feel less hunger tbh. I don't really have friends of acquittances so nobody to hangout with.

Surely girls treated you much better at your leanest? It’s less about how much more aesthetic it makes you look, and more about how sexually dimorphic and appealing a lean face is. Girls with lean faces are revolting for the same reason men with fat faces are.

mhmmm, girls treated me better yeah sure, but I also had shorter hair back then. long hair is nonNT i think.

i dont know, back then I was KHHV 23yo. so im not sure if girls treated me better.

 

[Allornothing]

i should start doing more drugs to cope so I feel less hunger tbh. I don't really have friends of acquittances so nobody to hangout with.

mhmmm, girls treated me better yeah sure, but I also had shorter hair back then. long hair is nonNT i think.

i dont know, back then I was KHHV 23yo. so im not sure if girls treated me better.

Did you try OLD when you were lean? IRL could be affected by low trust etc. Online isn’t really.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Did you try OLD when you were lean? IRL could be affected by low trust etc. Online isn’t really.

yeah, results weren't great, but better than I have now.

But that also has to do with OLD becoming much harder in general. Even using the same pics i used 3 years ago, I get less than half the results, using the same age, bio,etc.

 

[dimorphism]

when I get interest from girls

Fakecel

 

[Allornothing]

yeah, results weren't great, but better than I have now.

But that also has to do with OLD becoming much harder in general. Even using the same pics i used 3 years ago, I get less than half the results, using the same age, bio,etc.

Shit things are worse than I thought. It’s truly over ngl.

 

[forevergymcelling]

These were all pics during my lowest bodyfat period, 5 years ago. Weighted around 85kg back then, with very good stats in the gym.
Most of my recent pictures I am ~93kg with worse stats in the gym, so less muscle.

I don't really think I look much better in these pics, but maybe it's worth getting to lower bodyfat again sometime idk.

It's very hard. My body wants to EAT

you have the same neck as mine, you should train it

 

[dimorphism]

These were all pics during my lowest bodyfat period, 5 years ago. Weighted around 85kg back then, with very good stats in the gym.
Most of my recent pictures I am ~93kg with worse stats in the gym, so less muscle.

I don't really think I look much better in these pics, but maybe it's worth getting to lower bodyfat again sometime idk.

It's very hard. My body wants to EAT

You don't have the best face

 

[TeenAscender]

These were all pics during my lowest bodyfat period, 5 years ago. Weighted around 85kg back then, with very good stats in the gym.
Most of my recent pictures I am ~93kg with worse stats in the gym, so less muscle.

I don't really think I look much better in these pics, but maybe it's worth getting to lower bodyfat again sometime idk.

It's very hard. My body wants to EAT

The therapists are right, you’re a strong HTN.

How tall are you?

 

[dimorphism]

Shit esr high set eyebrows exposed lids nct just off the bat

 

[albe.ORG]

society will wake up at some point

as long as enough incels stop pretending to do well with women and start venting about their inceldom to everyone IRL

shit will change when ai girlfriends become mainstream

hopefully no more simping from sub chads

that will hit society big time

 

[MoggerGaston]

The therapists are right, you’re a strong HTN.

How tall are you?

182cm barefoot
but I wear lifts whenever I go out, bumping me up to 186cm in normal shoes without a thick sole or a heel.

I personally think I am weak HTN but it should still be enough to date HTBs

 

[RichardSpencel]

life isn't all about women. about blackpill/bluepill.

Incels after one girl says “hi” once

 

[MoggerGaston]

You don't have the best face

Shit esr high set eyebrows exposed lids nct just off the bat

I dont need the best face because I have 130IQ and am extremely NT, charismatic and extroverted.

 

[latincell95]

H

These were all pics during my lowest bodyfat period, 5 years ago. Weighted around 85kg back then, with very good stats in the gym.
Most of my recent pictures I am ~93kg with worse stats in the gym, so less muscle.

I don't really think I look much better in these pics, but maybe it's worth getting to lower bodyfat again sometime idk.

It's very hard. My body wants to EAT

Are You going to get a hair transplant? I have a consultation this Thursday with a hair restoration doctor.

 

[MoggerGaston]

H

Are You going to get a hair transplant? I have a consultation this Thursday with a hair restoration doctor.

currently have curtains to hide my norwood.

i may eventually get a HT

 

[dimorphism]

I dont need the best face because I have 130IQ and am extremely NT, charismatic and extroverted.

I'm just trying to find what causes your syndrome

Also why do you squint so much

Also lacking lower third height

 

[MoggerGaston]

I'm just trying to find what causes your syndrome

Also why do you squint so much

Also lacking lower third height

squinting is my standard facial posture

idk bout lower third