The vast majority of men aren't virgins.

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People on here and other incel forums believe that only a maximum 20% of men get laid. That female hypergamy is so out of control that you have to be a rich gigachad just to get attention from the average woman nowadays.

Fortunately, Tinder isn't real life. The vast majority of men lose their virginity by the time they graduate college and less than 1% of men are virgins over the age of 40. You don't need to be Chad in order to get an average looking woman. You just need to be Chad in order to get a Stacy. I used to hang around a bunch of nerds during high school and college and even most of those dudes had girlfriends and hookups before.Their lovers generally weren't much to look at but still they got laid.

Even on incels.is, at least half of the posters there are larpers or fakecels who have had very brief relationships with women and could have escalated if they had more confidence or lower standards. A lot of posters on incel forums are also quite young; anybody still in high school that is complaining about not having sex sounds ridiculous. Being a virgin at 16 is very normal. It is only once you reach 25 where not having sex or relationships becomes very strange and a loser-ish trait. The actual number of khhv in western countries isn't very high and will never be the majority.

This isn't to say that the sexual market is perfect or doesn't have major issues. But people here are acting like having a girlfriend or a few one night stand is far more impressive and far more rare than it actually is. I know dozens of nobodies who would be called Chads on here just because they can get a date on a monthly basis.
 
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brutal the older I get the more subhuman I become
 
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Half of men die with 3 or less than lays.
 
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The way I see it like 2% of men are giga slayers. 18% can have casual sex frequently. 5% are legit incel. And the remaining 75% can maybe have casual sex once every year or so, but mostly get laid through LTRs with women at or below their looks level.

Obviously this isn’t absolute but I think it’s roughly the outlook for men in the west right now
 
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The way I see it like 2% of men are giga slayers. 18% can have casual sex frequently. 5% are legit incel. And the remaining 75% can maybe have casual sex once every year or so, but mostly get laid through LTRs with women at or below their looks level.

Obviously this isn’t absolute but I think it’s roughly the outlook for men in the west right now
You are wrong. Half of men don’t get any sex if they don’t pay for it, this has been studied and proven.
 
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Cool story bro
 
You are wrong. Half of men don’t get any sex if they don’t pay for it, this has been studied and proven.
What is “getting sex”? Because way less than 50% of men, especially 25+, are civilian virgins. I agree that around half of men probably couldn’t get casual sex in any given year. But when I said 5% of men are legit incel I’m talking about guys that are civilian virgins well into their 20s. Also 5% might sound like a small number but it really isn’t, that’s millions of men in America alone.
 
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What is “getting sex”? Because way less than 50% of men, especially 25+, are civilian virgins. I agree that around half of men probably couldn’t get casual sex in any given year. But when I said 5% of men are legit incel I’m talking about guys that are civilian virgins well into their 20s. Also 5% might sound like a small number but it really isn’t, that’s millions of men in America alone.
Well yes the number of virgins is low, but if you look at sexual behaviours over a lifetime. Half of men don’t amass more than 3 slays by the time they are into their 50s.

This indicates most are paying for it either directly or indirectly, a legit incel in most cases is just a guy with no money.
 
Well yes the number of virgins is low, but if you look at sexual behaviours over a lifetime. Half of men don’t amass more than 3 slays by the time they are into their 50s.

This indicates most are paying for it either directly or indirectly, a legit incel in most cases is just a guy with no money.
Ya fair enough although part of the reason so many guys don’t slay is 50+ year old dudes grew up in a time where it was common to marry young and were in relationships in their prime years. I maintain that if all men were out chasing pussy most guys would have 3+ slays by age 50. There’s tons of guys 50+ though that have only fucked their wife and maybe one other chick, and haven’t even banged their wife in 10 years
 
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it is over
 
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I don't care how many gross fatties you stuffed your penis into, you are still a virgin.
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People on here and other incel forums believe that only a maximum 20% of men get laid. That female hypergamy is so out of control that you have to be a rich gigachad just to get attention from the average woman nowadays.

Fortunately, Tinder isn't real life. The vast majority of men lose their virginity by the time they graduate college and less than 1% of men are virgins over the age of 40. You don't need to be Chad in order to get an average looking woman. You just need to be Chad in order to get a Stacy. I used to hang around a bunch of nerds during high school and college and even most of those dudes had girlfriends and hookups before.Their lovers generally weren't much to look at but still they got laid.

Even on incels.is, at least half of the posters there are larpers or fakecels who have had very brief relationships with women and could have escalated if they had more confidence or lower standards. A lot of posters on incel forums are also quite young; anybody still in high school that is complaining about not having sex sounds ridiculous. Being a virgin at 16 is very normal. It is only once you reach 25 where not having sex or relationships becomes very strange and a loser-ish trait. The actual number of khhv in western countries isn't very high and will never be the majority.

This isn't to say that the sexual market is perfect or doesn't have major issues. But people here are acting like having a girlfriend or a few one night stand is far more impressive and far more rare than it actually is. I know dozens of nobodies who would be called Chads on here just because they can get a date on a monthly basis.
Agreed, but most of non virgins You Say about haved sex like few times in there life with a disperate LTB or payed a sex worker. The right question is how many guys have regular, quality sex. If You pay once a mouth a sex worker or If You are in a pity relashionship with a LTB and not have good sex doesn't matter.
 
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Im the only real deal incel on this site
 
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@stevielake JBNT
 
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It is only once you reach 25 where not having sex or relationships becomes very strange and a loser-ish trait.

:lul: JFL at this cope.

If you’ve never been kissed and you’re 13+, you’re strange and loserish.
If you’ve never been in a relationship and you’re 14+, you’re strange and loserish.
If you’ve never had oral sex and you’re 15+, you’re strange and loserish.
If you’ve never had PIV sex and you’re 16+, you’re strange and loserish.

It’s already been beyond over if you’re 18 years old, kissless, and virgin.
 
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Landwhales don't count.
 
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People on here and other incel forums believe that only a maximum 20% of men get laid. That female hypergamy is so out of control that you have to be a rich gigachad just to get attention from the average woman nowadays.

Fortunately, Tinder isn't real life. The vast majority of men lose their virginity by the time they graduate college and less than 1% of men are virgins over the age of 40. You don't need to be Chad in order to get an average looking woman. You just need to be Chad in order to get a Stacy. I used to hang around a bunch of nerds during high school and college and even most of those dudes had girlfriends and hookups before.Their lovers generally weren't much to look at but still they got laid.

Even on incels.is, at least half of the posters there are larpers or fakecels who have had very brief relationships with women and could have escalated if they had more confidence or lower standards. A lot of posters on incel forums are also quite young; anybody still in high school that is complaining about not having sex sounds ridiculous. Being a virgin at 16 is very normal. It is only once you reach 25 where not having sex or relationships becomes very strange and a loser-ish trait. The actual number of khhv in western countries isn't very high and will never be the majority.

This isn't to say that the sexual market is perfect or doesn't have major issues. But people here are acting like having a girlfriend or a few one night stand is far more impressive and far more rare than it actually is. I know dozens of nobodies who would be called Chads on here just because they can get a date on a monthly basis.
Dude, it's not 2009-2012 anymore. What you're describing happened frequently before Tinder took off. Ugly chicks got laid with ugly dudes. Everybody got laid unless you were like sub 3, short, and ethnic. Average/normie tier men were able to get laid easily if they were NT. Nowadays, foids expect nothing less than a version of Tyler Maher
 
Dude, it's not 2009-2012 anymore. What you're describing happened frequently before Tinder took off. Ugly chicks got laid with ugly dudes. Everybody got laid unless you were like sub 3, short, and ethnic. Average/normie tier men were able to get laid easily if they were NT. Nowadays, foids expect nothing less than a version of Tyler Maher
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Do you really think gigachads are fooling around with low-tier Beckies? What a foid wants and what a foid gets aren't always the same.
 
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Do you really think gigachads are fooling around with low-tier Beckies? What a foid wants and what a foid gets aren't always the same.
Yes, gigachads are messing with LTBs in 2022
 
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People on here and other incel forums believe that only a maximum 20% of men get laid. That female hypergamy is so out of control that you have to be a rich gigachad just to get attention from the average woman nowadays.

Fortunately, Tinder isn't real life. The vast majority of men lose their virginity by the time they graduate college and less than 1% of men are virgins over the age of 40. You don't need to be Chad in order to get an average looking woman. You just need to be Chad in order to get a Stacy. I used to hang around a bunch of nerds during high school and college and even most of those dudes had girlfriends and hookups before.Their lovers generally weren't much to look at but still they got laid.

Even on incels.is, at least half of the posters there are larpers or fakecels who have had very brief relationships with women and could have escalated if they had more confidence or lower standards. A lot of posters on incel forums are also quite young; anybody still in high school that is complaining about not having sex sounds ridiculous. Being a virgin at 16 is very normal. It is only once you reach 25 where not having sex or relationships becomes very strange and a loser-ish trait. The actual number of khhv in western countries isn't very high and will never be the majority.

This isn't to say that the sexual market is perfect or doesn't have major issues. But people here are acting like having a girlfriend or a few one night stand is far more impressive and far more rare than it actually is. I know dozens of nobodies who would be called Chads on here just because they can get a date on a monthly basis.
Ok here's my take on that. A small but significant minority of male faces are ugly enough that they can never have sex or relationships with a woman without paying for it such as with an escort. I believe something like 15-20% of men meet this definition among younger men in the west. The problem is inceldom was actually rare among older generations before female hypergamy exploded due to internet, social media, and affordable travel. Back then it would be a minority, less than 5%, 1% is way too low and many of them probably fucked prostitutes.
 
It's 27% minimum tbh
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Men lie all the time about their sexual success so you know for a fact that it's actually higher than what the data shows. If 27% of men straight up admit to being incel, there has to be 10-20% more males who are not open about it.

I think Male incel rate is 37-47%. These are the males that have NEVER had sex.

I think about 80% of men will only ever have a maximum of 1-3 sexual partners in their entire lives at this point.
 
People on here and other incel forums believe that only a maximum 20% of men get laid. That female hypergamy is so out of control that you have to be a rich gigachad just to get attention from the average woman nowadays.

Fortunately, Tinder isn't real life. The vast majority of men lose their virginity by the time they graduate college and less than 1% of men are virgins over the age of 40. You don't need to be Chad in order to get an average looking woman. You just need to be Chad in order to get a Stacy. I used to hang around a bunch of nerds during high school and college and even most of those dudes had girlfriends and hookups before.Their lovers generally weren't much to look at but still they got laid.

Even on incels.is, at least half of the posters there are larpers or fakecels who have had very brief relationships with women and could have escalated if they had more confidence or lower standards. A lot of posters on incel forums are also quite young; anybody still in high school that is complaining about not having sex sounds ridiculous. Being a virgin at 16 is very normal. It is only once you reach 25 where not having sex or relationships becomes very strange and a loser-ish trait. The actual number of khhv in western countries isn't very high and will never be the majority.

This isn't to say that the sexual market is perfect or doesn't have major issues. But people here are acting like having a girlfriend or a few one night stand is far more impressive and far more rare than it actually is. I know dozens of nobodies who would be called Chads on here just because they can get a date on a monthly basis.
true
 
Half of men die with 3 or less than lays.
As in number of lays in total or amount of different people they had sex with?
 

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