Virtually all arguments/opinions/forms of logic can be proven wrong

[darkness97]

How do I prove mathematical axioms?

GO TO FUCKING CLASS!!!!!!

and maybe you can tell me one day

 

[Deleted member 65658]

the laws of logic refer to the three laws of thought proposed by Plato

he was wrong tho

however that doesn’t change the fact that language is what we use to understand logical statements, and logical statements formulate the arguments that define existent entities within our reality.

but the 'existent entities' dont follow a concrete pattern (which kinda defeat the whole point of these 'logical statements'), so why would i believe in such nonsense

 

[Deleted member 65658]

How do I prove mathematical axioms?

exactly

 

[Deleted member 65658]

The mass doubled, bro

the definition of two changes based on whatever axiom its acting on. if 1 + 1 = 2 then 1 water drop and another 1 water drop combining should equate to 2 waterdrops, however it doesnt (but only in cases where you define 'mass') so theres some obvious flaws in 1 + 1 = 2

 

[Meteor21]

the definition of two changes based on whatever axiom its acting on. if 1 + 1 = 2 then 1 water drop and another 1 water drop combining should equate to 2 waterdrops, however it doesnt (but only in cases where you define 'mass') so theres some obvious flaws in 1 + 1 = 2

That doesn't make sense, you're arguing because they can be combined into a larger whole that it therefore doesn't equal 2. The mass doubled, it didn't remain the same. 1 big slice of pizza is not equal to 1 small slice of pizza.

 

[Deleted member 65658]

you're arguing because they can be combined into a larger whole that it therefore doesn't equal 2.

yep

the definition of two changes based on whatever axiom its acting on

The mass doubled, it didn't remain the same.

so larger mass = 2? shouldnt 2 always equal 2

 

[Klasik01]

That doesn't make sense, you're arguing because they can be combined into a larger whole that it therefore doesn't equal 2. The mass doubled, it didn't remain the same. 1 big slice of pizza is not equal to 1 small slice of pizza.

In quantity but in quality "they are the same" lol no don't mix math and perception it always gives problems. Mass is a correct term but mass doesn't describe a pizza, mass = d/v. Quantity is the way how we measure all things, if we use weights, time... "A big slice of pizza is not the same as a small of pizza" yes the difference is the measure, but the pizza is: different or equal, we don't know. The meaning is not logical at all. 1ml of water is not the same as other 1ml of water. It's only the same if we consider water as H2O, which is how the molecules are conformed but the other 1ml might be more salty so we need another way to measure the saltyness and so on... Things are more complex.

 

[lemonnz]

how can one waterdrop be two waterdrops? doesnt make sense to me

The unknown mass of the water drop doubled when you added another water drop. The term “water drop” you’re using has undefined qualities so unless you use a new term for the sum of both water drops then you cannot call it “water drop” anymore. For example 1x + 1x ≠ 1x, instead you have to say 1x + 1x = 1y.

 

[Deleted member 65658]

The term “water drop” you’re using has undefined qualities

exactly, 1 + 1 = 2 is an undefined quality. the definition changes completely based on whatever principles youre talking about. is 1 the atoms that make up the water drop, is it the mass that is accumulated from both, what is two waterdrops if when one waterdrop combines with another its larger whereas two seperate waterdrops would be two waterdrops?

idk i cant comprehend it

 

[radicalrationalist]

this is why higher functioning humans do not see language as anything other than a tool for manipulation. objective reality cannot be discerned through language, if anything it must be discerned in its absence, in an abstract form inside the mind. this is why you musn't even bother persuading leftshits, just kill them.

 

[lemonnz]

exactly, 1 + 1 = 2 is an undefined quality. the definition changes completely based on whatever principles youre talking about. is 1 the atoms that make up the water drop, is it the mass that is accumulated from both, what is two waterdrops if when one waterdrop combines with another its larger whereas two seperate waterdrops would be two waterdrops?

idk i cant comprehend it

Because it’s a false statement so you can’t comprehend it, it can’t exist in physical form. If water drop = x, you cannot say x + x = x in the same way you cannot say 5 + 5 = 5, you’ll need a new variable. Math is the language of the universe so a mathematical error is simply impossible to envision.

 

[Deleted member 65658]

Math is the language of the universe so a mathematical error is simply impossible to envision.

seems retarded that the so called language of the universe has errors in it, kinda defeats the entire point of it

 

[Klasik01]

this is why higher functioning humans do not see language as anything other than a tool for manipulation. objective reality cannot be discerned through language, if anything it must be discerned in its absence, in an abstract form inside the mind. this is why you musn't even bother persuading leftshits, just kill them.

That's it, anyone can defend anything with words just say I identify as a woman and retards would treat you differently.

 

[Deleted member 65658]

this is why higher functioning humans do not see language as anything other than a tool for manipulation. objective reality cannot be discerned through language, if anything it must be discerned in its absence, in an abstract form inside the mind. this is why you musn't even bother persuading leftshits, just kill them.

why are higher functioning humans not in power despite their ability to discern language from objective reality, if such ability existed and could be used properly then it would result in an almost perfect correlation between higher functioning people (id assume non leftist in this case) having 'power' but evidence shows otherwise.

tldr: why are leftists not considered higher functioning humans in this scenario