Why lifts do not work (I got caught with them) [brutal story]

nice that a 5'10 girl fell in love with u. how tf did u do that lol

I wanted LL but i feel like id rather mmamaxx+gymmax. we could just become little manlet beasts. fuck having LL and then not being able to defend yourself or go to the gym and train legs
From what I've seen, most people can still run and lift weights after they've recovered from LL-surgery. There is a risk, yes, but most people seem to not be affected by it.

As for the 5'10 girl; I do not know.
We met in real life, I played games with her sometimes. We saw eachother every day. Then one day she asks me: "Hey, do you like going to the cinema?"
And I say: "Yeah, sure."
And she invited me to a date out of nowhere. Honestly, I have no idea how it happened. As I said, I never frauded my height and we met in real life from the get-go, so she always knew I was shorter, but somehow she fell in love.

The biggest problem is always that attraction to non-chads never really lasts, so it was over pretty quickly.
 
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Thats why height > face. I have seen it many times... tall normie can get laid without a problem, but the short chad struggles. Height is pure power, strength and dominance. The amount of dopamine must be insane to walk around at 195cm and tower over everyone.
Then how come there are 6'5 and 6'7 guys on this forum who are incels?
And, in comparison, how many 'short' guys here, who are facially well-above-average, are actually incels? I can't think of anyone.

Height is important but it isn't some sort of get out of jail free card like many people here make it out to be.
Height only beats face when you're below 5'9 and given the fact that OP has stated that he's below 5'7, the heightpill is obviously brutal for him.

In most scenarios, you need to be both 5'9 and 4 PSL, at the bare minimum, if you want to succeed with women.
If you're below-average facially but tall, your height isn't going to save you, 9 times out of 10.
 
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From what I've seen, most people can still run and lift weights after they've recovered from LL-surgery. There is a risk, yes, but most people seem to not be affected by it.

As for the 5'10 girl; I do not know.
We met in real life, I played games with her sometimes. We saw eachother every day. Then one day she asks me: "Hey, do you like going to the cinema?"
And I say: "Yeah, sure."
And she invited me to a date out of nowhere. Honestly, I have no idea how it happened. As I said, I never frauded my height and we met in real life from the get-go, so she always knew I was shorter, but somehow she fell in love.

The biggest problem is always that attraction to non-chads never really lasts, so it was over pretty quickly.
yeah i feel your pain bro
 
From what I've seen, most people can still run and lift weights after they've recovered from LL-surgery. There is a risk, yes, but most people seem to not be affected by it.

As for the 5'10 girl; I do not know.
We met in real life, I played games with her sometimes. We saw eachother every day. Then one day she asks me: "Hey, do you like going to the cinema?"
And I say: "Yeah, sure."
And she invited me to a date out of nowhere. Honestly, I have no idea how it happened. As I said, I never frauded my height and we met in real life from the get-go, so she always knew I was shorter, but somehow she fell in love.

The biggest problem is always that attraction to non-chads never really lasts, so it was over pretty quickly.
i have 162 cm(avg 177cm where i live) friend who is very social, giga-nt and had gfs(no larp), if he was posting there he would get told to rope
 
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i have 162 cm(avg 177cm where i live) friend who is very social, giga-nt and had gfs(no larp), if he was posting there he would get told to rope
I had Gfs before aswell.
Doesn't make it any less of a problem. Most women care about height; it is what it is.
The attraction usually doesn't really last though.

Your friend being nt and social is nice and all, but he probably has the same issue that jestermaxxers have in general: It is not real attraction. It's artificial and doesn't last.
Real attraction comes with looks and height.
 
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i have 162 cm(avg 177cm where i live) friend who is very social, giga-nt and had gfs(no larp), if he was posting there he would get told to rope
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I mean, you still fucked a hot gal, I’d consider it a massive success regardless.
 
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I had Gfs before aswell.
Doesn't make it any less of a problem. Most women care about height; it is what it is.
The attraction usually doesn't really last though.

Your friend being nt and social is nice and all, but he probably has the same issue that jestermaxxers have in general: It is not real attraction. It's artificial and doesn't last.
Real attraction comes with looks and height.
yeah but it's not like most men will experience that
 
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I had Gfs before aswell.
Doesn't make it any less of a problem. Most women care about height; it is what it is.
The attraction usually doesn't really last though.

Your friend being nt and social is nice and all, but he probably has the same issue that jestermaxxers have in general: It is not real attraction. It's artificial and doesn't last.
Real attraction comes with looks and height.t
Some old guy told me the ability to make a girl cum + ability to fight are the 2 non negotiables in attraction. Then looks + height + status add together to create an average score. so the only thing we can do is sex maxx, mma maxx(do this hard af as we're already short), then looks and status maxx
 
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Some old guy told me the ability to make a girl cum + ability to fight are the 2 non negotiables in attraction. Then looks + height + status add together to create an average score. so the only thing we can do is sex maxx, mma maxx(do this hard af as we're already short), then looks and status maxx
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i have 162 cm(avg 177cm where i live) friend who is very social, giga-nt and had gfs(no larp), if he was posting there he would get told to rope
I had Gfs before aswell.
Doesn't make it any less of a problem. Most women care about height; it is what it is.
The attraction usually doesn't really last though.

Your friend being nt and social is nice and all, but he probably has the same issue that jestermaxxers have in general: It is not real attraction. It's artificial and doesn't last.
Real attraction comes with looks and height.
yeah ive had long term gfs too but ngl 1 cheated on me loads and would say shit like 'i just wish you was taller :(' but i didnt have any other options so i just got emotionally gigaraped almost to death. and the other one was quite nice about my height, made me feel ok about it and looked at it as our problem instead of my problem. but she ended up cheating too with some mulatto slayer.

also i noticed both of them became attached to me while they were going through fucked up friend situations where they were losing their friends so they were probably just using me as someone to fall back on so they have something to do on the weekend. but were never actually happy with me.

lowkey wish i was never born
 
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yeah ive had long term gfs too but ngl 1 cheated on me loads and would say shit like 'i just wish you was taller :(' but i didnt have any other options so i just got emotionally gigaraped almost to death. and the other one was quite nice about my height, made me feel ok about it and looked at it as our problem instead of my problem. but she ended up cheating too with some mulatto slayer.

also i noticed both of them became attached to me while they were going through fucked up friend situations where they were losing their friends so they were probably just using me as someone to fall back on so they have something to do on the weekend. but were never actually happy with me.

lowkey wish i was never born
Ngl this is just sad...

The pills that have destroyed the most lives are probably hairpill, heightpill, and racepill
 
your height in that other thread
if not im sorry bro that is beyond brutal
you must be incredibly rich to have ascended at that height
how tall did it say i was in that other thread?
 
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yeah ive had long term gfs too but ngl 1 cheated on me loads and would say shit like 'i just wish you was taller :(' but i didnt have any other options so i just got emotionally gigaraped almost to death. and the other one was quite nice about my height, made me feel ok about it and looked at it as our problem instead of my problem. but she ended up cheating too with some mulatto slayer.

also i noticed both of them became attached to me while they were going through fucked up friend situations where they were losing their friends so they were probably just using me as someone to fall back on so they have something to do on the weekend. but were never actually happy with me.

lowkey wish i was never born
Why does your life mirror mine in so many ways?
I just had one girlfriend who was always very nice and cute to me. Two others cheated on me.
One was even pregnant by another guy and wanted me to stay with her anyway, JFL :lul:
 
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Bruv just save up for LL. If you are 5’5-5’6 and get 6 cm added you will be around 5’8 which is fine for about 60-70% of girls in the UK. Also if you add 5-6 cm recovery isn’t that bad, from what I’ve been told. People in LL forums have said that they were able to run just as well as they were before surgery.
 
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Idk dude it's just tough to believe. Like I said if this isn't a larp I'm not mad at all, I think you deserve a fucking medal and maybe your own TV show. Like dude


I am 5'9' and I've been called short by females even though it's literally 1 inch below average in my country.


@runescapeaddict1996 is 5'4" if I remember right and he claimed he had to ask out the entire country just to get a fat GF.
Yes. This is true.
 
Height doesn't matter for latinos :p
 
Bruv just save up for LL. If you are 5’5-5’6 and get 6 cm added you will be around 5’8 which is fine for about 60-70% of girls in the UK. Also if you add 5-6 cm recovery isn’t that bad, from what I’ve been told. People in LL forums have said that they were able to run just as well as they were before surgery.
i may actually do it ngl
 
„I fucked the shit out of her muh muh muh„

stfu fucking bragger no body gives a damn, if you slay you slay
 
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I'm a bit of a short guy tbh so I bought some 1.5 inch lifts to put in my white air force. 2 inches is way too much and you lean forward. fuck knows how Anmesia wears 4 inch lifts. and 1 inch isnt really enough to hide my manletism.

Also I can't wear slim trousers with lifts, they have to be straight fit and cover the ankle which I can do fine.

Theres been 2 times a girl has clocked im wearing lifts.

This is the story about the more brutal first time:

Bitch messaged me from instagram (thanks to my IG god method) and persued me, making all the conversation etc. we spoke for a few days then she asked to meet. But she was from a city that is a 30 minute drive from me. I couldn't be bothered to pick her up and she seemed high effort tbh.

On instagram she looked okay, not fit but bangable so I accepted to meet her. She got the train from her city to my city and I picked her up from the train station.
When she got in my car I was genuinely shocked she was low key sexy af, her instagram didnt do her justice. we had just basic convo on the way home back to my place.

keep in mind I lived in a hostle at the time (government gave me a room for free in a houseshare for a few months while I had no job+not getting along with mother). So I had my own room upstairs and crack&heroin smokers living in the other rooms.

But as we got out of the car, I clocked she was the same height as me (while I had 1.5 inch lifts on) ngl my heart sank. This means shes like 1-2 inches taller than me barefoot. And then at the door while I was putting the key, she mentioned something about me being small, in a playful way but obvs its a dealbreaker.

but we went up to my room and briefly talked about our height problem and she said something along the lines of 'lets make this a one time thing' kinda serious but also kinda testing me to see if I'd be sad but I just kept the poker face and played it cool like I wasn't extremely hurt by that statement.

I took my shoes+lifts off as I got into bed so she couldnt see me getting smaller. Then we just watched some shitty shows on my laptop in bed and cuddled and shit for an hour. She kept picking on every insecurity about me that was kinda annoying. i think she thought it was banter but she didnt really get how to have banter. also she kept wanting me to come to the toilet with her(this would mean that I have to go toilet with her both of us bare foot and she would see that shes like 1-2 inches taller than me. I eventually went with her and it was kinda awkward) then after i hit her back with some of her insecurities too. i said something about her tits being small and she said 'yeah but I can fix them. you can't fix your height' fuuuckkk brutal asf. no wonder I wanted to kms around that moment in my life.

anyways we kinda got along after I violated her back more. and then I said something like 'you would be a lot better if you just kept your mouth shut' and then as I finished the sentence I went in for the kiss, and then we kissed, and i fucked the life out of her for surpisingly quite a long time. and she kept being loud as fuck and I had to say theres other people in the house about 20 times and cover her mouth and shit. for some reason I forgot to do foreplay and just went straight in which was a bit weird but oh well. she was the kind of girl that I would want to look at her face while fucking her cos she was so hot so we did a lot of missionary and cowgirl. she had a godlike body apart from the lack of tits.

and then afterwards she seemed impressed with the performance and said something about maybe this shouldn't be just a one time thing. which made me feel quite good and validated ngl. Then we continued watching shit for another hour and cuddled and she started asking relationship questions like 'so what are we now' and 'are you going to go and speak to other girls after this'. she seemed really interested in me


and then I think I mentioned we should get food and take her home. But we fucked 1 more time and I came first and she didnt cum and she seemed kinda disappointed about that.

Then we went to mcdonalds on the way back and she bought us both a mcdonalds. Then she started saying how she doesnt think we would work because she thinks im looking for a relationship and shes in her party days (cos she was a few years younger than me, just about to be able to go clubbing). but I just didnt react because I didnt mention i wanted a relationship with her in the first place.

Then when I dropped her off I didnt message her for like a day. I waited for her to message me and she tried to make convo and I was responding well. she started asking if im speaking to anyone else and I said no and i asked her if she was and she said no. Then I tried making convo with her and she just deaded it off like I was nothing to her which kinda hurt. so I aspie freaked out on her calling her ugly and that she was just a fuck. then she said she was gonna block me when she got home cos I was so short but she felt bad so she didnt. Ngl that hurt a lot I think I cried and felt kinda suicidal about it. but yeah thats it basically, what a confusing girl. its almost like she wanted me. but also didnt want me at the same time cos im short+tried to fraud

TLDR: this girl literally said to me 'Yeah I can fix my small tits, but you cant fix your height'
how tall?
 
What a weird story, hard to understand what happened tbh
 
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What a weird story, hard to understand what happened tbh
met a girl. i frauded with lifts. she bullied me for being small. i fucked her. took her home. she basically said shes not interested.
 
OP how tall are you and how tall is she

did she see that you were shorter than her barefoot
 
id rather not say. its brutal as fuck.
Nigga stfu and tell us your height you faggot
Nigga really wrote and essay about his pathetic sex life but is too scared to reveal his height
Gay Ass nigga kys
 
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READ UNTIL THE END, WORTH IT

I'm a bit of a short guy tbh so I bought some 1.5 inch lifts to put in my white air force. 2 inches is way too much and you lean forward. fuck knows how Anmesia wears 4 inch lifts. and 1 inch isnt really enough to hide my manletism.

Also I can't wear slim trousers with lifts, they have to be straight fit and cover the ankle which I can do fine.

Theres been 2 times a girl has clocked im wearing lifts.

This is the story about the more brutal first time:

Bitch messaged me from instagram (thanks to my IG god method) and persued me, making all the conversation etc. we spoke for a few days then she asked to meet. But she was from a city that is a 30 minute drive from me. I couldn't be bothered to pick her up and she seemed high effort tbh.

On instagram she looked okay, not fit but bangable so I accepted to meet her. She got the train from her city to my city and I picked her up from the train station.
When she got in my car I was genuinely shocked she was low key sexy af, her instagram didnt do her justice. we had just basic convo on the way home back to my place.

keep in mind I lived in a hostle at the time (government gave me a room for free in a houseshare for a few months while I had no job+not getting along with mother). So I had my own room upstairs and crack&heroin smokers living in the other rooms.

But as we got out of the car, I clocked she was the same height as me (while I had 1.5 inch lifts on) ngl my heart sank. This means shes like 1-2 inches taller than me barefoot. And then at the door while I was putting the key, she mentioned something about me being small, in a playful way but obvs its a dealbreaker.

but we went up to my room and briefly talked about our height problem and she said something along the lines of 'lets make this a one time thing' kinda serious but also kinda testing me to see if I'd be sad but I just kept the poker face and played it cool like I wasn't extremely hurt by that statement.

I took my shoes+lifts off as I got into bed so she couldnt see me getting smaller. Then we just watched some shitty shows on my laptop in bed and cuddled and shit for an hour. She kept picking on every insecurity about me that was kinda annoying. i think she thought it was banter but she didnt really get how to have banter. also she kept wanting me to come to the toilet with her(this would mean that I have to go toilet with her both of us bare foot and she would see that shes like 1-2 inches taller than me. I eventually went with her and it was kinda awkward) then after i hit her back with some of her insecurities too. i said something about her tits being small and she said 'yeah but I can fix them. you can't fix your height' fuuuckkk brutal asf. no wonder I wanted to kms around that moment in my life.

anyways we kinda got along after I violated her back more. and then I said something like 'you would be a lot better if you just kept your mouth shut' and then as I finished the sentence I went in for the kiss, and then we kissed, and i fucked the life out of her for surpisingly quite a long time. and she kept being loud as fuck and I had to say theres other people in the house about 20 times and cover her mouth and shit. for some reason I forgot to do foreplay and just went straight in which was a bit weird but oh well. she was the kind of girl that I would want to look at her face while fucking her cos she was so hot so we did a lot of missionary and cowgirl. she had a godlike body apart from the lack of tits.

and then afterwards she seemed impressed with the performance and said something about maybe this shouldn't be just a one time thing. which made me feel quite good and validated ngl. Then we continued watching shit for another hour and cuddled and she started asking relationship questions like 'so what are we now' and 'are you going to go and speak to other girls after this'. she seemed really interested in me


and then I think I mentioned we should get food and take her home. But we fucked 1 more time and I came first and she didnt cum and she seemed kinda disappointed about that.

Then we went to mcdonalds on the way back and she bought us both a mcdonalds. Then she started saying how she doesnt think we would work because she thinks im looking for a relationship and shes in her party days (cos she was a few years younger than me, just about to be able to go clubbing). but I just didnt react because I didnt mention i wanted a relationship with her in the first place.

Then when I dropped her off I didnt message her for like a day. I waited for her to message me and she tried to make convo and I was responding well. she started asking if im speaking to anyone else and I said no and i asked her if she was and she said no. Then I tried making convo with her and she just deaded it off like I was nothing to her which kinda hurt. so I aspie freaked out on her calling her ugly and that she was just a fuck. then she said she was gonna block me when she got home cos I was so short but she felt bad so she didnt. Ngl that hurt a lot I think I cried and felt kinda suicidal about it. but yeah thats it basically, what a confusing girl. its almost like she wanted me. but also didnt want me at the same time cos im short+tried to fraud

TLDR: this girl literally said to me 'Yeah I can fix my small tits, but you cant fix your height'
Sadly, I read that. Ugh. Yeah. She nailed you with a blackpill. Dominating you like a little bitch. She wanted to be the man. And if you continue with her, she will introduce the black strap-on dildo. Making sure you understand your place.
 
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met a girl. i frauded with lifts. she bullied me for being small. i fucked her. took her home. she basically said shes not interested.
Yeah I got that but she seemed like a very unpredictable person, at some moments it looked as if She wanted to keep fucking u but then at the end she just blocked u
 
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Brutal
 
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Yeah I got that but she seemed like a very unpredictable person, at some moments it looked as if She wanted to keep fucking u but then at the end she just blocked u
think its the combination of my manletism + when i aspie freaked out. i shouldve held frame ngl
 
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Damn that’s brutal, I’m 5’10 and I feel like I get height mogged constantly.

I did have a friend (he’s in prison rn) that was 5’5 that slayed though. I’d rather be short with your 15 lays than a virgin.
 
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Damn that’s brutal, I’m 5’10 and I feel like I get height mogged constantly.

I did have a friend (he’s in prison rn) that was 5’5 that slayed though. I’d rather be short with your 15 lays than a virgin.
'hes in prison' yeah manlets have to become an extreme stereotype or really good looking just to be given a chance with girls ngl.

and maybe. but at least you could fix an ugly virgins face. cant really fix my height apart from LL. but then you cant train. ive just got to keep maxxing everything out just so I can eventually have a normal life tbh its depressing
 
what does she gain from putting me down for no reason and why would she want to be the man
So she'll be in charge. Do you know what that means? She wants you to look up to her. Literally, too. Ugh. That way, she can do whatever the fuck she wants. Fuck whoever she wants. And not have to deal with masculinity and a guy telling her to shut the fuck up when she's whining about other vaginas - what to wear that day, she wants you to worship her too. Which I have no problem with that when she's a queen. Princess. But less than 0.04 percent of the world's considered such. And women know this. But still, they all want to be what they envy and can never be.
 
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So she'll be in charge. Do you know what that means? She wants you to look up to her. Literally, too. Ugh. That way, she can do whatever the fuck she wants. Fuck whoever she wants. And not have to deal with masculinity and a guy telling her to shut the fuck up when she's whining about other vaginas - what to wear that day, she wants you to worship her too. Which I have no problem with that when she's a queen. Princess. But less than 0.04 percent of the world's considered such. And women know this. But still, they all want to be what they envy and can never be.
yeah ngl ive had other girls literally try to persuade me into 'worshipping the ground they walk on' it genuinely creeps me out. i dont get why they dont want to just be submissive or at least an equal partnership. Do you think its their weird though process. or do you think this could be cos im not being masculine enough?
 
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yeah ngl ive had other girls literally try to persuade me into 'worshipping the ground they walk on' it genuinely creeps me out. i dont get why they dont want to just be submissive or at least an equal partnership. Do you think its their weird though process. or do you think this could be cos im not being masculine enough?
muscle-up. but still, if you lack the pleasant face and ability of a charming conversation, ugh, perhaps you should settle with dominant bitches.
 
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Nigga5ft6 and acts like he 5ft man the fuck up nigga
 
Bitch messaged me from instagram (thanks to my IG god method) and persued me, making all the conversation etc.
elaborate.

I'm UK too. (also short and ugly) I want hot girls to message me and try to bang me :)
 
cos she was a few years younger than me, just about to be able to go clubbing
Bro ur in UK so shes 17, how old are you nibba? :lul::lul::lul:
 

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