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Orb bigonial width is narrow
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Agreed, top tier threadThis isn't talked about enough here imo. Bigonial width is the distance between the two gonions (the edges of the mandible where it meets the ramus). It determines how wide the lower jaw looks from the front. If your bigonial width is a lot lower than your interzygomatic width (distance between the cheekbones), your lower jaw will look too narrow. Short ramus and tall chin can compensate for a low bgw to an extent, so can big masseter muscles.
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Low bigonial width examples:
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High/decent bgw examples:
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High/decent bgw makes the jaw look more masculine, square and harmonious from the front (given decent ramus length, gonial angle and fWHR). Low bgw can make the face look top-heavy, especially if the chin is short, and unphotogenic from the front.
I'd say that bigonial width is more important than ramus length and gonial angle because it determines lower jaw width and can make or break a front profile. Who cares if your maxilla is forward-grown and your ramus long if your lower jaw looks subhuman from the front due to low bgw in relation to the interzygomatic width? In fact, a long ramus makes someone with low bgw look worse and the mandible appear even smaller/narrower due to inward-tilt of the ramus. The more vertical the ramus, the better, because it ensures decent bgw. A noticeably inward-tilted ramus is a sign of low bgw in relation to interzygomatic width.
Unfortunately, the only way to increase bgw (or give the appearance of higher bgw) is jaw implants. Growing a beard and making the masseters bigger can help to an extent but won't make the face look ideal from the front. Fillers can be used too but are quite expensive long-term and won't last long.
Look at the post date of this thread. It's two fucking years oldI had a thread on this already
Oh my bad lolLook at the post date of this thread. It's two fucking years old
Id say 0.90 bigonial:bizygomatic ratioCouldn't find anything on this. Maybe someone can analyze attractive men's faces and come up with an ideal "interzygomatic/bigonial width ratio" or sth like that. Bgw close to izw would be ideal imo and ramus as vertical as possible.
how did you measure that ? I'm guessing you took lips in consideration too ?my chin height, which is 78mm
Eyes are mega frauded in morph. Nt tho
Reeeeeee I neeed more bigonial width
Is this measured with the masséters or just bone?This isn't talked about enough here imo. Bigonial width is the distance between the two gonions (the edges of the mandible where it meets the ramus). It determines how wide the lower jaw looks from the front. If your bigonial width is a lot lower than your interzygomatic width (distance between the cheekbones), your lower jaw will look too narrow. Short ramus and tall chin can compensate for a low bgw to an extent, so can big masseter muscles.
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Low bigonial width examples:
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High/decent bgw examples:
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High/decent bgw makes the jaw look more masculine, square and harmonious from the front (given decent ramus length, gonial angle and fWHR). Low bgw can make the face look top-heavy, especially if the chin is short, and unphotogenic from the front.
I'd say that bigonial width is more important than ramus length and gonial angle because it determines lower jaw width and can make or break a front profile. Who cares if your maxilla is forward-grown and your ramus long if your lower jaw looks subhuman from the front due to low bgw in relation to the interzygomatic width? In fact, a long ramus makes someone with low bgw look worse and the mandible appear even smaller/narrower due to inward-tilt of the ramus. The more vertical the ramus, the better, because it ensures decent bgw. A noticeably inward-tilted ramus is a sign of low bgw in relation to interzygomatic width.
Unfortunately, the only way to increase bgw (or give the appearance of higher bgw) is jaw implants. Growing a beard and making the masseters bigger can help to an extent but won't make the face look ideal from the front. Fillers can be used too but are quite expensive long-term and won't last long.
Looks like shitAgree 100%. Bigonial as wide as zygos looks masc and robust af.
Bone. Gonions are part of the mandible, which is a boneIs this measured with the masséters or just bone?
I’ve seen some articles stating that the standard for bigonial width is to measure it with soft tissue included.Bone. Gonions are part of the mandible, which is a bone