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I am nearly convinced
TLDR: MSE 3-4K €, Invisalign 3-4k €
Was searching for Doctors in my proximity to do MSE with, since I can not travel to Andrei due to Corona.
Found Dr. Christoph Moschik in Munich, worked with Won Moon and does his original MSE.
Fucked sleep cycle and sleep deprivation (my whole life), only slept 4 hours and stood up pretty late. Washed my hair, didnt eat anything and jumped into the train, I barely catched, with wet hair.
Funnily enough, I forgot that they might do photos of me for documentation.
But does it matter? I am a Subhuman so it doesnt. Thats why I am here for, for MSE.
I hoped to get either 1cm possible expansion or facemask. Deep down I knew that it will be 5 mm anyways (understandably).
Anyways, arrived in munich central-trainstation got mogged aswell as heightmogged by most non-ethnic young men - suifuel.
Drove to the office of Moschik with subway, atleast heightmogged majority of people.
Went to the alleged place by foot and at first didnt find the place, but found it above Debeka and TUI.
Went in there and was greeted friendly, had to sign some documents. 2 other boys were there who looked like high-class brats. I then got scared that maybe MSE will cost a fortune with him. It is a modern praxis, especially compared to the average german ortho.
They are 3 dentists but I think only 2 of them are also orthos.
Got taken into the room of Moschik, was regarded very friendly and we instantly came to the point.
I gave him my Xrays and 3D CT(!bring this to first appointment, then he can plan and tell you alot more).
He analyzed my bite and I liked that he actually spoke out the analysis and commented it.
I asked him if I can get facemask, he denied it because it would do more harm (in regards to my bite), he said that my plane and bite aligns well, class 1 maloclussion. He said it could be possible with IMDO or BSSO, but said it would be too much effort because I might gain only 2 mm (I will discuss this with him on tuesday)
@Copemaxxing He said you might rather have a facemask than me, but he still doubts it. He explained why but I forgot.
Debated about getting "as much expansion as possible". He said that 1 cm is only in rare cases. More would be possible with MSDO but he would rather not. SFOT might be an option but with very good dental hygiene only
He said my best case will be 6mm
He is very kind and not on a high a horse like most other doctors.
Then had to complete some scans and photos.
The assistant made them, 5ft4 thicc latina (@Gudru )
She scanned my palates with iTero
Funnily enough, my palate was too narrow to get it on the scqn as a whole. We joked about getting MSE before, so we can do the scan.
Than we made some irl photos.
When she made the photos, I always saw the photos in my eye corner appearing on the computer
The camera was overly precise and captured my poor health and recession, especially my hair and e eborws. I dont even need to talk about my jaws.
Instantly killed my self-pride which I accumulated over the last few weeks. New round lethargy is starting.
Briefly talked about the money also. 3-4k€ for MSE, I was relieved to say the least. But nearly 4k for Invisalign. Wont use it anyway.
Also, 300€ preperation cost. I think the consult was for free
Best thing is, you can get funding.
You can pay the 3-4k monthly within 3 years, which might be like 120 € per month (?)
Time: he said fast expansion might be 3-4 weeks fast expansion(depends on suture split), and 9-12 months braces (which I already have)
Will have an online consult on tuesday.
I wrote this without structure, sitting in the train home.
TLDR: MSE 3-4K €, Invisalign 3-4k €
Was searching for Doctors in my proximity to do MSE with, since I can not travel to Andrei due to Corona.
Found Dr. Christoph Moschik in Munich, worked with Won Moon and does his original MSE.
Fucked sleep cycle and sleep deprivation (my whole life), only slept 4 hours and stood up pretty late. Washed my hair, didnt eat anything and jumped into the train, I barely catched, with wet hair.
Funnily enough, I forgot that they might do photos of me for documentation.
But does it matter? I am a Subhuman so it doesnt. Thats why I am here for, for MSE.
I hoped to get either 1cm possible expansion or facemask. Deep down I knew that it will be 5 mm anyways (understandably).
Anyways, arrived in munich central-trainstation got mogged aswell as heightmogged by most non-ethnic young men - suifuel.
Drove to the office of Moschik with subway, atleast heightmogged majority of people.
Went to the alleged place by foot and at first didnt find the place, but found it above Debeka and TUI.
Went in there and was greeted friendly, had to sign some documents. 2 other boys were there who looked like high-class brats. I then got scared that maybe MSE will cost a fortune with him. It is a modern praxis, especially compared to the average german ortho.
They are 3 dentists but I think only 2 of them are also orthos.
Got taken into the room of Moschik, was regarded very friendly and we instantly came to the point.
I gave him my Xrays and 3D CT(!bring this to first appointment, then he can plan and tell you alot more).
He analyzed my bite and I liked that he actually spoke out the analysis and commented it.
I asked him if I can get facemask, he denied it because it would do more harm (in regards to my bite), he said that my plane and bite aligns well, class 1 maloclussion. He said it could be possible with IMDO or BSSO, but said it would be too much effort because I might gain only 2 mm (I will discuss this with him on tuesday)
@Copemaxxing He said you might rather have a facemask than me, but he still doubts it. He explained why but I forgot.
Debated about getting "as much expansion as possible". He said that 1 cm is only in rare cases. More would be possible with MSDO but he would rather not. SFOT might be an option but with very good dental hygiene only
He said my best case will be 6mm
He is very kind and not on a high a horse like most other doctors.
Then had to complete some scans and photos.
The assistant made them, 5ft4 thicc latina (@Gudru )
She scanned my palates with iTero
Funnily enough, my palate was too narrow to get it on the scqn as a whole. We joked about getting MSE before, so we can do the scan.
Than we made some irl photos.
When she made the photos, I always saw the photos in my eye corner appearing on the computer
The camera was overly precise and captured my poor health and recession, especially my hair and e eborws. I dont even need to talk about my jaws.
Instantly killed my self-pride which I accumulated over the last few weeks. New round lethargy is starting.
Briefly talked about the money also. 3-4k€ for MSE, I was relieved to say the least. But nearly 4k for Invisalign. Wont use it anyway.
Also, 300€ preperation cost. I think the consult was for free
Best thing is, you can get funding.
You can pay the 3-4k monthly within 3 years, which might be like 120 € per month (?)
Time: he said fast expansion might be 3-4 weeks fast expansion(depends on suture split), and 9-12 months braces (which I already have)
Will have an online consult on tuesday.
I wrote this without structure, sitting in the train home.
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