So how in the holy hell do you just build "muh social circle" IRL in 2023?

[Deleted member 20704]

Many here talk of how a social circle is "crucial" for sub-Chad guys, and even still beneficial for Chad hermits obviously vs. being a lonesome loser. Yeah, sure, but no one really can put their finger on how a loner "builds one" they just vaguely touch on the subject.

However, virtually NOBODY on here explains how you go from zero social circle anymore post college/high school to being successfully "socialcirclemaxxxed." Like, it's how fucking millionaires tell you to "just grind" to get out wageslavery as if that worked for most.

The ASSUMPTION here that "socialcirclemaxxed" means you are also "NT" or at least NT enough to supposedly reap the so-called benefits of said maxxing. Like if being NT/socialable "helped" then why was I able to have success without it? Proves it's not "required."

But how do you do it? Like, what does a loner with no money/social venues/connections do to build and be successful in a social circle, thus then reaping these benefits of sex, girlfriends, slays, good company/dopamine, etc. But how? HOW?! I've never had a proper social circle in my entire life, so is this all cope? I think so, if the benefits only come from Chad exposure it's then an avenue for Chad more than for normies.

I've been with girls/had girlfriends temporarily but NEVER had a real social circle. In high school I had a few friends, that's it ... Never was really "cool" or "fit in." Yet all of the guys I know who had social circles weren't getting any if they didn't have sex appeal to begin with.

I never went to college officially because poorcel ... No money. So if all of these "just be social" posts really means "have a lot of money to do shit" then it's not helpful for poorcels, or maybe an incel who lives in rural areas where money won't matter (there is not a strong need of it to "socialmaxx"). So if the bottom line is you NEED MORE SEX APPEAL, then why cope with muh circle if sex appeal > NT/friends?

So once again, for sub-Chads, is a social circle really even all that useful? I'm on the fence because some soys get girls doing it but given I have had girlfriends with NO SOCIAL CIRCLE I am not convinced it's a "requirement" to get the most out of your looks if you don't really have optimal looks 100%. Like if it's all a buncha Chads or Chadlites talking of "social maxxing" that's bullshit, it's looks > social then ideally.

And yeah, muh "everything matters" muh muh BS I know, but IRL is there any big halo to merely have a meh social circle vs. not? I mean, even if it was possible how much would it benefit a normal looking guy with absolutely zero remarkable features or qualities, for example? Can't imagine him ascending much. So it's mostly just an avenue for Chadlite minimum to play numbers game more than anything.

So it's kinda BS many here say you "need" socialmaxxing but the ones who benefit from it most are fucking GigaChads who could get 100+ lays in his basement through Tinder and make FWBs/connections that way. Meanwhile I feel I'd be putting in more work for very marginal benefits I'd otherwise get anyways. Like yeah I want friends but if friends don't get you pussy, are you really reaching your goals 100% then?

So explain FAGGOTS how muh social circle works, how you build one over 30+ (for free) and how you fit in/succeed this way, or you're all full of shit/copes. I know I am a social retard who could use a social circle, but what grinds my gear is how it's dishonest in hw this works. You NEED the sex appeal first. YOU NEED THE LOOKS FIRST. At best a social circle keeps a sub-Chadlite/looks requirement guy from maybe roping and not being depressed, but I have drugs for that anyways. I want proof that socialmaxxing ascends low sex appeal niggas.

Cuz if it ain't ascending you and making you get sex easier and feeling validated, what is the real benefit there? Where is the contentment? It'd be like a buncha incels, or you'd be the loser in a group of sex-having dudes. I don't wanna be the 5th wheel of people, I wanna be the fucking DOM who shows up & wins, not some autist who'd otherwise benefit little because sex appeal is where he caps at, not merely lack of a social grouping. So either show proof that low sex appeal dudes benefit with girls rather than just be incels with friends.

 

[Deleted member 26678]

not possible to make friends past the age of 18

 

[Deleted member 20704]

not possible to make friends past the age of 18

I mean I can agree it's POSSIBLE to try and find some social setting to enter at any point in life, but what's the real goal there?

Like if you're a lonely, sub 5 dude for example, what really are you gonna do to solve that by having friends? It won't make you sexy so it's cope. Social circle works for guys with sex appeal, right looks/logistics because they meet the standards, all beneath are struggling friends or not.

I just don't get why niggas here wanna pretend it's something so much more convoluted than that, because looks are the real ceiling here.

Yeah it'd do marginal at worst for most guys since they aren't ugly, but otherwise it's not like merely having a social life makes your SMV skyrocket. So I don't get it, even fucking Chads on here and shit think it's so beneficial for any dude but it's really not if you're low sex appeal.

 

[Deleted member 20370]

socialising is only fun when youre drinking alcohol

 

[Deleted member 16970]

NT is a cope people use.

The reality is, girl who do not want to suck ur dick want to use you for attention.
Guys who do not have basically your same beliefs and lifestyle are not gonna be fun to be around.

its all about getting what is fitting for you. (why do u think faggots, furries, lgtb, lezbians all form tribes around their niche?)

you too are a niche.

 

[Deleted member 20704]

socialising is only fun when youre drinking alcohol

Of course because it lowers your inhib/IQ and it feels like it's something more special than it really is, or more rewarding than it truly is.

In reality you sober up and realize you're a sub-Chad dude coping cuz you barely -- if ever -- score pussy or genuine sexual attraction & respect. Many guys cope with drugs and shit because life is too bleak, I know it first hand. Socializing should be like feeling drunk whole sober ideally.

When you drink it makes life feel better, it's like LSD but very different and weak, kind of alters perceptions & makes life SEEM maybe better.

But truly if something only feels good when on drugs it's because it sucks for you probably when sober, that means it's either looks or mittaz.

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

Yup, since 2020 the - so called - socialife is basically in the internet, so you have to be successful in that place to get some illusion of social circle, however this is not the quality of social circle IRL.

Also, if you lack of context, like school/uni/collage/sociable work there is no way to build a social cirlce IRL. Therefore in general people are loosing friends when coming from early 20s to 30s and so on. Most people on their 30s have 1 or 2 closer friends and that's all. That's the simple dynamics of social life.

If you are still young, that young so you can go to uni or collage, then it is your pretty much last chance for getting some friends or a lifetime partner of high quality. Those friends would be also pretty much temporal more or less but could help you meet your love partner.

After uni it is very hard to socialmaxx. Maybe in big and fancy corporations where gen z is starting working you could meet some open people to hang out, but it's hard to materialize IRL if you don't have formal education, job experience, expertise and general knowledge how to get a white collar job in big corpo world.

 

[Deleted member 20704]

Yup, since 2020 the - so called - socialife is basically in the internet, so you have to be successful in that place to get some illusion of social circle, however this is not the quality of social circle IRL.

Also, if you lack of context, like school/uni/collage/sociable work there is no way to build a social cirlce IRL. Therefore in general people are loosing friends when coming from early 20s to 30s and so on. Most people on their 30s have 1 or 2 closer friends and that's all. That's the simple dynamics of social life.

If you are still young, that young so you can go to uni or collage, then it is your pretty much last chance for getting some friends or a lifetime partner of high quality. Those friends would be also pretty much temporal more or less but could help you meet your love partner.

After uni it is very hard to socialmaxx. Maybe in big and fancy corporations where gen z is starting working you could meet some open people to hang out, but it's hard to materialize IRL if you don't have formal education, job experience, expertise and general knowledge how to get a white collar job in big corpo world.

IOW:

Either have tremendous looks and/or tremendous skills, abilities, means or connections, or you're a social ghost if sub-Maher & 30+.

If you're poor, no connections/socials & sub-Maher your chance of making any real social progress/sexual progress in life are borderline 0.

This is why more and more dudes are roping I think -- there's no way out of this hellhole unless you're lucky or something just happens.

 

[Solar]

After moving places I currently have a gap year

and its literally impossible to find friends

Hope things change once school/college starts

 

[Xangsane]

Many here talk of how a social circle is "crucial" for sub-Chad guys, and even still beneficial for Chad hermits obviously vs. being a lonesome loser. Yeah, sure, but no one really can put their finger on how a loner "builds one" they just vaguely touch on the subject.

However, virtually NOBODY on here explains how you go from zero social circle anymore post college/high school to being successfully "socialcirclemaxxxed." Like, it's how fucking millionaires tell you to "just grind" to get out wageslavery as if that worked for most.

The ASSUMPTION here that "socialcirclemaxxed" means you are also "NT" or at least NT enough to supposedly reap the so-called benefits of said maxxing. Like if being NT/socialable "helped" then why was I able to have success without it? Proves it's not "required."

But how do you do it? Like, what does a loner with no money/social venues/connections do to build and be successful in a social circle, thus then reaping these benefits of sex, girlfriends, slays, good company/dopamine, etc. But how? HOW?! I've never had a proper social circle in my entire life, so is this all cope? I think so, if the benefits only come from Chad exposure it's then an avenue for Chad more than for normies.

I've been with girls/had girlfriends temporarily but NEVER had a real social circle. In high school I had a few friends, that's it ... Never was really "cool" or "fit in." Yet all of the guys I know who had social circles weren't getting any if they didn't have sex appeal to begin with.

I never went to college officially because poorcel ... No money. So if all of these "just be social" posts really means "have a lot of money to do shit" then it's not helpful for poorcels, or maybe an incel who lives in rural areas where money won't matter (there is not a strong need of it to "socialmaxx"). So if the bottom line is you NEED MORE SEX APPEAL, then why cope with muh circle if sex appeal > NT/friends?

So once again, for sub-Chads, is a social circle really even all that useful? I'm on the fence because some soys get girls doing it but given I have had girlfriends with NO SOCIAL CIRCLE I am not convinced it's a "requirement" to get the most out of your looks if you don't really have optimal looks 100%. Like if it's all a buncha Chads or Chadlites talking of "social maxxing" that's bullshit, it's looks > social then ideally.

And yeah, muh "everything matters" muh muh BS I know, but IRL is there any big halo to merely have a meh social circle vs. not? I mean, even if it was possible how much would it benefit a normal looking guy with absolutely zero remarkable features or qualities, for example? Can't imagine him ascending much. So it's mostly just an avenue for Chadlite minimum to play numbers game more than anything.

So it's kinda BS many here say you "need" socialmaxxing but the ones who benefit from it most are fucking GigaChads who could get 100+ lays in his basement through Tinder and make FWBs/connections that way. Meanwhile I feel I'd be putting in more work for very marginal benefits I'd otherwise get anyways. Like yeah I want friends but if friends don't get you pussy, are you really reaching your goals 100% then?

So explain FAGGOTS how muh social circle works, how you build one over 30+ (for free) and how you fit in/succeed this way, or you're all full of shit/copes. I know I am a social retard who could use a social circle, but what grinds my gear is how it's dishonest in hw this works. You NEED the sex appeal first. YOU NEED THE LOOKS FIRST. At best a social circle keeps a sub-Chadlite/looks requirement guy from maybe roping and not being depressed, but I have drugs for that anyways. I want proof that socialmaxxing ascends low sex appeal niggas.

Cuz if it ain't ascending you and making you get sex easier and feeling validated, what is the real benefit there? Where is the contentment? It'd be like a buncha incels, or you'd be the loser in a group of sex-having dudes. I don't wanna be the 5th wheel of people, I wanna be the fucking DOM who shows up & wins, not some autist who'd otherwise benefit little because sex appeal is where he caps at, not merely lack of a social grouping. So either show proof that low sex appeal dudes benefit with girls rather than just be incels with friends.

Bullshit. Rated around 5.5 PSL on here, and have only 2-3 good friends.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Who want's to be friend's with Chad ? Just to watch him get girl's on their knee's begging to suck his cock while you watch like a cuck ? Maybe He will tell the girl to give you some head too but she will deny in a instance after seeing your normie face...

 

[Deleted member 26678]

I mean I can agree it's POSSIBLE to try and find some social setting to enter at any point in life, but what's the real goal there?

Like if you're a lonely, sub 5 dude for example, what really are you gonna do to solve that by having friends? It won't make you sexy so it's cope. Social circle works for guys with sex appeal, right looks/logistics because they meet the standards, all beneath are struggling friends or not.

wrong, there are loads of bad looking guys who get with girls because they are nt

I just don't get why niggas here wanna pretend it's something so much more convoluted than that, because looks are the real ceiling here.

because the users here who go outside notice that most guys do not even look good but they still have sex and social lives because they are nt

Yeah it'd do marginal at worst for most guys since they aren't ugly, but otherwise it's not like merely having a social life makes your SMV skyrocket. So I don't get it, even fucking Chads on here and shit think it's so beneficial for any dude but it's really not if you're low sex appeal.

if you walk around any downtown or college campus at night you will see ltns with decent looking girls everywhere because they are nt

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

IOW:

Either have tremendous looks and/or tremendous skills, abilities, means or connections, or you're a social ghost if sub-Maher & 30+.

No, you don't need to be even a HTN to have a good socialcircle IRL. MTN & no asperger or autism and you are good to go.
Me myself as a subhuman or LTN had quite good social circle IRL back in early 20s on my uni.

(i havent realised back in then that I am a subhuman)

 

[Deleted member 20704]

wrong, there are loads of bad looking guys who get with girls because they are nt

because the users here who go outside notice that most guys do not even look good but they still have sex and social lives because they are nt

if you walk around any downtown or college campus at night you will see ltns with decent looking girls everywhere because they are nt

Ok, but are the girls actually sexually attracted to them? Are they ever having kids with these guys? Do they want a family? Do they look at this guy/feel magnetically drawn to him? Does he trigger her or give her some sensation, raw appeal, any strong emotions or high sense of value?

I mean you can have a bunch of robot gfs and shit, but if the real bottom line is it's not about sex appeal then it's not real attraction, or it's bargained or not as many here seem. When you use "Chad" as an example it's a guy with sex appeal, normie being NT isn't the same thin.

@Arborist made an excellent point many times here, lots of young college-aged girls are on birth control so are they sexually attracted? Do girls on birth control actually SELECT a guy based on the same, natural factors they'd go by if they were naturally cycling & pregnable?

I mean you can have a "boyfriend" as a girl and he can be a handbag, beta or meal ticket or just akin to a sexless dude as in dead bedroom. So yeah I see guys I mog IRL with girls, I'm not denying this, but what I am concerned with is if this is real, genuine attraction or a ruse.

If being NT will help me ascend when not being NT didn't, that brings up the whole topic then if sex appeal even matters in this regard.

I don't wanna be with a girl unless she's actually attracted to me, and NT only goes so far when it comes to sexual attraction, u can't bargain it.

 

[rand anon]

You don't

 

[Deleted member 20704]

Like yeah I get low or no sex appeal normies can have "girlfriends" but is that actually legit/optimal? Like are their girls on birth control? They can't get pregnant so are they picking these dudes to be with simply because they're not optimal for making 'em pregnant/passing genes?

Are they with guys they would be with if otherwise? Cuz I'm not gonna change fuck all to follow suit, I'm too set in my ways to dance with rules and play all these new angles. All I know is if women want you they let you know, whether you got a social circle circle.

I get it, I get it I'm a socia loser but the "benefits" of attempting to climb the social ladder don't outweigh the efforts & disappointment.

I'd like to think a woman who wants to fuck me or be with me is off birth control, every woman I've been with has been off of it so that's why i ask. Maybe I can't get any more girls because they're all on the birth control jewpills? IDK what to think anymore, all I know is IT'S OVER.

 

[Xangsane]

Bullshit. Rated around 5.5 PSL on here, and have only 2-3 good friends.

@Keengo Why the hmm?

 

[Deleted member 20704]

@Keengo Why the hmm?

Because you say you have 2 or 3 friends only as if that's a BAD thing when it' isn't at all, I got pretty much no friends in 2023 lol

 

[Xangsane]

Because you say you have 2 or 3 friends only as if that's a BAD thing when it' isn't at all, I got pretty much no friends in 2023 lol

I see people my age with 10-50+ friends, but I like having only very very few friends.

 

[Deleted member 20704]

I see people my age with 10-50+ friends, but I like having only very very few friends.

Yeah but I'd be content with a few friends, the appeal I wanted of socialmaxxing is only to be treated better & pull more, but that's a cope if you're not Chad. All guys I've know who pull alot could get some whether 100% NT or not, just can't be a turbo-sperg obv but still....

 

[lelouch]

use phenibut (if you have social anxiety) and go to activities regularly boom

 

[thereallegend]

it's actually pretty easy

no point in doing anything if you're broke and ugly tho

 

[Deleted member 20704]

it's actually pretty easy

no point in doing anything if you're broke and ugly tho

OK so what is your advice? It is "easy" but you explained nothing lol

I am broke and not ugly but still almost no opportunities in my area.

School is out of the question, I've tried my college town and I can't fit in there, too out of the loop.

I tried social events but everyone who goes either focuses on their phone and tunes everyone out or goes with someone and closes off contact with all else usually. So you can't ever "break in" you are stuck in limbo, you aren't allowed "in" anywhere really with a shot in the dark.

No old connections anymore, all bridges burned there (not my fault they cut me off btw) and nowhere else to start fresh from.

 

[Agendum]

Many here talk of how a social circle is "crucial" for sub-Chad guys, and even still beneficial for Chad hermits obviously vs. being a lonesome loser. Yeah, sure, but no one really can put their finger on how a loner "builds one" they just vaguely touch on the subject.

However, virtually NOBODY on here explains how you go from zero social circle anymore post college/high school to being successfully "socialcirclemaxxxed." Like, it's how fucking millionaires tell you to "just grind" to get out wageslavery as if that worked for most.

The ASSUMPTION here that "socialcirclemaxxed" means you are also "NT" or at least NT enough to supposedly reap the so-called benefits of said maxxing. Like if being NT/socialable "helped" then why was I able to have success without it? Proves it's not "required."

But how do you do it? Like, what does a loner with no money/social venues/connections do to build and be successful in a social circle, thus then reaping these benefits of sex, girlfriends, slays, good company/dopamine, etc. But how? HOW?! I've never had a proper social circle in my entire life, so is this all cope? I think so, if the benefits only come from Chad exposure it's then an avenue for Chad more than for normies.

I've been with girls/had girlfriends temporarily but NEVER had a real social circle. In high school I had a few friends, that's it ... Never was really "cool" or "fit in." Yet all of the guys I know who had social circles weren't getting any if they didn't have sex appeal to begin with.

I never went to college officially because poorcel ... No money. So if all of these "just be social" posts really means "have a lot of money to do shit" then it's not helpful for poorcels, or maybe an incel who lives in rural areas where money won't matter (there is not a strong need of it to "socialmaxx"). So if the bottom line is you NEED MORE SEX APPEAL, then why cope with muh circle if sex appeal > NT/friends?

So once again, for sub-Chads, is a social circle really even all that useful? I'm on the fence because some soys get girls doing it but given I have had girlfriends with NO SOCIAL CIRCLE I am not convinced it's a "requirement" to get the most out of your looks if you don't really have optimal looks 100%. Like if it's all a buncha Chads or Chadlites talking of "social maxxing" that's bullshit, it's looks > social then ideally.

And yeah, muh "everything matters" muh muh BS I know, but IRL is there any big halo to merely have a meh social circle vs. not? I mean, even if it was possible how much would it benefit a normal looking guy with absolutely zero remarkable features or qualities, for example? Can't imagine him ascending much. So it's mostly just an avenue for Chadlite minimum to play numbers game more than anything.

So it's kinda BS many here say you "need" socialmaxxing but the ones who benefit from it most are fucking GigaChads who could get 100+ lays in his basement through Tinder and make FWBs/connections that way. Meanwhile I feel I'd be putting in more work for very marginal benefits I'd otherwise get anyways. Like yeah I want friends but if friends don't get you pussy, are you really reaching your goals 100% then?

So explain FAGGOTS how muh social circle works, how you build one over 30+ (for free) and how you fit in/succeed this way, or you're all full of shit/copes. I know I am a social retard who could use a social circle, but what grinds my gear is how it's dishonest in hw this works. You NEED the sex appeal first. YOU NEED THE LOOKS FIRST. At best a social circle keeps a sub-Chadlite/looks requirement guy from maybe roping and not being depressed, but I have drugs for that anyways. I want proof that socialmaxxing ascends low sex appeal niggas.

Cuz if it ain't ascending you and making you get sex easier and feeling validated, what is the real benefit there? Where is the contentment? It'd be like a buncha incels, or you'd be the loser in a group of sex-having dudes. I don't wanna be the 5th wheel of people, I wanna be the fucking DOM who shows up & wins, not some autist who'd otherwise benefit little because sex appeal is where he caps at, not merely lack of a social grouping. So either show proof that low sex appeal dudes benefit with girls rather than just be incels with friends.

Depends. What race are you?

 

[Deleted member 20704]

Depends. What race are you?

White obviously. I woul have put a bullet thru my head if I was a shitskin mullato specimen or such by now.

 

[Agendum]

White obviously. I woul have put a bullet thru my head if I was a shitskin mullato specimen or such by now.

Well, its actually harder for whites because they as a race have lost their abilities to form communities that grant you social circles in the first place. Ethnics on the other hand have communities and groups that allow them to hook single men up. Ever wonder why fat lazy and ugly mexican men are having children but the MTN white is not?

Whites have been conditioned to living rootless and atomized lives. Chances are that you are isolated and reduced to social media or dating apps. Its gonna take looking for some kinship kinda thing.

 

[Deleted member 21666]

Only way for 30+ is to:
1) ascend to Chadlite
2) move to another country with a different language - so you can justify why you are social loser
3) do a bunch of different hobbies until you get picked up by another group as a chill relaxed dude or find a NT maxxed foid with a friend group and steal her friends

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Not a word social circle is cope.

 

[thereallegend]

OK so what is your advice? It is "easy" but you explained nothing lol

I am broke and not ugly but still almost no opportunities in my area.

School is out of the question, I've tried my college town and I can't fit in there, too out of the loop.

I tried social events but everyone who goes either focuses on their phone and tunes everyone out or goes with someone and closes off contact with all else usually. So you can't ever "break in" you are stuck in limbo, you aren't allowed "in" anywhere really with a shot in the dark.

No old connections anymore, all bridges burned there (not my fault they cut me off btw) and nowhere else to start fresh from.

I'm assuming you don't have a job. So that's out of the question.

Do you have reliable transportation to be able to drive/fly farther distances?

Also do you have an active Yubo/Wizz/Insta/Snap/Discord?

 

[LastGerman]

Do you have reliable transportation to be able to drive

Brutal driver licence pill.

 

[HighClassMaxing]

Yup, since 2020 the - so called - socialife is basically in the internet, so you have to be successful in that place to get some illusion of social circle, however this is not the quality of social circle IRL.

Also, if you lack of context, like school/uni/collage/sociable work there is no way to build a social cirlce IRL. Therefore in general people are loosing friends when coming from early 20s to 30s and so on. Most people on their 30s have 1 or 2 closer friends and that's all. That's the simple dynamics of social life.

If you are still young, that young so you can go to uni or collage, then it is your pretty much last chance for getting some friends or a lifetime partner of high quality. Those friends would be also pretty much temporal more or less but could help you meet your love partner.

After uni it is very hard to socialmaxx. Maybe in big and fancy corporations where gen z is starting working you could meet some open people to hang out, but it's hard to materialize IRL if you don't have formal education, job experience, expertise and general knowledge how to get a white collar job in big corpo world.

Wtf is this shit I didnt sign up for this BS rather just rope

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

Wtf is this shit I didnt sign up for this BS rather just rope

What exactly is a bullshit in my post? This is how the real life is looking, if you can't digest it then you are just too low IQ, sorry bro.

 

[Deleted member 3041]

Yup, since 2020 the - so called - socialife is basically in the internet, so you have to be successful in that place to get some illusion of social circle, however this is not the quality of social circle IRL.

Also, if you lack of context, like school/uni/collage/sociable work there is no way to build a social cirlce IRL. Therefore in general people are loosing friends when coming from early 20s to 30s and so on. Most people on their 30s have 1 or 2 closer friends and that's all. That's the simple dynamics of social life.

If you are still young, that young so you can go to uni or collage, then it is your pretty much last chance for getting some friends or a lifetime partner of high quality. Those friends would be also pretty much temporal more or less but could help you meet your love partner.

After uni it is very hard to socialmaxx. Maybe in big and fancy corporations where gen z is starting working you could meet some open people to hang out, but it's hard to materialize IRL if you don't have formal education, job experience, expertise and general knowledge how to get a white collar job in big corpo world.

but i had no friends and i had left college i met a friend 1 year and 3 months ago at a disco since then we became friends and i became friends with a lot of his friends, they invite me to birthdays and other events

 

[Mewton]

>Be in college/uni
>Be NT
>Be non deformed

 

[thecel]

>Be in college/uni
>Be NT
>Be non deformed

doesn’t work

maybe it’s because I’m a 3/10 manlet (if that counts as “deformed” to you)

 

[Mewton]

doesn’t work

maybe it’s because I’m a 3/10 (if that’s considered “deformed” to you)

It works if you really tick the 3 boxes (You maybe coping thinking you do)

 

[thecel]

It works if you really tick the 3 boxes (You maybe coping thinking you do)

Is 3/10 “deformed” or not?

By NT, do you mean psychologically neurotypical or do you mean good social skills and charisma?

 

[mortis]

Is 3/10 “deformed” or not?

By NT, do you mean psychologically neurotypical or do you mean good social skills and charisma?

Bro you are bottom 1% facially, nt is cope anyways. Nt= gl face and good features resulting in an "outgoing and healthy" face and pheno.

 

[thecel]

Bro you are bottom 1% facially, nt is cope anyways. Nt= gl face and good features resulting in an "outgoing and healthy" face and pheno.

then why do 3/10 obese guys have male friends?

 

[mortis]

then why do 3/10 obese guys have male friends?

Everybody can have friends what do you mean.
Subhumans will form subhuman group
Nerds do the same
Gamers do the same
Autists do the same
Cool guys( above average face) will do the same.

 

[chosen-one]

Many here talk of how a social circle is "crucial" for sub-Chad guys, and even still beneficial for Chad hermits obviously vs. being a lonesome loser. Yeah, sure, but no one really can put their finger on how a loner "builds one" they just vaguely touch on the subject.

However, virtually NOBODY on here explains how you go from zero social circle anymore post college/high school to being successfully "socialcirclemaxxxed." Like, it's how fucking millionaires tell you to "just grind" to get out wageslavery as if that worked for most.

The ASSUMPTION here that "socialcirclemaxxed" means you are also "NT" or at least NT enough to supposedly reap the so-called benefits of said maxxing. Like if being NT/socialable "helped" then why was I able to have success without it? Proves it's not "required."

But how do you do it? Like, what does a loner with no money/social venues/connections do to build and be successful in a social circle, thus then reaping these benefits of sex, girlfriends, slays, good company/dopamine, etc. But how? HOW?! I've never had a proper social circle in my entire life, so is this all cope? I think so, if the benefits only come from Chad exposure it's then an avenue for Chad more than for normies.

I've been with girls/had girlfriends temporarily but NEVER had a real social circle. In high school I had a few friends, that's it ... Never was really "cool" or "fit in." Yet all of the guys I know who had social circles weren't getting any if they didn't have sex appeal to begin with.

I never went to college officially because poorcel ... No money. So if all of these "just be social" posts really means "have a lot of money to do shit" then it's not helpful for poorcels, or maybe an incel who lives in rural areas where money won't matter (there is not a strong need of it to "socialmaxx"). So if the bottom line is you NEED MORE SEX APPEAL, then why cope with muh circle if sex appeal > NT/friends?

So once again, for sub-Chads, is a social circle really even all that useful? I'm on the fence because some soys get girls doing it but given I have had girlfriends with NO SOCIAL CIRCLE I am not convinced it's a "requirement" to get the most out of your looks if you don't really have optimal looks 100%. Like if it's all a buncha Chads or Chadlites talking of "social maxxing" that's bullshit, it's looks > social then ideally.

And yeah, muh "everything matters" muh muh BS I know, but IRL is there any big halo to merely have a meh social circle vs. not? I mean, even if it was possible how much would it benefit a normal looking guy with absolutely zero remarkable features or qualities, for example? Can't imagine him ascending much. So it's mostly just an avenue for Chadlite minimum to play numbers game more than anything.

So it's kinda BS many here say you "need" socialmaxxing but the ones who benefit from it most are fucking GigaChads who could get 100+ lays in his basement through Tinder and make FWBs/connections that way. Meanwhile I feel I'd be putting in more work for very marginal benefits I'd otherwise get anyways. Like yeah I want friends but if friends don't get you pussy, are you really reaching your goals 100% then?

So explain FAGGOTS how muh social circle works, how you build one over 30+ (for free) and how you fit in/succeed this way, or you're all full of shit/copes. I know I am a social retard who could use a social circle, but what grinds my gear is how it's dishonest in hw this works. You NEED the sex appeal first. YOU NEED THE LOOKS FIRST. At best a social circle keeps a sub-Chadlite/looks requirement guy from maybe roping and not being depressed, but I have drugs for that anyways. I want proof that socialmaxxing ascends low sex appeal niggas.

Cuz if it ain't ascending you and making you get sex easier and feeling validated, what is the real benefit there? Where is the contentment? It'd be like a buncha incels, or you'd be the loser in a group of sex-having dudes. I don't wanna be the 5th wheel of people, I wanna be the fucking DOM who shows up & wins, not some autist who'd otherwise benefit little because sex appeal is where he caps at, not merely lack of a social grouping. So either show proof that low sex appeal dudes benefit with girls rather than just be incels with friends.

The only good soucal circle is if you are all equally respected and good looking and your activity is just going out and pulling chicks/being dick heads to others.

When you detract from this model into normie friend groups, the best looking one will be leader unless severely ND. Backstabbing, fakery, faggotry, and other stuff to be expected. The uggos are just hanging on desperately to the gl ones to not leave the group. Unless your the top guy you basically don’t even have a the other betas friendship it just beta orbiters around a perceived chad who prolly acc can’t pull anyways

Incel friend group is the same but more brutal probably and also self hate and you’re gonna just get swallowed in negativity. What are you even going to do w them? Talk abt how chicks are so evil or sim wack shit?

Being chad is law for good life

 

[thecel]

Everybody can have friends what do you mean.
Subhumans will form subhuman group
Needs do the same
Gamers do the same
Autists do the same
Cool guys( above average face) will do the same.

“Autists do the same”

cringe

there’s a male loneliness epidemic and you think even subhuman-looking autistics have social lives?

 

[mortis]

“Autists do the same”

cringe

there’s a male loneliness epidemic and you think even subhuman-looking autistics have social lives?

Yes, in school we were a bunch of gamer friends. We all were autistic and subhuman nerds ( sub 2 psl).
Cool guys( htn+) had their own group and they had massive smv and sexual value( because of FACE not because of connections or moooooooooooooouh social circles).

 

[Mewton]

Is 3/10 “deformed” or not?

Yes
If you don't fit in atleast the normie range (4-5/10 normie scale, not PSL scale). Chances are normies would try not to associate with you

By NT, do you mean psychologically neurotypical or do you mean good social skills and charisma?

Both
You need both and be actually be fun to be around after that

 

[SharpOrange]

this is the same i experienced as well.