THE FIRST CCW ROTATION IN PSL HISTORY HAS BEEN OBTAINED WITH MSE

Deleted member 2634 · Nov 14, 2020

ItisOver said:
Why? It makes sense tbh

I have a sixth sense for bullshits

Deleted member 6892 · Nov 14, 2020

NCT said:
I have a sixth sense for bullshits

Maxilla rotates + open bite
8hrs of chewing is enough to cause a rotation

But honestly fuck getting an open bite since they’re going to fix it by doing CW

AutisticBeaner · Nov 14, 2020

BigNoseSlavcel said:
Did you notice any change in your under eye area?

of course, my eyes have gotten significantly narrower

Deleted member 6892 · Nov 14, 2020

AutisticBeaner said:
of course, my eyes have gotten significantly narrower

Wait you’re chewing for 8 hrs a day? I’m chewing 8 pieces of falim for 4 hours and it’s already annoying to find time for it chewing for 8 hours sounds like a chore

Deleted member 2634 · Nov 14, 2020

ItisOver said:
Maxilla rotates + open bite
8hrs of chewing is enough to cause a rotation

But honestly fuck getting an open bite since they’re going to fix it by doing CW

Congratulations
To avoid a bimax to get CCW you got an open bite that requires a bimax

AutisticBeaner · Nov 14, 2020

ItisOver said:
Wait you’re chewing for 8 hrs a day? I’m chewing 8 pieces of falim for 4 hours and it’s already annoying to find time for it chewing for 8 hours sounds like a chore

i'm really lucky that the whole corona situation is going on, i could chew all day long. i put in small breaks when i'm going to eat something. i just put the gum into a glass and afterward put it in my mouth again

Deleted member 5385 · Nov 14, 2020

ItisOver said:
Maxilla rotates + open bite
8hrs of chewing is enough to cause a rotation

But honestly fuck getting an open bite since they’re going to fix it by doing CW

Idk , they also could ccw rotate mandible to meet maxilla .
Idk this guy case, he probably could avoid openbite with teeth together.
Hope @retard will soon say more about this , cause I am pretty interested .

curryslayerordeath · Nov 14, 2020

ItisOver said:
Mandible is technically supposed to autorotate provided teeth are kept together in next few months

its folding the anterior part of the teeth upwards tho, impossible to bend the mandible to have any kind of bite correction

p sure palate expansion itself leads to some mandible autorotation and according to my ortho, some small bite changes can be made post expansion to give the opportunity for more surgical rotation

Deleted member 5385 · Nov 14, 2020

@retard how long can I wait for more info

Deleted member 6892 · Nov 14, 2020

Hunterslayer said:
@retard how long can I wait for more info

Honestly if this is real it’s lifefuel to keep going

oatmeal · Nov 14, 2020

you guys need to be patient lol

SPFromNY914 · Nov 14, 2020

curryslayerordeath said:
if it was thru mse w surgical assist, which makes more sense as the whole maxillary bone is disarticulated, only the alveolar region would have rotated upwards (hence the open bite).

rotating upwards w/o a steep occlusal plane will also completely fuck over ur facial appearance too jfl

i dont think ppl realize that to fix an open bite, they will do the exact reverse movement jfl - and that open bites are very very complex to change along w being extremely uncomfortable

Meh, just sounds like shitty hopeless incel mentality. I'm not drawing conclusions but this case presented by retard sounds very promising i wouldnt write it off just yet. "The key to happiness/satisfaction to everything is having zero expectations whether good or bad"-Gary Vee

Btw I notice you're often giving off the party shitter type vibe @curryslayerordeath chill out with this bruh, personality does matter to an extent believe it or not. It's called Incel Mentality

Deleted member 2968 · Nov 14, 2020

Chintuck22 said:
And that's why you shouldn't follow this thread if your midface is rather of a normal length, you'll end up looking like a Barrett!

@BalkanPig here's a lifefuel thread for you boyo!

thanks bro

Deleted member 5385 · Nov 14, 2020

@betamanlet you thoughts as the highest IQ user here

curryslayerordeath · Nov 14, 2020

SPFromNY914 said:
Meh, just sounds like shitty hopeless incel mentality. I'm not drawing conclusions but this case presented by retard sounds very promising i wouldnt write it off just yet. "The key to happiness/satisfaction to everything is having zero expectations whether good or bad"-Gary Vee

Btw I notice you're often giving off the party shitter type vibe @curryslayerordeath chill out with this bruh, personality does matter to an extent believe it or not. It's called Incel Mentality

bro im not some no life incel nor do i intend to shit on anything jfl

my points are mainly to be cautious about making these 'autistic' actions, which leads to unintended consequeunces. looksmaxxing is legit, i am in pretreatment for jaw surgery and am waiting on the lab to make my MSE. there are a large portion of users here who make quite delusional statements, while simultaneously not intending to do anything themselves, hence u get ppl shitting on everything that wont instantly transform u to a psl 8 gigachad.

someone above said how users here know more than professionals, which is extremely false. most blackpilled doctors' knowledge spans wayyyyy beyond even the highest iq of us inexperienced teens. you should have reasonable expectations wrt to stuff u do; things like a full ccw rotation of the midface are not possible, but life still goes on and u can still look decent. going against ur orthos advice and fucking up ur bite just for some theory about midface shortening is pretty stupid imo.

Deleted member 5385 · Nov 14, 2020

curryslayerordeath said:
bro im not some no life incel nor do i intend to shit on anything jfl

my points are mainly to be cautious about making these 'autistic' actions, which leads to unintended consequeunces. looksmaxxing is legit, i am in pretreatment for jaw surgery and am waiting on the lab to make my MSE. there are a large portion of users here who make quite delusional statements, while simultaneously not intending to do anything themselves, hence u get ppl shitting on everything that wont instantly transform u to a psl 8 gigachad.

someone above said how users here know more than professionals, which is extremely false. most blackpilled doctors' knowledge spans wayyyyy beyond even the highest iq of us inexperienced teens. you should have reasonable expectations wrt to stuff u do; things like a full ccw rotation of the midface are not possible, but life still goes on and u can still look decent. going against ur orthos advice and fucking up ur bite just for some theory about midface shortening is pretty stupid imo.

I must ignore you sorry , that Hurts too much
If I had your views I would commit suicade before being born
Edit:done

Deleted member 5385 · Nov 14, 2020

Btw I notice you're often giving off the party shitter type vibe @curryslayerordeath chill out with this bruh, personality does matter to an extent believe it or not. It's called Incel Mentality
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Idk why but same, I don't see any point in being so fuckin skeptical in literally everything , its so toxic, plus life is so short by atheists and agnostics that there is literally no point in being so skeptical and eclipse every little Hope.
I wouldn't want to have such view on my life.

betamanlet · Nov 14, 2020

Hunterslayer said:
@betamanlet you thoughts as the highest IQ user here

Thanks for the love. Looking forward to seeing the results. I suspect that instead of actual CCW rotation, what we are dealing with here is remodeling of the alveolar ridge and stress adaptions at certain points of the circummaxillary area... but who knows, perhaps the x-rays will reveal something more profound than that.

Portland TMJ Clinic has written an insightful article series which among other things talks about the importance of incisor-based occlusion. The jaws are meant to keep growing throughout your life, with the mandible swinging forward in response to tooth wear and the consequent reduction in dental height. In turn, this would then stimulate the maxilla and the related sutures and allow the maxilla to fluidly adapt to the changed jaw dynamics.

When the bite is too deep, this mechanism does not play out correctly, causing not only backward growth of the mandible, but potentially pre-mature ossification of the craniofacial sutures too due to lack of correct mechanical stimulation. In this sense loosening the sutures with MSE might have been an excellent call by whoever OP is talking about.

Give it a read, it's lengthy but you will learn a lot.