If you have a narrow jaw + 0 lateral cheekbones, your midface will look long

[Akatlyn]

Even if it's not long (in term of ratio).
In fact it mainly comes from the lack of lateral zygos, more than mandible.

The good new is : it's possible to fix it, if your midface has a 0.95 or more ratio

 

[VenatorLuparius]

Elab.

 

[Akatlyn]

Elab.

0 lateral zygos (and gonions) projection VS good lateral zygos (and gonions) projection.

 

[makeme183]

0 lateral zygos (and gonions) projection VS good lateral zygos (and gonions) projection.

is this a morph ?

 

[Deleted member 18582]

yes just increase width to match the length lol

 

[Deleted member 29724]

0 lateral zygos (and gonions) projection VS good lateral zygos (and gonions) projection.

What surgery’s

 

[Deleted member 31155]

What surgery

cheekbone and midface implants ig

 

[Deleted member 31155]

OP, does this apply to this guy as well?

I measured this guy's midface and surprisingly it was around 1 (average midface ratio)

I unironically thought he had a long midface at a first glance but no he doesnt, his midface is perfectly fine. Its just that his entire face is flat.

 

[Deleted member 18582]

OP, does this apply to this guy as well?
View attachment 2322278

I measured this guy's midface and surprisingly it was around 1 (average midface ratio)

I unironically thought he had a long midface at a first glance but no he doesnt, his midface is perfectly fine. Its just that his entire face is flat.

I think this is exactly right, I have a similar issue where I look like I have a long midface even though the ratio checks out. It's just because everything is flat

 

[Deleted member 29581]

I think this is exactly right, I have a similar issue where I look like I have a long midface even though the ratio checks out. It's just because everything is flat

If im 16 but feel the zygos right under the skin, but not the same for my canine fossa is there any chance through development and elasticity my cheekbones more prominent

 

[Deleted member 31155]

I think this is exactly right, I have a similar issue where I look like I have a long midface even though the ratio checks out. It's just because everything is flat

Seems like im close to cracking this mystery.

---- you have a short midface but the lack of bone projection in your face makes it look like you have a long one.

anyways what surgeries would fix that issue u say? maybe implants for more mass projection ( zygo and midface implants )
or that could be a maxilla issue (doubt it)

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Seems like im close to cracking this mystery.

---- you have a short midface but the lack of bone projection in your face makes it look like you have a long one.

anyways what surgeries would fix that issue u say? maybe implants for more mass projection ( zygo and midface implants )
or that could be a maxilla issue (doubt it)

Impossible to say without pics

yes what you've bolded is likely the principle, although it is probably more affecting those who have average length midfaces rather than compact ones. I can't see flatface making a compact one look long. Maybe average

 

[Deleted member 31155]

Impossible to say without pics

yes what you've bolded is likely the principle, although it is probably more affecting those who have average length midfaces rather than compact ones. I can't see flatface making a compact one look long. Maybe average

Is your face bloated or lean?

 

[Banasura]

0 lateral zygos (and gonions) projection VS good lateral zygos (and gonions) projection.

the negative canthal tilt is gigaover

 

[malicieusss]

0 lateral zygos (and gonions) projection VS good lateral zygos (and gonions) projection.

This is honestly lifefuel for me. That's what I always thought tbh. Midface length can be frauded by having proper bigonial and bizygomatic width.

 

[Akatlyn]

the negative canthal tilt is gigaover

I have positive tilt but slighty negative hooding or too much hooding.

It's true that on my before picture it looked like I had negative tilt (and much more UUE as the browridge was less decelopped) but today... I'm far to be over because of the eye area. Only the undereyes need a touch with fat graft or something like that.
These lateral cheekbones fillers looked too good and corrected the main failo. For some reasons, they lasted longer than the gonions which faded firstly.
Lateral cheekbones are too important and are like a halo

 

[Deleted member 29167]

I have positive tilt but slighty negative hooding or too much hooding.

It's true that on my before picture it looked like I had negative tilt (and much more UUE as the browridge was less decelopped) but today... I'm far to be over because of the eye area. Only the undereyes need a touch with fat graft or something like that.
These lateral cheekbones fillers looked too good and corrected the main failo. For some reasons, they lasted longer than the gonions which faded firstly.
Lateral cheekbones are too important and are like a halo

why do you never post videos in motion? im very impressed by your ascension but the pics look kinda fake yk

 

[Akatlyn]

why do you never post videos in motion? im very impressed by your ascension but the pics look kinda fake yk

Because I descended a lot, as I lost the main reason of my ascension : the jaw and cheek fillers. They corrected my main failo (face not wide and angular enough from face) and added dymorphism

Now I still look better than the before picture but definitely not as good as the after. Once I get fillers again (+ maybe fat graft) I'll do videos in motion

 

[Deleted member 29167]

Because I descended a lot, as I lost the main reason of my ascension : the jaw and cheek fillers. They corrected my main failo (face not wide and angular enough from face) and added dymorphism

Now I still look better than the before picture but definitely not as good as the after. Once I get fillers again (+ maybe fat graft) I'll do videos in motion

why dont you just go get filler again at the place u got ur last filler? too expensive or what?

 

[Akatlyn]

why dont you just go get filler again at the place u got ur last filler? too expensive or what?

I do not have the money to do that, sadly, I'm ruined. So I'm working and saving money

 

[Akatlyn]

If im 16 but feel the zygos right under the skin, but not the same for my canine fossa is there any chance through development and elasticity my cheekbones more prominent

Under my eyes I barely feel nothing, that's crazy

 

[Deleted member 18582]

I have positive tilt but slighty negative hooding or too much hooding.

It's true that on my before picture it looked like I had negative tilt (and much more UUE as the browridge was less decelopped) but today... I'm far to be over because of the eye area. Only the undereyes need a touch with fat graft or something like that.
These lateral cheekbones fillers looked too good and corrected the main failo. For some reasons, they lasted longer than the gonions which faded firstly.
Lateral cheekbones are too important and are like a halo

where are lateral cheekbones filler put in exactly? are they entirely on the side of the face, on the front, or on the space where the front meets the side? like can y

 

[Akatlyn]

OP, does this apply to this guy as well?
View attachment 2322278

I measured this guy's midface and surprisingly it was around 1 (average midface ratio)

I unironically thought he had a long midface at a first glance but no he doesnt, his midface is perfectly fine. Its just that his entire face is flat.

Completely.
He has wide gonions so at the first glance his face looks wide enough but when you look at the midface it's very flat, 0 zygo projection.

His face doesn't look really long but not very optimal
His nose is a huge failo and also could explain the midface too

 

[Deleted member 31155]

Completely.
He has wide gonions so at the first glance his face looks wide enough but when you look at the midface it's very flat, 0 zygo projection.

His eye doesn't look really long but not very optimal too

So basically, 1. cheekbone implants, 2. midface implants and 3. jaw implants(?)
to get rid of the long midface illusion?
Keep in mind this guy is not recessed, and has done leanmaxxing (yes, he is an .org user)

 

[Yoke]

Because I descended a lot, as I lost the main reason of my ascension : the jaw and cheek fillers. They corrected my main failo (face not wide and angular enough from face) and added dymorphism

Now I still look better than the before picture but definitely not as good as the after. Once I get fillers again (+ maybe fat graft) I'll do videos in motion

Curious How long did the filler actually keep your jaw angular before it started migrating/dissolving?

 

[Akatlyn]

So basically, 1. cheekbone implants, 2. midface implants and 3. jaw implants(?),
to get rid of the long midface illusion?
Keep in mind this guy is not recessed, and has done leanmaxxing (yes, he is an .org user)

Jaw implants no (his gonions are wide) or maybe chin only. He also absolutely need a Rhino, his nose descends him too much.
Zygos implants to raise the lateral projection.

 

[Akatlyn]

where are lateral cheekbones filler put in exactly? are they entirely on the side of the face, on the front, or on the space where the front meets the side? like can y

It really depends of what you want and your zygos initial position

 

[Deleted member 31155]

Jaw implants no (his gonions are wide) or maybe chin only. He also absolutely need a Rhino, his nose descends him too much.
Zygos implants to raise the lateral projection.

I see, great explanation here.

 

[Akatlyn]

I see, great explanation here.

Probably infra implants too, to correct the undereyes

 

[Deleted member 31155]

Probably infra implants too, to correct the undereyes

Nah not only infra orbitals. This guy needs to undergo full almond eye surgery at Taban and exclusively only at Taban because thats a death tier area. Severe UEE and scleral show with lack of undereye bone. Its still salvageable but he needs 30k out of his pocket.

 

[Deleted member 18582]

It really depends of what you want and your zygos initial position

well where did you get them

 

[mvp2v1]

0 lateral zygos (and gonions) projection VS good lateral zygos (and gonions) projection.

Whats* the age difference to be there

 

[Jarate]

Because I descended a lot, as I lost the main reason of my ascension : the jaw and cheek fillers. They corrected my main failo (face not wide and angular enough from face) and added dymorphism

Now I still look better than the before picture but definitely not as good as the after. Once I get fillers again (+ maybe fat graft) I'll do videos in motion

no way, is this really you ?? you look really high class british actor type of shit

Especially with your eyes
Did you only use fillers ?
Congratulations, you look insanely good

This also confirms that a lot of influencers got fillers (instead of "growing up"), i did not realize it was this versatile

 

[Deleted member 19766]

OP, does this apply to this guy as well?
View attachment 2322278

I measured this guy's midface and surprisingly it was around 1 (average midface ratio)

I unironically thought he had a long midface at a first glance but no he doesnt, his midface is perfectly fine. Its just that his entire face is flat.

Even if it's not long (in term of ratio).
In fact it mainly comes from the lack of lateral zygos, more than mandible.

The good new is : it's possible to fix it, if your midface has a 0.95 or more ratio

Yes, this is why FWHR is more important than MFR, and like you said, not just zygo width but the bigonial width matters too

A flat midface/maxilla will def make your face look longer too, every single person I can think of that looks long-faced always has a pretty flat profile like Keanu Reeves

 

[Deleted member 31155]

Yes, this is why FWHR is more important than MFR, and like you said, not just zygo width but the bigonial width matters too

A flat midface/maxilla will def make your face look longer too, every single person I can think of that looks long-faced always has a pretty flat profile like Keanu Reeves

This guy has a long midface despite having a midface ratio of 1.08

looksmax.org

 

[Blackgymmax]

I have positive tilt but slighty negative hooding or too much hooding.

It's true that on my before picture it looked like I had negative tilt (and much more UUE as the browridge was less decelopped) but today... I'm far to be over because of the eye area. Only the undereyes need a touch with fat graft or something like that.
These lateral cheekbones fillers looked too good and corrected the main failo. For some reasons, they lasted longer than the gonions which faded firstly.
Lateral cheekbones are too important and are like a halo

Lol this literally looks like a morph from a video game lol. Hahahaha