Who mogs for LTR appeal? Foids with high PSL/low SMV, or low PSL/high SMV?

[Deleted member 15309]

Even on Hinge Standouts/Tinder Top Pics, these are the most popular foids
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All are white, MTB-HTB with the all-important Love Island pheno. A Stacylite emo girl won't stand a chance against these foids if she wants her looksmatch.

emo stacylite loves medium uglies

 

[Xangsane]

I'm really disappointed in him for throwing this foid away too. Seems like a she's a well-rounded human being rather than a generic NPC.

I think the high sex appeal medium uglies generally get with men who are also high sex appeal but often/sometimes higher PSL than them also. So basically masculine, neurotypical MTN to Chadlite men. True Chads will generally still be out of reach (save for a very rare ONS) for them I think because they are extremely rare and have actual Stacies to choose from.

Also, this chick in particular was a Tinder match of mine in 2019. I don't think it's 100% inconceivable I could've had an ONS with her if my text game had been better and I had gotten to her sooner (still a longshot in any case). So maybe these chicks hookup with decent looking guys of various types who are not slayers but only incidentally/situationally interested in ONS with them (and have the opportunity).

Agreed with him. He's even pretty guarded with me and my friend he knows. Do you reckon it would be harder for foids like that to find their looksmatch and NPCmatch?

I've noticed that too, but often times the higher PSL men don't stay with them. Plus, they always tend to have a certain type of look. Chavvy, love island kinda look. Does my friend fit that category?

I wonder if the foid he talked to would end up with a similar guy easily in terms of looksmatch but it might be hard for her because in here, people prefer Love Island looking foids (especially for STR) even if they have a lower PSL.

How much interest did that Tinder chick give you? She doesn't look like LTR material to me.

 

[Xangsane]

emo stacylite loves medium uglies

The foid I talked about in the OP was more of a posh type
agreed with emos being with medium uglies though

 

[Xangsane]

Similar in the states
A lot of dudes like cakefaced, fake tan, ugly blonde girls while I'm genuinely repulsed by them

Do they even LTR them?

 

[Xangsane]

Even on Hinge Standouts/Tinder Top Pics, these are the most popular foids
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All are white, MTB-HTB with the all-important Love Island pheno. A Stacylite emo girl won't stand a chance against these foids if she wants her looksmatch.

@Br0sk1 thoughts on these foids? most people here rated them MTB, HTB max
The foid my friend was talking to had black hair, much lighter skin, better lower third/maxilla, better ratios, more hooded eyes with less UEE, similar face structure like this foid but forehead isn't as massive and less aged skin/better collagen:

 

[Br0sk1]

Agreed with him. He's even pretty guarded with me and my friend he knows. Do you reckon it would be harder for foids like that to find their looksmatch and NPCmatch?

I've noticed that too, but often times the higher PSL men don't stay with them. Plus, they always tend to have a certain type of look. Chavvy, love island kinda look. Does my friend fit that category?

I wonder if the foid he talked to would end up with a similar guy easily in terms of looksmatch but it might be hard for her because in here, people prefer Love Island looking foids (especially for STR) even if they have a lower PSL.

How much interest did that Tinder chick give you? She doesn't look like LTR material to me.

I think it would be harder for HQNP foids to find someone who is similarly not NPC as them, but getting a looksmatch or slightly higher shouldn't be too tough. I think the foid your friend ditched can maybe find a 5-ish PSL man who is also HQNP (whether jock or prettyboy type) and not too much of an NPC.

I wouldn't say your friend looks too Chavvy, but it seems he may be trying to Chavmaxx to go slumming with Love Island foids that he mogs to death.

The Tinder chick literally didn't respond, but I only got to her 15 mins after matching and I left kind of a simpy comment about how I liked her one pic with coloured winged eyeliner or something (I've never had a great text game). I think what I said just wasn't appealing to her in any way. I suspect she also just made a throwaway account because she was looking for an ONS.

 

[Br0sk1]

@Br0sk1 thoughts on these foids? most people here rated them MTB, HTB max
The foid my friend was talking to had black hair, much lighter skin, better lower third/maxilla, better ratios, more hooded eyes with less UEE, similar face structure like this foid but forehead isn't as massive and less aged skin/better collagen:
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That chick I'd probably rate HTB (but I'm relatively generous). She might be MTB under the makeup.

The foid your friend was talking to sounds pretty GL.

 

[Xangsane]

I think it would be harder for HQNP foids to find someone who is similarly not NPC as them, but getting a looksmatch or slightly higher shouldn't be too tough. I think the foid your friend ditched can maybe find a 5-ish PSL man who is also HQNP (whether jock or prettyboy type) and not too much of an NPC.

I wouldn't say your friend looks too Chavvy, but it seems he may be trying to Chavmaxx to go slumming with Love Island foids that he mogs to death.

The Tinder chick literally didn't respond, but I only got to her 15 mins after matching and I left kind of a simpy comment about how I liked her one pic with coloured winged eyeliner or something (I've never had a great text game). I think what I said just wasn't appealing to her in any way. I suspect she also just made a throwaway account because she was looking for an ONS.

I believe some foids might give a little leeway to NPCness because and that most non-NPC men tend to be PSL 4 or below from what I've observed
What's an example of an HQNP male vs a HQP male? Do you think jocks or prettyboys are more likely to be HQNP? The foid is 23 IIRC?

Fairs. Do you think he has a type based on all this info?

JFL, she most likely wanted to look for a high sex appeal chadlite she could have sex with and hope she gets an ltr with him.

 

[Xangsane]

That chick I'd probably rate HTB (but I'm relatively generous). She might be MTB under the makeup.

The foid your friend was talking to sounds pretty GL.

Agreed tbh.

What rating does the foid sound like based on the desc?

 

[LookmaxBlau]

I feel that if you have a high psl as a man that gives you a advantage with a person with lower smv

 

[Ken]

Obviously the first one.

Only exception is my oneitis who is more like the second option.

 

[ToTheTop]

First one is for having a relationship with and building something meaningful.

The second one is great for casual no strings attached sex with no feelings or attachment.

Sounds like your mate just wants casual fun sex and attention. If he says he actually wants a proper relationship he's lying to himself as his actions say otherwise.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

on the whole I prefer HQNP types

But due to my pheno ive never ever pulled a high sex appeal slutty bimbo type, and I really want to fuck one just once for the experince so might see an escort

 

[Br0sk1]

I believe some foids might give a little leeway to NPCness because and that most non-NPC men tend to be PSL 4 or below from what I've observed
What's an example of an HQNP male vs a HQP male? Do you think jocks or prettyboys are more likely to be HQNP? The foid is 23 IIRC?

Fairs. Do you think he has a type based on all this info?

JFL, she most likely wanted to look for a high sex appeal chadlite she could have sex with and hope she gets an ltr with him.

Agreed on the leeway with NPCness and possibly on the foid I posted wanting to convert a Chadlite ONS into an LTR.

I'm not really sure your friend has a type. He seems very confused as to what he wants in a woman (regardless, he's still being an idiot).

I think an example of an HQNP male would be someone like Pat Tillman or even Tom Brady at the jock end of the spectrum while Hugh Laughton-Scott would be an HQNP among softer men. Lots of other male models are HQNP softboys as well.

HQP men would include the Paul brothers (Jake & Logan), Jersey Shore and Love Island cast members at the more jock end of the spectrum, while innumerate TikTok eBoys and soundcloud rappers are HQP softboys/prettyboys.

 

[Br0sk1]

Agreed tbh.

What rating does the foid sound like based on the desc?

She sounds Stacylite, but maybe only weakly so.

 

[Xangsane]

@noodlelover

 

[Xangsane]

She sounds Stacylite, but maybe only weakly so.

I'd rate her about 5 - 5.25 PSL based on the pic my friend showed me. Is this within the low stacylite range?

 

[Xangsane]

I feel that if you have a high psl as a man that gives you a advantage with a person with lower smv

We're referring to women here.

 

[Xangsane]

Obviously the first one.

Only exception is my oneitis who is more like the second option.

Why the first over the second?
here in the uK, people seem to prefer the second. why would my friend throw away a foid like the first option jfl. (they never had sex though)

 

[Xangsane]

First one is for having a relationship with and building something meaningful.

The second one is great for casual no strings attached sex with no feelings or attachment.

Sounds like your mate just wants casual fun sex and attention. If he says he actually wants a proper relationship he's lying to himself as his actions say otherwise.

Here, many people seem to prefer people with the Love Island pheno. Would a foid of type A struggle to get her looksmatch because of the pheno preferences among young men here?

Foids like the second type dominate dating apps. Have you even seen the Hinge Standouts in the UK? These foids are Scottish:

Who mogs for LTR appeal? Foids with high PSL/low SMV, or low PSL/high SMV?

JFL at my Chad (PSL 5.75) friend. He told me that he wanted an LTR with a HQNP, GL foid, so he almost got one with some PSL 5.25 posh foid. For the full story, see here: https://looksmax.org/threads/im-so-angry-at-my-chad-friend-right-now.470959/ I saw his story and there he was kissing a Love...

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I definitely feel so. He's pretty wishy-washy with goals and never gives clear cut answers even to me and my friend. Which is a dealbreaker for foids wanting LTRs.

Usually, foids would still latch onto him. Surprising the foid blocked him and moved on?

 

[Xangsane]

on the whole I prefer HQNP types

But due to my pheno ive never ever pulled a high sex appeal slutty bimbo type, and I really want to fuck one just once for the experince so might see an escort

What's your pheno like?

 

[Xangsane]

Agreed on the leeway with NPCness and possibly on the foid I posted wanting to convert a Chadlite ONS into an LTR.

I'm not really sure your friend has a type. He seems very confused as to what he wants in a woman (regardless, he's still being an idiot).

I think an example of an HQNP male would be someone like Pat Tillman or even Tom Brady at the jock end of the spectrum while Hugh Laughton-Scott would be an HQNP among softer men. Lots of other male models are HQNP softboys as well.

HQP men would include the Paul brothers (Jake & Logan), Jersey Shore and Love Island cast members at the more jock end of the spectrum, while innumerate TikTok eBoys and soundcloud rappers are HQP softboys/prettyboys.

Why do foids think they can larp about wanting casual to get Chads and Chadlites in their pool, have sex with them and hope for an LTR?

Agreed - even when he's talking to me and my friend he's pretty wishy-washy with what he wants in life, general goals and all. He wants to save up money for a home he told us one day, yet his actual spending habits say otherwise.......

How could I pick out a HQNP man over a HQP guy for rating purposes on this forum? I'm good at doing that with foids. I'm guessing it't trust features?

Maher seems to be popular here - I'd class him as HQP. What about Dr Alex from Love Island? people here said he stuck out like a sore thumb

IMO, HQNP chads/chadlites tend to be rarer than HQP chads/chadlites. I'd consider my friend a HQP Chad, you?

 

[Deleted]

JFL at my Chad (PSL 5.75) friend. He told me that he wanted an LTR with a HQNP, GL foid, so he almost got one with some PSL 5.25 posh foid.

Ur death tier bad larps are getting annoying at this point. Everyone knows that when you say shit like Colton Haynes look a like chad friend that your referring to urself/what u think of urself.

 

[Xangsane]

Ur death tier bad larps are getting annoying at this point. Everyone knows that when you say shit like Colton Haynes look a like chad friend that your referring to urself/what u think of urself.

I look nothing like him

 

[Deleted]

I look nothing like him

Kys at this point

 

[Xangsane]

Kys at this point

I bet your tiktok is full of Rob Lowe edits

 

[Deleted]

I bet your tiktok is full of Rob Lowe edits

Indeed is.

Just finished Oxford blues. Recently watched st elmos fire. A week ago i watched the outsiders and Before that i watched Youngblood.

 

[Xangsane]

Indeed is.

Just finished Oxford blues. Recently watched st elmos fire. A week ago i watched the outsiders and Before that i watched Youngblood.

Drop us your edits then bro

 

[Deleted]

Drop us your edits then bro

You're still a faggot w a shit larp

 

[Br0sk1]

Why do foids think they can larp about wanting casual to get Chads and Chadlites in their pool, have sex with them and hope for an LTR?

Agreed - even when he's talking to me and my friend he's pretty wishy-washy with what he wants in life, general goals and all. He wants to save up money for a home he told us one day, yet his actual spending habits say otherwise.......

How could I pick out a HQNP man over a HQP guy for rating purposes on this forum? I'm good at doing that with foids. I'm guessing it't trust features?

Maher seems to be popular here - I'd class him as HQP. What about Dr Alex from Love Island? people here said he stuck out like a sore thumb

IMO, HQNP chads/chadlites tend to be rarer than HQP chads/chadlites. I'd consider my friend a HQP Chad, you?

Not sure why they larp this way. They have some weird notion that if they give a GL man sex that he'll be roped in emotionally into committing.

Your friend just seems like someone with poor discipline and identity issues. I'd say he's in between HQP and HQNP. Just a confused in-betweener.

Maher seems HQP or toward that end of the spectrum. Dr. Alex is probably a rare HQNP to make it to being on Love Island.

HQNP Chads and Chadlites probably are rarer because K-selected people will often not occupy the highest echelons of aesthetic excellence, but merely appear "properly grown" (so MTN and HTN males; MTB and HTB females) and be pleasant but non-gorgeous to look at for evolutionary reasons, I think.

 

[Xangsane]

You're still a faggot w a shit larp

Muh larp

 

[Xangsane]

Not sure why they larp this way. They have some weird notion that if they give a GL man sex that he'll be roped in emotionally into committing.

Your friend just seems like someone with poor discipline and identity issues. I'd say he's in between HQP and HQNP. Just a confused in-betweener.

Maher seems HQP or toward that end of the spectrum. Dr. Alex is probably a rare HQNP to make it to being on Love Island.

HQNP Chads and Chadlites probably are rarer because K-selected people will often not occupy the highest echelons of aesthetic excellence, but merely appear "properly grown" (so MTN and HTN males; MTB and HTB females) and be pleasant but non-gorgeous to look at for evolutionary reasons, I think.

A lot of foids think this and they could get away with manipulation like that. What they don't understand is that we don't think this way.

Fairs, I can definitely see that.

Would you say any of these are hqp or hqnp?

 

[Br0sk1]

A lot of foids think this and they could get away with manipulation like that. What they don't understand is that we don't think this way.

Fairs, I can definitely see that.

Would you say any of these are hqp or hqnp?

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Yeah, so much for all their "social awareness" lol. Female solipsism strikes again.

I'd say from left to right:

HQNP, HQP, HQP, HQNP, broadly speaking. There could be individual exceptions in those morphs and they also might not represent extremes of primitiveness/non-primitiveness either.

The HQNPs look more like Final Fantasy characters to me or like what an East Asian person's idea of an ideal GL man is, which makes sense as East Asians are more K-selected than Whites and most/all other races.

 

[Ken]

Why the first over the second?
here in the uK, people seem to prefer the second. why would my friend throw away a foid like the first option jfl. (they never had sex though)

No one wants to LTR a slut.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

What's your pheno like?

I’m not sure how I’d describe it but I’ll send you my pics if you liek

 

[Xangsane]

I’m not sure how I’d describe it but I’ll send you my pics if you liek

Go on.

 

[Xangsane]

No one wants to LTR a slut.

So why is the Love Island (with NPC traits) pheno preferred for LTR in the UK?

 

[Xangsane]

Yeah, so much for all their "social awareness" lol. Female solipsism strikes again.

I'd say from left to right:

HQNP, HQP, HQP, HQNP, broadly speaking. There could be individual exceptions in those morphs and they also might not represent extremes of primitiveness/non-primitiveness either.

The HQNPs look more like Final Fantasy characters to me or like what an East Asian person's idea of an ideal GL man is, which makes sense as East Asians are more K-selected than Whites and most/all other races.

I did remember talking to a Vindicta foid on Discord (when I used to lurk in the server before being banned because they won't let me in as they knew I used the FaceApp genderswap to fraud as a female JFL) who wanted to LTR her equal (HQNP, GL (non-Chad), similar upbringing and decently educated) and she told me that people told her she shouldn't lower her standards for LTR as she was already in a good place to be, but she was worried about competing with other women, possibly lower-quality women, who would readily give out sex for those same men, with those other women hoping they'd secure an LTR after sex. As a result she didn't date at all and chose to work on self-improvement.

I asked her about what she could offer other than sex and looks and she too, like this foid, said she enjoys a wide range of hobbies (won't give examples). From our convos she seemed well-spoken and it was easy to get along with her.

The foid, like this other foid in the OP, is of a similar attractiveness level, but is Jewish-American IIRC, and a lifetime volcel. Also early 20s. Man, I've talked to about 3 volcels from that server. But most of the foids there (based on what I've seen lurking on that subreddit) are hoping to hold out for Chad. At least this Jewish foid is being realistic.

Honestly, if the American woman lived here in the UK, she might find it easier to get her match, as hypergamy is brutal here, more so than in North America (both places are still extremely hypergamous)

2 women were like exactly like this on that server.

Agreed with the primitiveness of those morphs.

What do the HQPs look like to you? Definitely getting FF vibes from them. What do you rate them?

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Female de poop would be best to date I think. Her looking like a mentally ill emo would mean she may get less attention and she therefore would underestimate her looks level. I think you'd have a better chance of her not leaving you as a result.

 

[Xangsane]

Female de poop would be best to date I think. Her looking like a mentally ill emo would mean she may get less attention and she therefore would underestimate her looks level. I think you'd have a better chance of her not leaving you as a result.

So why do people here like love island looking women rather than hqnp foids? Weird.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

So why do people here like love island looking women rather than hqnp foids? Weird.

Prolly because it gets their dicks harder. But that's what's causing them to be more likely to chase chad, they think they deserve better because she has one hundred and one men kissing her ass while De pootette only has 50 men kissing her ass.

 

[Xangsane]

Prolly because it gets their dicks harder. But that's what's causing them to be more likely to chase chad, they think they deserve better because she has one hundred and one men kissing her ass while De pootette only has 50 men kissing her ass.

Would you say fashion/style matters for women's SMV?

What a mogger

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Would you say fashion/style matters for women's SMV?

What a mogger
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Ideal tbh. De poot is looking good.

 

[currylightskin]

High smv

 

[Xangsane]

High smv

Why high SMV over high PSL?

 

[Xangsane]

Ideal tbh. De poot is looking good.

Shame this pheno isn't ideal here in the UK, and this is seen as GL instead:

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Shame this pheno isn't ideal here in the UK, and this is seen as GL instead:
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Male smv roughly equals psl

Female smv equals revealing clothing.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Style can double female smv. Just wearing skimpy clothing will result in men rating her a 10 regardless of face. "muh, she's beautiful"

 

[Xangsane]

Male smv roughly equals psl

Female smv equals revealing clothing.

Exactly. Which is why here in the UK, women like her get Chadlites and Chads:

and women like her don't:

 

[Xangsane]

Style can double female smv. Just wearing skimpy clothing will result in men rating her a 10 regardless of face. "muh, she's beautiful"

Which is why these are the most popular dating app profiles in Scotland JFL:

None of these women are above 4.5 PSL.