Why Masseter Matters for Males

[LowInhibIncel]

Masseter muscles are one of the most important things that you can soft looksmax, by chewing to hypertrophy the masseter.

Just like any soft or hard looksmax it comes with pro's and con's

Gym can cause injuries
Surgeries can be botches
Moneymaxxing can stress you out and lower your looks

Pro's

The masseter is a huge muscle which not only allows you to get bigonial width (it's like increasing you bideltoid, but for your face), but also gives depth to your face as I'll show. However it also improves other ratio's on your face.

You see the musculature of the face is unique from the rest of the body. Whereas every muscle in your body connects to bone. Some muscles in your face actually connect to other muscles. For example the muscle surrounding the lips

Masculine Muscles in Blue Feminine in Pink
(credits to Buism)

Is directly influenced by the zygoma/maxilia bones and the masseter

+ Lip Width

Why would you want wider lips well it's one of the most dimorphic male features

Look how much he ascends with a wider mouth. However for him to have a wider mouth he'd have to have a bigger masseter
There's also this study on how a wider mouth is correlated with leadership

+ It defines cheekbones and gives your face depth

+ Forward Growth long term
(read PSA on Craniofacial Development)

Let's look at an extreme(this is like guys who are roided up and too muscular) example of unilateral masseter hypertrophy. These are good as you can compare the left and right side of the face

- Notice how the cheekbones and maxila on the right side are defined all the way down to the chin. This is because the skin is pulled back and gives the face a tighter look
- Look at how the lips on the right side are thinner and wider

Plus the width he gains although it's over kill in this case it's even wider than Brad Pitt's which is overkill for black men. The only reason why Brad Pitt gets away with it is because white + blonde = most feminine phenotype. So his jaw balances it out

(while Brad Pit's Jaw is very wide his zygomatic breadth isn't)

BONUS

If you had ate hard foods from a young age you would've had a better maxilla and higher cheekbones. You can still get some changes as an adult, but the changes are probably much slower

Relationship between masseter muscle size and maxillary morphology - PubMed

The aim of this study was to investigate the relationship between masseter muscle size and craniofacial morphology, focusing on the maxilla. Twenty-four patients (11 males and 13 females; mean age 27.6 ± 5.6 years) underwent cephalometric analyses. Ultrasonography was used to measure the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Now let's get into the negatives of maxxing out your masseter

TMJ

Torus Mandibularis

This is caused by masticatory stress

(patient getting Torus removed )

How can you hypertrophy your masseter ?
What would I recommend ?

Falim(Gum) and Chisel(product)

for falim start off 2 gums for 1 hour a day/week
chisel do 300 reps in sets of 30-50 one day/week

Do that for a month then do two days

Then another month three days your joints will get time to adjust


Don't fuck with jawzrsize the wide angle of opening your mouth increases risk of TMJ

(jfl)

However if this is all you have TMJ/TMD usually goes away in two weeks to a month and Torus can be surgically removed.
So no permanent drawbacks

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[Entschuldigung]

It's a huge high t sexy trait

i'm gonna start chewing

 

[Lawyer]

However for him to have a wider mouth he'd have to have a bigger masseter

Why?

 

[JackSparrow]

Good Thread

 

[JackSparrow]

Why?

Because it will stretch his mouth

 

[Deleted member 4053]

been using chisell and falim they are legit

I broke my chisell like five minutes ago fuck

 

[EllenJoy]

Just been chewing regular gum. I think this is good enough.

 

[godirl]

Falim(Gum) and Chisel(product)

Do regular chewing gum work? We have neither of those in my country

 

[Deleted member 1476]

been using chisell and falim they are legit

I broke my chisell like five minutes ago fuck

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Do regular chewing gum work? We have neither of those in my country

Not as a substitute for falim/mastic, no

 

[Deleted member 6217]

mirin

 

[godirl]

Not as a substitute for falim/mastic, no

What's a good substitute?

 

[Deleted member 6963]

Good post like always man

 

[imparatorluk]

As always, @Nosecel

 

[CursedOne]

masseter muscles plus jaw bones is unbeatable.

 

[Pinhead]

are there any non lens distorted B/As of chewing? never seem to see any

 

[Subhuman trash]

Just been chewing regular gum. I think this is good enough.

drink water with it so the gum gets hard

 

[JosephGarrot123]

masseter muscles are actually important my right jaw is much more defined than my left jaw

 

[Deleted member 3853]

Dn rd

 

[Deleted member 7747]

Hmmm I'm going to be a controversial cunt and disagree with you brother, and I'll tell you why.

I suffer from Bruxism, which refers to involuntary teeth grinding during sleep. Because of this, my masseter muscles are significantly large, and do not compliment my face shape.

Looking at the anatomy of the face, and disregarding trying to increase bigonial width, having enlarged masseters will hide the gonial angle of the mandible - also known as the corner of the jaw. Having a sharp, lean, and chiselled gonial angle is much more attractive than having an enlarged masseter muscle covering it, especially when looking at someone front-on. Having a chiselled gonial angle will be hidden by hypertrophic masseters when analysing the face from an anatomical perspective. That is why I atrophied my masseters with Botox, and placed dermal filler in my gonial angle to crisp up this area, widen my jaw, and increase the bigonial width of my face. This, to me, looks much more attractive. Plastic surgeons refer to this process as lateralisation, because you can start to see the lateral areas of the face, and creates more of a tapering aesthetic from the lateral to the medial parts of the face, which looks much more aesthetically pleasing because of the facial proportions being balanced.

I understand your theory though, and understand your point, but I think it's more focused on achieving a higher bigonial width than actually concerned with hypertrophic masseters. Having enlarged masseters creates a higher bigonial width, which is a positive, but this can be achieved in other ways. For me, adding filler to the corner of my jaw was completely overshadowed and hidden by my enlarged masseters. And these muscles looked bulky, thick, and solid, and gave my face a rougher triangular shape. It wasn't pretty. My face looks much leaner and chiselled now that I have atrophied these muscles.

But I understand where you're coming from my man.

 

[Chrono]

Im on my way

 

[Bewusst]

Masseter hypertrophy seems to have a bigger impact on side profile than front. At least for me

 

[Bewusst]

Hmmm I'm going to be a controversial cunt and disagree with you brother, and I'll tell you why.

I suffer from Bruxism, which refers to involuntary teeth grinding during sleep. Because of this, my masseter muscles are significantly large, and do not compliment my face shape.

Looking at the anatomy of the face, and disregarding trying to increase bigonial width, having enlarged masseters will hide the gonial angle of the mandible - also known as the corner of the jaw. Having a sharp, lean, and chiselled gonial angle is much more attractive than having an enlarged masseter muscle covering it, especially when looking at someone front-on. Having a chiselled gonial angle will be hidden by hypertrophic masseters when analysing the face from an anatomical perspective. That is why I atrophied my masseters with Botox, and placed dermal filler in my gonial angle to crisp up this area, widen my jaw, and increase the bigonial width of my face. This, to me, looks much more attractive. Plastic surgeons refer to this process as lateralisation, because you can start to see the lateral areas of the face, and creates more of a tapering aesthetic from the lateral to the medial parts of the face, which looks much more aesthetically pleasing because of the facial proportions being balanced.

I understand your theory though, and understand your point, but I think it's more focused on achieving a higher bigonial width than actually concerned with hypertrophic masseters. Having enlarged masseters creates a higher bigonial width, which is a positive, but this can be achieved in other ways. For me, adding filler to the corner of my jaw was completely overshadowed and hidden by my enlarged masseters. And these muscles looked bulky, thick, and solid, and gave my face a rougher triangular shape. It wasn't pretty. My face looks much leaner and chiselled now that I have atrophied these muscles.

But I understand where you're coming from my man.

Pm pics before and after Botox and after jawline contouring please

 

[NothingCanStopMe]

I can't do it unless i fix my TMJ issue.
And even then it may be a risk.
Fuck

 

[Deleted member 5052]

Masseter hypertrophy seems to have a bigger impact on side profile than front. At least for me

The ramus length changed??

 

[Bewusst]

The ramus length changed??

No, I always had a long ramus. But my lower jaw isn‘t melted into my neck anymore, like it had been a few years ago

 

[Celexawer]

No, I always had a long ramus. But my lower jaw isn‘t melted into my neck anymore, like it had been a few years ago

Nice to find you here homie xd

 

[Lev Peshkov]

@Britishlooksmaxxer

Found the next bully victim

 

[Deleted member 3323]

I dont even chew for masseter gains. I literally feel my bones (especially chekebones and brow ridge) ache like theyre moving like tectonic plates.

 

[delusionalretard]

What about neurotoxins in falim gum? Is the braindamage worh the face gains?

 

[yorker12]

What about neurotoxins in falim gum? Is the braindamage worh the face gains?

There's always mastic gum.

 

[Zias]

Hmmm I'm going to be a controversial cunt and disagree with you brother, and I'll tell you why.

I suffer from Bruxism, which refers to involuntary teeth grinding during sleep. Because of this, my masseter muscles are significantly large, and do not compliment my face shape.

Looking at the anatomy of the face, and disregarding trying to increase bigonial width, having enlarged masseters will hide the gonial angle of the mandible - also known as the corner of the jaw. Having a sharp, lean, and chiselled gonial angle is much more attractive than having an enlarged masseter muscle covering it, especially when looking at someone front-on. Having a chiselled gonial angle will be hidden by hypertrophic masseters when analysing the face from an anatomical perspective. That is why I atrophied my masseters with Botox, and placed dermal filler in my gonial angle to crisp up this area, widen my jaw, and increase the bigonial width of my face. This, to me, looks much more attractive. Plastic surgeons refer to this process as lateralisation, because you can start to see the lateral areas of the face, and creates more of a tapering aesthetic from the lateral to the medial parts of the face, which looks much more aesthetically pleasing because of the facial proportions being balanced.

I understand your theory though, and understand your point, but I think it's more focused on achieving a higher bigonial width than actually concerned with hypertrophic masseters. Having enlarged masseters creates a higher bigonial width, which is a positive, but this can be achieved in other ways. For me, adding filler to the corner of my jaw was completely overshadowed and hidden by my enlarged masseters. And these muscles looked bulky, thick, and solid, and gave my face a rougher triangular shape. It wasn't pretty. My face looks much leaner and chiselled now that I have atrophied these muscles.

But I understand where you're coming from my man.

Another ape suffering from bruxism chiming in. I second this post.

 

[patricknotstar]

Masseter muscles are one of the most important things that you can soft looksmax, by chewing to hypertrophy the masseter.

Just like any soft or hard looksmax it comes with pro's and con's

Gym can cause injuries
Surgeries can be botches
Moneymaxxing can stress you out and lower your looks

Pro's

The masseter is a huge muscle which not only allows you to get bigonial width (it's like increasing you bideltoid, but for your face), but also gives depth to your face as I'll show. However it also improves other ratio's on your face.

You see the musculature of the face is unique from the rest of the body. Whereas every muscle in your body connects to bone. Some muscles in your face actually connect to other muscles. For example the muscle surrounding the lips

View attachment 463074
Masculine Muscles in Blue Feminine in Pink
(credits to Buism)

Is directly influenced by the zygoma/maxilia bones and the masseter

+ Lip Width
View attachment 463231
Why would you want wider lips well it's one of the most dimorphic male features
View attachment 463084
View attachment 463081

Look how much he ascends with a wider mouth. However for him to have a wider mouth he'd have to have a bigger masseter
There's also this study on how a wider mouth is correlated with leadership

View attachment 463211
+ It defines cheekbones and gives your face depth

+ Forward Growth long term
(read PSA on Craniofacial Development)

Let's look at an extreme(this is like guys who are roided up and too muscular) example of unilateral masseter hypertrophy. These are good as you can compare the left and right side of the face

View attachment 463167

- Notice how the cheekbones and maxila on the right side are defined all the way down to the chin. This is because the skin is pulled back and gives the face a tighter look
- Look at how the lips on the right side are thinner and wider

Plus the width he gains although it's over kill in this case it's even wider than Brad Pitt's which is overkill for black men. The only reason why Brad Pitt gets away with it is because white + blonde = most feminine phenotype. So his jaw balances it out

View attachment 463176
(while Brad Pit's Jaw is very wide his zygomatic breadth isn't)

BONUS

If you had ate hard foods from a young age you would've had a better maxilla and higher cheekbones. You can still get some changes as an adult, but the changes are probably much slower

Relationship between masseter muscle size and maxillary morphology - PubMed

The aim of this study was to investigate the relationship between masseter muscle size and craniofacial morphology, focusing on the maxilla. Twenty-four patients (11 males and 13 females; mean age 27.6 ± 5.6 years) underwent cephalometric analyses. Ultrasonography was used to measure the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Now let's get into the negatives of maxxing out your masseter

TMJ

View attachment 463191

Torus Mandibularis

This is caused by masticatory stress

View attachment 463196
(patient getting Torus removed )

How can you hypertrophy your masseter ?
What would I recommend ?

Falim(Gum) and Chisel(product)

for falim start off 2 gums for 1 hour a day/week
chisel do 300 reps in sets of 30-50 one day/week

Do that for a month then do two days

Then another month three days your joints will get time to adjust


Don't fuck with jawzrsize the wide angle of opening your mouth increases risk of TMJ

View attachment 463586
(jfl)

However if this is all you have TMJ/TMD usually goes away in two weeks to a month and Torus can be surgically removed.
So no permanent drawbacks

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Chisel is fucking retarded, your supposed to chew with ur back teeth

 

[datboijj]

nah

 

[Deleted member 10602]

Another ape suffering from bruxism chiming in. I second this post.

nigga moment why bump this?

 

[itorroella9]

"just chew bro big masseters can't be a failo"

 

[Zias]

nigga moment why bump this?

Cause my information is very valuable motherfucker. Many braincels here think masseter muscles plus jaw bones is unbeatable but on the contrary, it's unaesthetic as fuck. Getting rid of masseter hyperthrophy with botox + filler is the play.

 

[Soalian]

Cause my information is very valuable motherfucker. Many braincels here think masseter muscles plus jaw bones is unbeatable but on the contrary, it's unaesthetic as fuck. Getting rid of masseter hyperthrophy with botox + filler is the play.

What if you have the right guy's facial bone structure?

 

[randomvanish]

Masseter muscles are one of the most important things that you can soft looksmax, by chewing to hypertrophy the masseter.

Just like any soft or hard looksmax it comes with pro's and con's

Gym can cause injuries
Surgeries can be botches
Moneymaxxing can stress you out and lower your looks

Pro's

The masseter is a huge muscle which not only allows you to get bigonial width (it's like increasing you bideltoid, but for your face), but also gives depth to your face as I'll show. However it also improves other ratio's on your face.

You see the musculature of the face is unique from the rest of the body. Whereas every muscle in your body connects to bone. Some muscles in your face actually connect to other muscles. For example the muscle surrounding the lips

View attachment 463074
Masculine Muscles in Blue Feminine in Pink
(credits to Buism)

Is directly influenced by the zygoma/maxilia bones and the masseter

+ Lip Width
View attachment 463231
Why would you want wider lips well it's one of the most dimorphic male features
View attachment 463084
View attachment 463081

Look how much he ascends with a wider mouth. However for him to have a wider mouth he'd have to have a bigger masseter
There's also this study on how a wider mouth is correlated with leadership

View attachment 463211
+ It defines cheekbones and gives your face depth

+ Forward Growth long term
(read PSA on Craniofacial Development)

Let's look at an extreme(this is like guys who are roided up and too muscular) example of unilateral masseter hypertrophy. These are good as you can compare the left and right side of the face

View attachment 463167

- Notice how the cheekbones and maxila on the right side are defined all the way down to the chin. This is because the skin is pulled back and gives the face a tighter look
- Look at how the lips on the right side are thinner and wider

Plus the width he gains although it's over kill in this case it's even wider than Brad Pitt's which is overkill for black men. The only reason why Brad Pitt gets away with it is because white + blonde = most feminine phenotype. So his jaw balances it out

View attachment 463176
(while Brad Pit's Jaw is very wide his zygomatic breadth isn't)

BONUS

If you had ate hard foods from a young age you would've had a better maxilla and higher cheekbones. You can still get some changes as an adult, but the changes are probably much slower

Relationship between masseter muscle size and maxillary morphology - PubMed

The aim of this study was to investigate the relationship between masseter muscle size and craniofacial morphology, focusing on the maxilla. Twenty-four patients (11 males and 13 females; mean age 27.6 ± 5.6 years) underwent cephalometric analyses. Ultrasonography was used to measure the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Now let's get into the negatives of maxxing out your masseter

TMJ

View attachment 463191

Torus Mandibularis

This is caused by masticatory stress

View attachment 463196
(patient getting Torus removed )

How can you hypertrophy your masseter ?
What would I recommend ?

Falim(Gum) and Chisel(product)

for falim start off 2 gums for 1 hour a day/week
chisel do 300 reps in sets of 30-50 one day/week

Do that for a month then do two days

Then another month three days your joints will get time to adjust


Don't fuck with jawzrsize the wide angle of opening your mouth increases risk of TMJ

View attachment 463586
(jfl)

However if this is all you have TMJ/TMD usually goes away in two weeks to a month and Torus can be surgically removed.
So no permanent drawbacks

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cope thread

 

[Soalian]

cope thread

Highly depends on the individual for aesthetic results IMO.

 

[MisterMercedes]

Johnny Depp has a wide big onion yet narrow mouth. This is because lip width is determined by width of the palate, not bigonial width:

Also has the opposite of the pretty boy coloring you were talking about.

Narrow mouth (within reason) is aesthetically ideal and a pretty boy trait.

Ideal mouth width is such that a line drawn down from the medial canthi falls slightly within the oral commissure:

Wide nose is also masculine and associated with competence/ability. Doesn’t mean it’s attractive.

 

[Zias]

What if you have the right guy's facial bone structure?

View attachment 1012410

Looks like the right guys his jaw width is less than 90% of face width which is desirable. Around 90% is ideal. Plus I can see his jaw muscles aren't developed that much.

If he got more developed masseter muscles it would look unaesthetic for reasons I quoted above. It would make your jaw very round and not chiseled.
If he hypothetically has a brother with even wider jaw bones however, it would look even more aesthetic imo.

Just my 2 cents. Look at my first thread if you want to see how overdeveloped masseter muscles aren't shit you want to have.

 

[Soalian]

Looks like the right guys his jaw width is less than 90% of face width which is desirable. Around 90% is ideal. Plus I can see his jaw muscles aren't developed that much.

If he got more developed masseter muscles it would look unaesthetic for reasons I quoted above. It would make your jaw very round and not chiseled.
If he hypothetically has a brother with even wider jaw bones however, it would look even more aesthetic imo.

Just my 2 cents. Look at my first thread if you want to see how overdeveloped masseter muscles aren't shit you want to have.

What thread are you referring to?

 

[Zias]

What thread are you referring to?

"rate my eye area" its my first post

 

[Deleted member 12611]

Chewing gave me hollow cheeks.

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

As I see, the faggots in my school that have gum in their mouth all the time %99 has a good forward growth too.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

Brethern, don't CHEW!

I spoilt my face with this shit, now have to do botox every 4 months. It literally is MUSCLE. IT IS ROUND.

And it is SHIT aesthetically.

If you do not have any jaw, do fucking fillers or operation. This gives you TRUE definition.

Masseters is cope. YOu will see, when you chew enough.

 

[sanchez451]

Brethern, don't CHEW!

I spoilt my face with this shit, now have to do botox every 4 months. It literally is MUSCLE. IT IS ROUND.

And it is SHIT aesthetically.

If you do not have any jaw, do fucking fillers or operation. This gives you TRUE definition.

Masseters is cope. YOu will see, when you chew enough.

What’s your body fat percentage?

 

[Deleted member 16380]

What’s your body fat percentage?

12-13%. Was 10% same shit.

Now I get Botox for masseters, and my back zygo prominence popped out. Now waiting for results after an additional dose.

 

[sanchez451]

12-13%. Was 10% same shit.

Now I get Botox for masseters, and my back zygo prominence popped out. Now waiting for results after an additional dose.

I see. Well from what I’ve seen large masseters can look good at low bf, but make you look bloated at higher percentages. Are you sure you were that lean? Most people underestimate their body fat. At 10% you’d have defined abs and lots of vascularity