“B-b-b-but body doesn’t attract women!!!”

6,1 with 6,6 wingspan and a 2* shoulder to waist tuning in (16 btw )
 
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true plus he’s wearing like 2” inch boosted shoes in the pci

david is more aesthetically pleasing than that dude.
here you can see them in motion(32:20ish if timecode doesnt work). the other dude is about 80 lbs heavier and 4 inches shorter

 
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It’s just really ironic to me how someone can be blackpilled and believe in plastic surgery but pussies out about roids and copes with natural lifting! JFL
jfl there's so many things wrong with this sentence
 
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jfl there's so many things wrong with this sentence

jfl how can people be this retarded.. David Laid is 190 lbs. Height:6'2.BF;10-12%. This is achievable as FUCK, especially for someone his height.

"mUSt RoID, mUsT AtRopHy teStiClEs, DAVID LAID ISNT NATTY"
 
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jfl how can people be this retarded.. David Laid is 190 lbs. Height:6'2.BF;10-12%. This is achievable as FUCK, especially for someone his height.

"mUSt RoID, mUsT AtRopHy teStiClEs, DAVID LAID ISNT NATTY"
they're just low iq and coping

they are willing to accept people's faces differ to the point they don't even look the same specie

but they arent going to accept your frame/insertions/response to training etc. differes just the same way. some people will never look aesthetic even with steroids and some others are BORN aesthetic. they just increased the size of the muscle they're born with. thats all gymcelling is, increasing the size of the muscles

if u have badly shaped muscles with shit instertions steroids will make them bigger but they wont change the shape therefore you will still look shit

people can't make the association and see it through that its just as unfair in bodybuilding as it is when it comes to the face
 
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jfl there's so many things wrong with this sentence
Well English is not my first language.
But what I meant is that how can someone who is blackpilled like yourself and would believe in extreme measures like plastic surgery to become good looking but won’t believe in steroids and think lifting is all about genetics and that steroids are too extreme and won’t help.

But I understand what ur doing. Ur trying to discredit me by making fun of something I said to make me look low IQ and prove ur point and “win“

as I said it’s not about winning for me it’s about educating people who are looking for real knowledge.

“I kNoW eVerThiNg aBouT fiTNess in 1 YeAr” lmao did you hear yourself kiddo?!
 
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“I kNoW eVerThiNg aBouT fiTNess in 1 YeAr” lmao did you hear yourself kiddo?!
yes i did son. i iq mog you to death and have a better understanding of fitness than you'll ever have of which i acquired within 1.5 years
 
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once again you can keep projecting i dont have gyno

estrogenic hips ass
???
You wouldn't be trying to avoid this mog battle if you didn't have something to hide.

We both know you are a skinny fat, narrow indian with gyno titties who has been lifting for a few months & fantasizes about being the next zyzz.

Unfortunately it's impossible for pajeets to gain muscle naturally so this dream will never come to be.
 
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???
You wouldn't be trying to avoid this mog battle if you didn't have something to hide.

We both know you are a skinny fat, narrow indian with gyno titties who has been lifting for a few months & fantasizes about being the next zyzz.

Unfortunately it's impossible for pajeets to gain muscle naturally so this dream will never come to be.
couldnt be projecting more even if you wrote it on the batman signal light you fucking 4 inch long nosed nerdic virgin.

not skinny fat. not narrow.
not gyno,
will mog zyzz phsyique .

defo possible to build muscle.
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muh mog battle me bro lets see who has better phsyique why you avoid brah.

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cope like the pope that your shoulders are more narrow than my ribcage you estrogenic gynecoid subhuman.
 
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yes i did son. i iq mog you to death and have a better understanding of fitness than you'll ever have of which i acquired within 1.5 years
You know what ok. Keep going HARD in the gym Bro.
Whatever keeps you busy from roping kiddo lol
 
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You know ok. Keep going HARD in the gym Bro.
Whatever keeps you busy from roping kiddo lol
if only u knew son. i have genetics you can only dream of
 
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they're just low iq and coping

they are willing to accept people's faces differ to the point they don't even look the same specie

but they arent going to accept your frame/insertions/response to training etc. differes just the same way. some people will never look aesthetic even with steroids and some others are BORN aesthetic. they just increased the size of the muscle they're born with. thats all gymcelling is, increasing the size of the muscles

if u have badly shaped muscles with shit instertions steroids will make them bigger but they wont change the shape therefore you will still look shit

people can't make the association and see it through that its just as unfair in bodybuilding as it is when it comes to the face
my theory is when you build a new body, you are essentially becoming a different person (as far as seeing what you will look like). you will see what genetics you will have. it’s like an ugly guy being mad because his genes are shit, only difference is the ugly guy had no choice (u have no say in being born or not) and with gym copers, you put hours and hours into the gym, make meals, devout your life to it and you still end up shitty. so ofc they will cope like their lives depend on it because it’s an attack on the deepest level, insulting to their genes (i.e ancestors, parents, their whole life).
 
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ok ur the “expert” but let me know what your credentials are
How many years you have been an athlete?
How many years you have been lifting?
Have you ever diet down for the stage or helped someone to?
Have you ever made a meal plan for someone?
Have you ever been a personal trainer and dramatically improved someone’s BMI?

I did all that and more.

So just shut the fuck up “man” and stick to your bro science.
I’m quoting you as a man cuz u sound like a bitch giving reasons on how you “feel” I’m wrong rather than providing a logical and scientific reason like I did.
Yes genetic play a big part fuck face and I saw people who took steroids and still looked like shit.
But at the same time you can’t be very lean like David Laid and have mass without roids cuz you will be weak asf.
If you’re within 25bmi at 7-8% bodyfat it’s naturally achievable ...common consensus by specialists in the field

Most roid users never even come close to those numbers
 
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couldnt be projecting more even if you wrote it on the batman signal light you fucking 4 inch long nosed nerdic virgin.

not skinny fat. not narrow.
not gyno,
will mog zyzz phsyique .

defo possible to build muscle.
"
muh mog battle me bro lets see who has better phsyique why you avoid brah.

"
cope like the pope that your shoulders are more narrow than my ribcage you estrogenic gynecoid subhuman.
:feelskek:
 
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If you’re within 25bmi at 7-8% bodyfat it’s naturally achievable ...common consensus by specialists in the field

Most roid users never even come close to those numbers
Hey maybe but I have not seen it.
And I agree with @cocainecowboy some people would never look that good even with roids.
But they do help a lot in losing fat and maintain muscle mass that’s all what I was trying to say.
 
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The average natural limit for a man in his 30's who trains for at least a decade consistently

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If someone has good genetics, they can be even better. Especially if they started training younger and hit the 10 year mark before 30 years old.
 
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Surprising lack of impressive natty physiques being posted itt for the amount of natural bodybuilding experts that are here right now.

Really makes u think.
 
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Lol at not maxing your body, if you don't kys srs
 
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Surprising lack of impressive natty physiques being posted itt for the amount of natural bodybuilding experts that are here right now.

Really makes u think.
Surprising lack of impressive natty physiques being posted itt for the amount of natural bodybuilding experts that are here right now.

Really makes u think.

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You & cocainecowboy : lalalala I'm not listening, the reality of the situation is too uncomfortable for me to accept right now, but deep down I know you are right.

Tbh if believing that David Laid is natty motivates you to get in the gym & get a healthy lean physique, then it's probably a good thing/
 
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You & cocainecowboy : lalalala I'm not listening, the reality of the situation is too uncomfortable for me to accept right now, but deep down I know you are right.

Tbh if believing that David Laid is natty motivates you to get in the gym & get a healthy lean physique, then it's probably a good thing/
I’m not saying David Laid is natty, he probably has used some juice in his career.

I believe if you have very good muscle inserts and genes, you can get near his body
 
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I’m not saying David Laid is natty, he probably has used some juice in his career.

I believe if you have very good muscle inserts and genes, you can get near his body
Nothing wrong with being natty, but why limit yourself? You can still get to David Laid's physique naturally (not that much muscle, just an awesome bone structure), but why not go even further?
 
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Nothing wrong with being natty, but why limit yourself? You can still get to David Laid's physique naturally (not that much muscle, just an awesome bone structure), but why not go even further?
bc i don’t wanna risk losing my hair and i want to look aesthetically pleasing, as well as functional
 
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bc i don’t wanna risk losing my hair and i want to look aesthetically pleasing, as well as functional
Fair call, I use shit for my hair, think I'm safe (only use LGD and Osta anyway).
 
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Why are we even wasting our breath? This is what these skinny copers all look like LMFAO.

Skinny copers


@cocainecowboy
@PrettyBoyMaxxing
 
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the same girls u get with body are the same girls u get without the body.
 
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Surprising lack of impressive natty physiques being posted itt for the amount of natural bodybuilding experts that are here right now.

Really makes u think.
Yeah makes u think..maybe people don't like you or care to show u any pics..

Yet they're still nice enough to try and help you out of your delusions
 
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Yeah and quit for 2 years, lost my gains, then got back into it.

Your point?
that you have dogshit genetics and you flame natty gymcelling out of anger and think everyone is on steroids

its a cope in your brain
 
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that you have dogshit genetics and you flame natty gymcelling out of anger and think everyone is on steroids

its a cope in your brain
I have average genetics and you will never look anywhere close to what you think you are going to look like.

You are just lashing out at me rn because the truth hurts.
 
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I have average genetics and you will never look anywhere close to what you think you are going to look like.

You are just lashing out at me rn because the truth hurts.
it doesn't hurt bc. u have 0 credibility mate
 
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Because I don't look like David Laid? Lol

Wait is this you?

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yes as i said in that comment it's 1 year progress, with 0 lifting experience beforehand so no muscle-memory shenanigans

you're talking like i'm finished and this is THE "natty physique" i'm trying to present as counterargument lol

or what is your argument even? cuz its clearly very good progress for being natural
 
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yes as i said in that comment it's 1 year progress, with 0 lifting experience beforehand so no muscle-memory shenanigans

you're talking like i'm finished and this is THE "natty physique" i'm trying to present as counterargument lol

or what is your argument even? cuz its clearly very good progress for being natural
No, no it isn't and I'm sorry to break it to you but you have gynecomastia.
 
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No, no it isn't and I'm sorry to break it to you but you have gynecomastia.
yes it is 1 year progress. i dont have gynocomaestia, i come from obese background 2 years ago and all fat on me is residue from that. For gyno you need enlarged gladular tissue and I don't have that

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i have the right one. all fat/obese people have it. it goes away once im low bf%
 
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@PrettyBoyMaxxing
@KEy21
That was 3 months of muscle gain while losing body fat %
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Now let's see your physique pics.

yes it is 1 year progress. i dont have gynocomaestia, i come from obese background 2 years ago and all fat on me is residue from that. For gyno you need enlarged gladular tissue and I don't have that

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i have the right one. all fat/obese people have it. it goes away once im low bf%
Hopefully that is the case.
 
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@KEy21
That was 3 months of natural muscle gain while losing body fat %
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Now let's see your physique pics.


Hopefully that is the case.
That's what happens when you gain muscle and then drop bodyfat...So how is everything cope if u look above average in the second pic??

It's clear your genetics are shit...But what is the point in this thread if you're showing results u made??

Most people bloatmax far beyond a weight that they can look good at naturally...It's their ignorance that stops them...
 
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That's what happens when you gain muscle and then drop bodyfat...So how is everything cope if u look above average in the second pic??

It's clear your genetics are shit...But what is the point in this thread if you're showing results u made??

Most people bloatmax far beyond a weight that they can look good at naturally...It's their ignorance that stops them...
Post physique.
 
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Okay add me on disord nd I'll show u...I mog the absolute shit out of both pics lol
You should mog it, that is 3 months of muscle gain, and it is not an unimpressive amount of mass to put on in that time period.
Pm me.
 
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