How much advancement did you get between the genio and the implant? I've heard that you can't really go past 5mm on the implant portion of that combination surgery or else you put too much pressure on the implant and it becomes prone to shifting/erosion.
ya but I also had OBO which augmented that
I don't think titbots surgery was necessary tbh
Yeah. All he really needed was a lower lid retraction in one eye and better eyebrows and eyelashes as well as color contacts. Nigga got orbital decompression instead just because some high IQ blackpillers over here told him too. Same thing happened to tyrion. He only really needed a genio or chin implant but if he was still intent on getting bimax, he should have been more conservative with his movements. Surgery to become chad doesn't exist. But it is still legit for making minor improvements. I say, if you are not deformed, stick to less extreme surgeries to iron out any imperfections and then do every single softmax there is.
I am willing to bet that a lot of the people here considering bimax won't really benefit from it. I'd say it is one of the surgeries this forum is the most delusional about. Barely, anybody here has jaws that are deformed to the point that bimax would give them a huge improvement.
You just didn’t get the right implants or right implant shapes. That’s on you. I’m getting midface implants which I am designing myself alongside eppley. So much thought has gone into what the shape should be to look natural. I would NEVER just get basic non custom implants placed by some random surgeon.
I can’t wait to hear how it goes for you after. Don’t speak too soon. Pride before the fall.
Cosmicmaxxer how is your life now you have ascended so to speak?
You gotta keep in mind that he got 600k of plastic surgery. Don't expect an unbiased response lol.
Anything can go wrong. Even with lots of planning, there is still a lot even the best surgeons can't predict. I am not against surgery to improve your looks. Heck, I am probs going to a couple to fix my flaws (even something as invasive as bimax if I am the right candidate for it) but I know there is always a risk.
Regarding Pros/Cons of Surgeries:
ay bro im naturalk
He makes some great points. People here, especially those who plan to get every surgery under the sun, should listen to him. A lot of users have delusional expectations regarding surgeries.
on a good note , I love my aesthetic result. It made my whole skull taller
yes but i didn't put it in again cuz would just be the same crap show all over , the genio is good enough although def looked nicer with implant but i'm also getting bimax
Who was your surgeon?
Man I’d absolutely love to but I will never risk getting doxxed for the sake of making a point. I’ll definitely post about it after. Biggest concern will be that they are too big which in that case is an easy fix. Basically my situation is having a very recessed flat midface. I’m going to be adding volume there which should give more “life” to my face. I know for a fact more volume there would make me look better it’s just a matter of keeping it natural looking
Thank you!
IMO, legs/torso ratio shouldn't exceed one SD above mean. This long-legged aesthetic is a good thing, but too much beyond that and it just doesn't look good. And wingspan should be very close to height.
Brutal
Only ascension I have ever seenHello
I’m long time lurker of psl. Years. I have seen the thread by @CosmicMaxxer and that lead me to making my own experience with surgeries.
I have done so many surgeries also. Maybe 12 or more years. LL twice including multiple corrections and surgeries Achilles etc (6cm total), custom full facial implant surgery twice, rhino twice, otoplasty twice, voice surgery (fat injection- nothing happened), genio, first chin implant, ht twice scalp and eyebrow.
Notice most of these had to be done twice. Some will need third. That’s the first thing. There’s nearly always a fuck up. Or a revision needed. Surgeries don’t really work like you think. There’s always some issue.
Second, surgeons are full of shit. They’ll promise all and go along with it al and will fall short. Then no more help once done.
Third, Big one. There’s is no such thing as an ascension to Chad or slayer through surgery. Show me one. There’s none. Pipe dream. Sorry. You’ll get minor improvements at best with any surgery even radical. And I argue the trade off is not worth the effort at all.
So, a lot of young people here just posting for fun which is great. But anyone here like I was years ago thinking this will change your life and be some kind of sex god. FORGET IT! (Username) won’t happen.
The wasted time all those years. Saving for surgeries makes you a hermit loser. Bad results and hiding after makes you a hermit loser. I am tragically too old now even if all went very well. Not worth it. I missed out.
And the trauma of all the surgeries. Probably 10-12+ Very long duration general anaesthesia. Body wrecked. Family worried all those years. Money. Brutal recoveries. Pain. Actual suffering. It’s rough. It has damaged me mentally no doubt.
the final result. I am not that much better looking or higher smv than the start. Also older now. Not worth it.
Obviously I won’t be sharing details and pics. But I have done all. Don’t want to be a meme on top of being a waste.
Anyway why share. Other account other day I am interested to hear what he thinks too. But it is not me trying to save the world. The reason I am sharing this is tragically. When you do these surgeries. When you research like crazy and know all kinds of terms and ideals etc. It doesn’t matter. When you have a problem. Outcome gone wrong etc. (Which IT WILL) then everyone will see you as the crazy deranged obsessed dysmorphic vain perfectionist idiot. And it will be seen as YOUR fault. Even when you do all right as a patient. Disaster. The shame of it all. The Shame of recovery is brutal, shame of looking “operated on” is brutal but nothing compares to when it goes wrong and all the objective reasoning in the world can’t communicate to people other than “you crazy vain fool”
so at least here people get it. Understand the attempts to ascend and goals etc.
but my warning as someone who has been through most of it. Forget it. It’s not “over” Blackpill ldar. But the surgeries are not worth it at all. Will ruin your life.
soft maxxes, being nt and social and accepting your looks match and rejections are better. Make small changes.
The reality is, even if you became Chad (which there is not one case of happening btw) even then, you’re still a fraud. Have to deal with that personally and with any future partner. And your genes will still be there for your kids.
Can’t fool nature.
hope you enjoyed the read and all. That’s my advice. Good luck to all trolls etc I won’t interact.
You're a straight up prick if you come in here dismissing something without a shred of evidence. "MuH PrIvAcY". That's the cost of making claims that dismiss the one shred of hope a lot of these users have. Either make your claims with photographic evidence, or don't waste our time with this trashHello
I’m long time lurker of psl. Years. I have seen the thread by @CosmicMaxxer and that lead me to making my own experience with surgeries.
I have done so many surgeries also. Maybe 12 or more years. LL twice including multiple corrections and surgeries Achilles etc (6cm total), custom full facial implant surgery twice, rhino twice, otoplasty twice, voice surgery (fat injection- nothing happened), genio, first chin implant, ht twice scalp and eyebrow.
Notice most of these had to be done twice. Some will need third. That’s the first thing. There’s nearly always a fuck up. Or a revision needed. Surgeries don’t really work like you think. There’s always some issue.
Second, surgeons are full of shit. They’ll promise all and go along with it al and will fall short. Then no more help once done.
Third, Big one. There’s is no such thing as an ascension to Chad or slayer through surgery. Show me one. There’s none. Pipe dream. Sorry. You’ll get minor improvements at best with any surgery even radical. And I argue the trade off is not worth the effort at all.
So, a lot of young people here just posting for fun which is great. But anyone here like I was years ago thinking this will change your life and be some kind of sex god. FORGET IT! (Username
The wasted time all those years. Saving for surgeries makes you a hermit loser. Bad results and hiding after makes you a hermit loser. I am tragically too old now even if all went very well. Not worth it. I missed out.
And the trauma of all the surgeries. Probably 10-12+ Very long duration general anaesthesia. Body wrecked. Family worried all those years. Money. Brutal recoveries. Pain. Actual suffering. It’s rough. It has damaged me mentally no doubt.
the final result. I am not that much better looking or higher smv than the start. Also older now. Not worth it.
Obviously I won’t be sharing details and pics. But I have done all. Don’t want to be a meme on top of being a waste.
Anyway why share. Other account other day I am interested to hear what he thinks too. But it is not me trying to save the world. The reason I am sharing this is tragically. When you do these surgeries. When you research like crazy and know all kinds of terms and ideals etc. It doesn’t matter. When you have a problem. Outcome gone wrong etc. (Which IT WILL) then everyone will see you as the crazy deranged obsessed dysmorphic vain perfectionist idiot. And it will be seen as YOUR fault. Even when you do all right as a patient. Disaster. The shame of it all. The Shame of recovery is brutal, shame of looking “operated on” is brutal but nothing compares to when it goes wrong and all the objective reasoning in the world can’t communicate to people other than “you crazy vain fool”
so at least here people get it. Understand the attempts to ascend and goals etc.
but my warning as someone who has been through most of it. Forget it. It’s not “over” Blackpill ldar. But the surgeries are not worth it at all. Will ruin your life.
soft maxxes, being nt and social and accepting your looks match and rejections are better. Make small changes.
The reality is, even if you became Chad (which there is not one case of happening btw) even then, you’re still a fraud. Have to deal with that personally and with any future partner. And your genes will still be there for your kids.
Can’t fool nature.
hope you enjoyed the read and all. That’s my advice. Good luck to all trolls etc I won’t interact.
Only legit surgery is height. Get LL to 6'3 and you'll ascend with 4/10 faceHello
I’m long time lurker of psl. Years. I have seen the thread by @CosmicMaxxer and that lead me to making my own experience with surgeries.
I have done so many surgeries also. Maybe 12 or more years. LL twice including multiple corrections and surgeries Achilles etc (6cm total), custom full facial implant surgery twice, rhino twice, otoplasty twice, voice surgery (fat injection- nothing happened), genio, first chin implant, ht twice scalp and eyebrow.
Notice most of these had to be done twice. Some will need third. That’s the first thing. There’s nearly always a fuck up. Or a revision needed. Surgeries don’t really work like you think. There’s always some issue.
Second, surgeons are full of shit. They’ll promise all and go along with it al and will fall short. Then no more help once done.
Third, Big one. There’s is no such thing as an ascension to Chad or slayer through surgery. Show me one. There’s none. Pipe dream. Sorry. You’ll get minor improvements at best with any surgery even radical. And I argue the trade off is not worth the effort at all.
So, a lot of young people here just posting for fun which is great. But anyone here like I was years ago thinking this will change your life and be some kind of sex god. FORGET IT! (Username
The wasted time all those years. Saving for surgeries makes you a hermit loser. Bad results and hiding after makes you a hermit loser. I am tragically too old now even if all went very well. Not worth it. I missed out.
And the trauma of all the surgeries. Probably 10-12+ Very long duration general anaesthesia. Body wrecked. Family worried all those years. Money. Brutal recoveries. Pain. Actual suffering. It’s rough. It has damaged me mentally no doubt.
the final result. I am not that much better looking or higher smv than the start. Also older now. Not worth it.
Obviously I won’t be sharing details and pics. But I have done all. Don’t want to be a meme on top of being a waste.
Anyway why share. Other account other day I am interested to hear what he thinks too. But it is not me trying to save the world. The reason I am sharing this is tragically. When you do these surgeries. When you research like crazy and know all kinds of terms and ideals etc. It doesn’t matter. When you have a problem. Outcome gone wrong etc. (Which IT WILL) then everyone will see you as the crazy deranged obsessed dysmorphic vain perfectionist idiot. And it will be seen as YOUR fault. Even when you do all right as a patient. Disaster. The shame of it all. The Shame of recovery is brutal, shame of looking “operated on” is brutal but nothing compares to when it goes wrong and all the objective reasoning in the world can’t communicate to people other than “you crazy vain fool”
so at least here people get it. Understand the attempts to ascend and goals etc.
but my warning as someone who has been through most of it. Forget it. It’s not “over” Blackpill ldar. But the surgeries are not worth it at all. Will ruin your life.
soft maxxes, being nt and social and accepting your looks match and rejections are better. Make small changes.
The reality is, even if you became Chad (which there is not one case of happening btw) even then, you’re still a fraud. Have to deal with that personally and with any future partner. And your genes will still be there for your kids.
Can’t fool nature.
hope you enjoyed the read and all. That’s my advice. Good luck to all trolls etc I won’t interact.
I hope the right is before
do you consider custom infraorbital rim implants extreme and unsafe?
Less likely to make you look uncanny than other eye related work.
I respect you sharing your opinion. I can say from my own experience that I had cosmetic surgery and I have enjoyed the results. Many others have had the same experience.
I’m glad to hear it. I wish I did. I hope you can all enjoy life now and move on.
The mistake people make is when they already have a trait that is average or even good and they try and get surgery to make this trait mogger tier or some shit
Why do people on this site including me keep repeating this shit lol? We have all known this for a while but I guess we have a tendency to overthink.
I don’t think it has evolved really tbh. I’ve been around to read all the “latest” new golden nugget procedures and processes. From custom implants and bone cements to forward maxilla lefort to bimax to ior implants. You name it. So many different phases where the crowd think the latest thing is the answer. It’s not. It’s just not. Or this latest surgeon is the real deal and the others are bad etc. that’s also not the case I believe. Most surgeons and results are underwhelming at best. Disaster at worst. It’s just not worth it.Did you even softmax your skin or improved your diet, your bloating, your lifestyle, your day to day plans, your mental state. Those are the things you are supposed to deal with before even getting appointments with surgeons imo.
What you think you can just go under a knife and not do anything else. It’s called soft maxxing and then hardmaxing for a reason.
Also 3D surgery planning is developing actively
I suppose over the 12 years since this started, the road to looksmaxing have evolved through trial and error, observation, and general time just talking about it all.
Thank you for your sacrifices soldier
Even then I don’t even think surgery is good for fixing failos unless it is an actually look-twice at someone deformity.
what about increasing chin height via compensating your bite with braces (wouldnt make a big difference but 2-3mm is not insignificant)
I don’t think those are worth it honestly. If something is a tiny gain why bother. It won’t be that much of a change.
true, you are the most high iq user on here since @Lagrange deleted his acc
I have seen your pics and a few treads you have put. Especially implants are terrible ones. You’re right. They are. I have many.true, you are the most high iq user on here since @Lagrange deleted his acc
my failos are unfixable expect of height. I think of LL, Im saving money rn so maybe i will get it in 3-5 years. I will see.
I think I read you are 5’8?
Did you start doing all this to try get girls? How has the experience been? I don't think it's fair to say that surgeries will ruin your life, but not knowing when to stop, developing an obsession and getting more than needed and putting your life on hold just to keep getting surgeries (like Real Surgerymaxx said) seems pretty brutal. Hope you are doing okay man. But what is it that keep making you get more 12-13 years after you first started?
Yes I wanted to be super good looking to get a lot of women. And general Hall effect and validation. It did not work at all. I was much better looking before any surgeries. I was doing ok with women. But my delusion said I could become someone who can get any woman any where any time. Which is delusional. In general anyway (we don’t see that happening) and delusional that I honestly thought drs could get the result of a photoshop etc with no change to soft tissues and all in harmony. I was very very wrong. It has ruined my life. And surgery is simply not worth it. Any level. Any procedure. Unless actually deformed.
